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Is Canberra Crime Getting worse?

By sunshine 4 April 2009 51

A question to ponder.

Is Canberra crime getting worse or is the media reporting more violent crimes more often?

Or are drugs getting more out of control…..etc… What are people’s ideas/thoughts on this?


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Thumper 7:54 am 06 Apr 09

Yep, I tripped over at least three murder victims this morning just getting to my car.

I lost count how many were laying in the street outside work…

Clown Killer 10:20 pm 05 Apr 09

“Nowadays we seem to have a murder a week here in Canberra – we probably don’t but it seems that way”

You must be completely paranoid because that is total bullshit

Whatever.

Deadmandrinking 8:12 pm 05 Apr 09

vg said :

“Also in the US, they have a tendency to arm their poor by putting gun-stores in and near every dodgy area in the country. That doesn’t help anyone.”

How do poor people afford guns then?

Oh, they can’t, because nobody in poor and dodgy areas acquires money through any channels bar legal ones, no sireee.

Also, the middle-classes who live near dodgy areas tend to stock up on guns to protect their homes, being paranoid thanks to fox news covering every crime that happens anywhere in the country 24/7. This leads to frequent gun deaths in the home.

Legal guns are a bad idea. They’re designed to kill and will do just that.

Thumper 7:17 pm 05 Apr 09

Also in the US, they have a tendency to arm their poor by putting gun-stores in and near every dodgy area in the country

Huh?

DJ 6:47 pm 05 Apr 09

vg said :

3 places not to buy

Kambah
Charnwood
Oaks Estate

Add Florey…

Fisho 6:40 pm 05 Apr 09

Deadmandrinking said :

Fisho, the gun crime in the UK is nowhere near what it is in the US. In fact, I think the UK’s crime rate overall is about the same as ours. I know where you’re sourcing this idea too. The NRA was squawking about Australia and the UK’s crime rates being higher overall than the US’. The UK and Australia had higher assaults and burglaries and that kind of thing, however the US had a much, much larger homicide rate.

The other thing to remember is that australia has not had a mass shooting in the likes of port arthur/strathfield/hoddle st, since the introduction of the gun laws, which prevent homeowners from having semi-automatic weapons like the ones used in those killings. The US had one last week. I know it’s a big country, but still, it’s beginning to seem like there’s one every month there.

Also in the US, they have a tendency to arm their poor by putting gun-stores in and near every dodgy area in the country. That doesn’t help anyone.

In regards to Canberra crime – it’s probably ‘getting worse’, but only due to the fact that Canberra is getting bigger. To a lot of long-term residents, it would seem like a bad thing, but really, if there’s more crime because there’s more people, you’re not drastically more likely to be affected.

No my comments were not based on NRA data. The UK/US gun crime ratio misses the point, the point was that there is little correlation between rates of gun ownership and rates of gun crime globally. Some places where gun ownership is mandatory/high experience low rates of violent/gun crime.

The supposed removal of semi-automatic guns in this country was nothing to do with reducing gun related crime. Even the people that introduced those laws admit as much.

Those laws do not prevent people having semi-auto guns, they prevent them having them legally.

The US is one place where the type of firearm that can easily facilitate a massacre should be removed, as they seem to be a bit too fond of that sort of thing.

I have noticed a lot more police in this area (applauds the police), though I can’t say I’ve noticed an increase of dodgy people or crime.

But then again, I tend to not be in the traditional areas/times for experiencing nutjobbery.

vg 6:29 pm 05 Apr 09

“Nowadays we seem to have a murder a week here in Canberra – we probably don’t but it seems that way”

You must be completely paranoid because that is total bullshit

vg 6:28 pm 05 Apr 09

“Also in the US, they have a tendency to arm their poor by putting gun-stores in and near every dodgy area in the country. That doesn’t help anyone.”

How do poor people afford guns then?

Clown Killer 5:24 pm 05 Apr 09

When I first came to Canberra about 20-odd years ago there was a woman found dead in a ditch somewhere out near Bungendore and she was last seen alive at a seedy bar that was where Mooseheads is now. The murder was front page news for what seemed like six months and I remember thinking that, despite the demise of the poor woman, Canberra must be a pretty safe place because in Melbourne (where I used to live) there seemed to be a murder (or two) every week and no one made too much fuss – or the media just moved on to the next story.

Nowadays we seem to have a murder a week here in Canberra – we probably don’t but it seems that way. Is it because there’s more violent crime or is crime just the same and the media beats it into more of a story? I certainly don’t feel any more or less safe then I did say ten years ago.

