Is it just me?

The_TaxMan 12 June 2012 65

When it comes to parking I really only have 1 gripe and that is with people that park in Disabled Spots when they are clearly not disabled. Before anyone comes back with “Just because they don’t look disabled doesn’t mean thier not” I agree but you see to qualify for an MPP (Mobility Parking Permit) you MUST meet one of the following criteria

  • Confined to wheel chair.
  • Has lost one or both legs.
  • Suffers from chronic and seriously debilitating respiratory, cardiac, or arthritic conditions that affect mobility.
  • Utilises walking aids.
  • Is permanently blind.
  • So as you can see it is fairly easy to determine whether the 20something yr old you saw getting out of the car in a mini skirt and 6″ stiletto heels meets the criteria, in fact in NSW it is further qualified by the extra clause

  • can walk 100 metres unaided
  • I work in Civic and am daily subjected to a person form my building parking illegally every day in a Disabled spot. They use a NSW permit in the ACT and neither the NSW nor the ACT Guv have the authority ‘apparently’ nor the will ‘obviously’ to do something about it.

    I don’t care if someone uses a Permit to get free parking so be it but to park in a disabled spot meaning that people in genuine need cannot is not only illegal but immoral as well.

    This has been bought to the persons attention ‘no change’ other than an implied threat that I persist they will accuse me of bullying and because bullying is accepted as fact merely by percepion i cannot ‘ask’ that person not to do it. It has been reported to their boss, no care ‘outside of work’ a story printed in the weekly organisation news letter ‘no care’ reported to ACT Gov ‘no care’ NSW permit, reported to NSW Gov ‘no care’ offence in the ACT. Used to be people would do the right thing if asked but seems that those that believe they are ‘owed’ something by society in general don’t give a flying rat’s arse providing it doesn’t upset their personal feelings and F##k everybody else.

    So what would you people do? Now try and be constructive ‘yes i know for some that is impossible’


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    devils_advocate devils_advocate 10:01 am 10 May 13

    If the problem is that non-disabled people are using disabled spots, the solution is obvious.

    Crowbar to the knees.

    Then they get to continue having access to convenient parking, and it ends the outrage by removing any doubt as to their disability.

    Aeek Aeek 11:38 pm 09 May 13

    spinact said :

    I’m still perplexed as to why someone who is legally blind would need a parking permit, how would they know where to park if they can’t see the disabled parking sign?…………..

    and yet you have no problem with them driving ???

    dpm dpm 10:24 pm 09 May 13

    MissChief said :

    This sounds just like a post put up 12 months ago. Same person? Hope not. Either way, let it go. Seriously, LET IT GO. You must have better things to waste your energy on.

    This IS the post from a year ago….

    MissChief MissChief 6:25 pm 09 May 13

    This sounds just like a post put up 12 months ago. Same person? Hope not. Either way, let it go. Seriously, LET IT GO. You must have better things to waste your energy on.

    Kalfour Kalfour 5:48 pm 09 May 13

    spinact said :

    I’m still perplexed as to why someone who is legally blind would need a parking permit, how would they know where to park if they can’t see the disabled parking sign?…………..

    The have the permit so they won’t have to walk too far when OTHER people drive them places (taxis etc).

    Kalfour Kalfour 5:43 pm 09 May 13

    spinact said :

    I’m still perplexed as to why someone who is legally blind would need a parking permit, how would they know where to park if they can’t see the disabled parking sign?…………..

    They have the permit so their friends, taxi drivers etc can use it when they need transport.

    Kalfour Kalfour 5:39 pm 09 May 13

    OP: ““Just because they don’t look disabled doesn’t mean thier not” I agree but…”

    You can’t tell just by looking at someone.
    My housemate has a neurological condition that causes specific nerves in his body to deteriorate, leading to muscular atrophy. It affects his mobility walking, but is damn hard to see. And because of the muscles it targets, it doesn’t have any impact on his ability to ride a bike.
    He doesn’t actually have a parking permit, but he IS eligible for one.
    He could get out of the car and hop on his unicycle. But that doesn’t make him any less entitled to that parking space.