Psygorian 5:04 pm 05 Apr 09

The crime rate will go where we allow it to go. We all should be standing up to these Sh#theads and saying we will not tolerate you. Point in fact, a couple of weeks ago I was down at my local IGA and the manager was trying to evict to young people from the shop for unacceptable behaviour to other shoppers. Try as he might, these lads were challenging him to do something. The manager could only tell them that he was going to call the police which only made them laugh at him. I was listening to this and thought enough was enough. I went up to these lads and told them to “leave in peace, or leave in pieces, up to them.”
They thought about it for a while, but me staring at them made them think twice about causing any more trouble and they left. And I think that you will find that most of the crime is committed by a small percentage of idiots. In some cases, by catching one or two people, crime can go down by 50%.
Just say NO. We will not put up with it. Criminals don’t want to be exposed and known, so let them know we know who you are and they will back down.

Deadmandrinking 2:38 pm 05 Apr 09

Fisho, the gun crime in the UK is nowhere near what it is in the US. In fact, I think the UK’s crime rate overall is about the same as ours. I know where you’re sourcing this idea too. The NRA was squawking about Australia and the UK’s crime rates being higher overall than the US’. The UK and Australia had higher assaults and burglaries and that kind of thing, however the US had a much, much larger homicide rate.

The other thing to remember is that australia has not had a mass shooting in the likes of port arthur/strathfield/hoddle st, since the introduction of the gun laws, which prevent homeowners from having semi-automatic weapons like the ones used in those killings. The US had one last week. I know it’s a big country, but still, it’s beginning to seem like there’s one every month there.

Also in the US, they have a tendency to arm their poor by putting gun-stores in and near every dodgy area in the country. That doesn’t help anyone.

In regards to Canberra crime – it’s probably ‘getting worse’, but only due to the fact that Canberra is getting bigger. To a lot of long-term residents, it would seem like a bad thing, but really, if there’s more crime because there’s more people, you’re not drastically more likely to be affected.

Deckard 1:45 pm 05 Apr 09

Kambah is a massive suburb – almost the same size as the whole of Weston Creek. It has a large mixture of housing types. From the govies to the semi mansions of Urambi hills.

It may have a few dodgy spots, but nowhere more than anywhere else.

Clown Killer 1:19 pm 05 Apr 09

I’ve lived in Kambah since 2002 and so far it seems like it’s not really any more dangerous (or safer for that matter) than anywhere else I’ve been in Canberra. Maybe Kambah exports its crime to other places in Canberra.

vg 9:10 am 05 Apr 09

3 places not to buy

Kambah
Charnwood
Oaks Estate

Timberwolf65 8:54 am 05 Apr 09

2604 said :

This is a bit off-topic, but does anyone know where to find crime statistics by suburb in Canberra?

We are looking for a family home and want to make sure that the area is relatively free of crime (violent and petty) before purchasing.

I know I would move back to Duffy in an instant, You don’t really hear of much happening there lately, I think all the shit is down South side, which is where I currently live.
We bought a house 7 years ago and it’s just in the last 3 years I have found things are starting to get worse round here.

I know crime is everywhere but there is a lot of young families here because it’s a bit cheaper.

So don’t buy South side.

Poverty doesn’t care about skin colour, even if we do.

Fisho 7:24 am 05 Apr 09

Ralph said :

The question you need to be asking is: Who is committing these violent crimes? That you will find most illuminating. Same goes for the United States, but even more illuminating. And before DMD and Woody start screeching, I know, it be caused by white man oppression, and modernity.

Similar situation here, although it’s a less worse, because we don’t arm our poor.

Indeed, and chains caused slavery.

Thats easy…. mostly its young males from a lower socio-economic background. Drugs are also a major influence.
This is true of every country, and if you look closer the age of the males involved is starting to lower (13-25 instead of 16-25 a few years back)

There isn’t actually a direct correlation between rates of gun ownership and violent crime globally. High ownership of guns doesn’t automatically mean high rates of violent crime – quite the opposite in many places. The UK, where guns are vurtually banned by law, has a high rate of violent/gun crime. Male, poor, drugs. Those are they key factors.

I’m sure some PC clown will start sqwawking about race.

joy123 1:02 am 05 Apr 09

Well I lived in PNG for 2 years and we had security cameras in the house, electric gates, six foot high fences with barbed wire, two way radio, one bedroom lined with steel completely, bars on all windows and security fire doors with three locks including dead locks, two guard dogs. Nothing scares me now, if the natives want to get in they used to axe their way in regardless if your home or not, never happened to us as we treated the locals with respect, mind you, you would never walk anywhere, always in the car with all doors locked

Americanberran 10:18 pm 04 Apr 09

Here’s the biggest crime of all…which isn’t even officially classified as such: The Super Fund

canberra bureaucrat 10:05 pm 04 Apr 09

Also there is a greater fear of ‘visceral’ risks. Things like shark attacks, abduction, violent crime and the like (gruesome, scary etc), seem scarier than driving a car, smoking etc (familiar, common-place, yet more likely to kill us). The fear we have of visceral risks can be totally out of proportion, e.g. we are all more likely to die of a car crash driving to the south coast than from a shark attack there, yet many would fear the shark attack more.

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