    My cousin has a condition that meant she was born missing several fingers and toes (and other issues with skin, bone density, and joints), and finds walking painful. Again, unless you happen to look closely at her hands or feet, you’re not likely to see anything visible.

    A friend of mine has severe arthritis. She can’t do certain activities at all, and can only do certain others for small periods of time. But you know what? She CAN wear stilettos.

    I could go on.

    You don’t know that the girl you saw did not have a respiratory or arthritic condition. She could have a cardiac condition. She could have quite a lot of things.

    Alternatively, she could be there to pick up her wheelchair-bound sister. YOU don’t know.

    If you think someone is parking in a spot they’re not entitled to, how about you LOOK and see if there’s a permit on the dashboard.

    Otherwise, don’t judge. An illness shouldn’t have to be visible to be acknowledged.

    IF there is not permit, either report them to the parking inspectors, or get over it.
    No point whinging.

    dixyland dixyland 4:30 pm 09 May 13

    carnardly said :

    To the young couple in the late model white falcon last night at the Kambah Village shops who parked in the disabled spot outside Woolies, he with the long waist length dreadlocks, no of course I don’t know if you have COPD or similar and can’t walk more than 20 feet, but while you don’t have a disabled permit in your car, please don’t park in those spots. Leave them for genuine mobility impaired people.

    Thank you.

    When I used to live in the area, I used to see this every time I went there at night. They just wanted easier access to get their cheap bourbon and smokes usually. Shameful bastards.

    carnardly carnardly 3:30 pm 09 May 13

    To the young couple in the late model white falcon last night at the Kambah Village shops who parked in the disabled spot outside Woolies, he with the long waist length dreadlocks, no of course I don’t know if you have COPD or similar and can’t walk more than 20 feet, but while you don’t have a disabled permit in your car, please don’t park in those spots. Leave them for genuine mobility impaired people. Thank you.

    Cantoangel Cantoangel 1:49 pm 25 Jun 12

    JazzyJess said :

    How do you know this person doesn’t have a disability? It may not be obvious just by looking at her – arthritis, stroke, CF, heart condition. If she is abusing the system then shame on her. If not, then shame on you for harassing her.

    She doesn’t. Karma will happen when one of those stiletto heels pierce through a foot tendon.

    It really s$%ts me when I see my father struggle with a walking stick (even for a short walk…years of working in a blue collar job + the war really takes a toll) just because some inconsiderate scum has decided to park in a disabled spot…with or without sticker.

    Innovation Innovation 10:36 am 20 Jun 12

    HenryBG said :

    DrKoresh said :

    I hope one day you break your femur so you can experience the delight of strolling merrily along on crutches from halfway down the carpark because some wanker with a Raiders number plate has parked sans permit in the disabled spot.

    I don’t think that will ever be a problem, considering all the disabled parks are clogged up with lazy people who’ve scammed a “disabled” sticker on account of how they “get a bit puffed” if they have to walk 100m.

    I’ll admit the needs of some disabled carpark users appear a bit suspect but I agree with others that it is not our place to judge the circumstances. I think your comment is particularly harsh unless you are their treating medical professional.

    I knew someone who “got a bit puffed if they had to walk a 100m” … and then she needed oxygen and was buggered for several days after. That young person put off a genuine need to get a disabled permit because, on the surface, she appeared well and was worried about judgements from people like you. Her friends had to practically drag her to the Doctors get a permit. Sadly she is no longer with us.

    carnardly carnardly 10:03 am 20 Jun 12

    I would’ve gone nutso at someone writing on my car. Did you ask him what the hell he was doing to your car? what was his response?

    VYBerlinaV8_is_back VYBerlinaV8_is_back 9:30 am 20 Jun 12

    Nick said :

    Well how’s this:
    Tonight just after 8pm came back to my car parked outside Canberra House to find an old man writing in texta ‘asshole’ on my windscreen because he thought the park I had parked in was for disabled.
    WTF?
    It used to be, once.
    It isn’t anymore.
    The signs clearly state who can park there.
    Silly old bugger can’t read signs.
    Seems to think he can vandalise other people’s cars if he doesn’t like where they park.
    I got a photo of him, his car, the carpark and the sign and went to the police.
    He drives a white Holden Astra.

    When the cops identify him, make sure you pass the reference number to your insurance company so they can chase him down.

    HenryBG HenryBG 11:55 pm 19 Jun 12

    DrKoresh said :

    I hope one day you break your femur so you can experience the delight of strolling merrily along on crutches from halfway down the carpark because some wanker with a Raiders number plate has parked sans permit in the disabled spot.

    I don’t think that will ever be a problem, considering all the disabled parks are clogged up with lazy people who’ve scammed a “disabled” sticker on account of how they “get a bit puffed” if they have to walk 100m.

    spinact spinact 9:35 pm 19 Jun 12

    I’m still perplexed as to why someone who is legally blind would need a parking permit, how would they know where to park if they can’t see the disabled parking sign?…………..

    Nick Nick 8:17 pm 19 Jun 12

    Well how’s this:
    Tonight just after 8pm came back to my car parked outside Canberra House to find an old man writing in texta ‘asshole’ on my windscreen because he thought the park I had parked in was for disabled.
    WTF?
    It used to be, once.
    It isn’t anymore.
    The signs clearly state who can park there.
    Silly old bugger can’t read signs.
    Seems to think he can vandalise other people’s cars if he doesn’t like where they park.
    I got a photo of him, his car, the carpark and the sign and went to the police.
    He drives a white Holden Astra.

    The_TaxMan The_TaxMan 10:16 am 15 Jun 12

    Well thanks to some with sensible suggestions and comments as for the rest of you FOOLS thanks for nothing at all. Now for the person who siad I made up the details for an MPP the info i provided came directly from the NSW RTA Site not TAMS you idiot as TAMS does not exist in NSW.

    Now the girl in question is not disabled her mother is blind, I on the other am disabled which is why I am pissed. Don’t worry about my mental state as when I am not at work where I can see her car directly in front of me I do not think about her at all.

    As for punitive damage to her car, whilst it would be stress relieving for a few seconds I don’t think it would help much. I must admit I am interested in the valve cap? idea where no actual damage is done.

    Oh and finally

    beejay76 said :

    I have a friend with rheumatoid arthritis (in her thirties) and another with multiple sclerosis, also in her thirties. Neither ‘looks’ disabled. They are, though.

    I know you explicitly said you don’t want to hear that. Whether you want to hear it or not, it’s still true.

    Did you actually read the post at all where exactly did I explicitly say I didn’t want anyone to tell me about their friends who don’t look disabled but are???? you my dear are clearly nuts.

    MissChief MissChief 11:04 pm 13 Jun 12

    Your list is not complete. There are other less obvious but equality debilitating conditions that are accepted for disabled parking. A few have already been mentioned here. Carers of disabled people and parents with disabled children are also eligible. Be very careful about judging people based on appearance alone.

    staringclown staringclown 9:06 pm 13 Jun 12

    Dilandach said :

    Using a disabled permit while not being disabled themselves says to me that they’re morally damaged.

    I think we need ‘morally damaged’ permits. They get to park the closest to the supermarket entrances [i]but[/i] they’re not actually allowed to enter the shops.

    Vacant ‘morally damaged’ parking spots should be available for use by the disabled.

    TheDancingDjinn TheDancingDjinn 8:52 pm 13 Jun 12

    Slice said :

    Ewoks will kill all of you……..

    I thought Ewoks were good guys? – or have i ignored their evils because they are just so cute!!

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