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Jamison Inn is Falling Down

By ArandaBill - 9 January 2012 59

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It has become a real community eyesore and environmental hazard with lots of loose iron flapping in the breeze.

With a real gust of wind the iron will end up on cars in the Jamison Plaza carpark or in neighbouring gardens or in the adjacent children’s playground.

The development proposal for the site is for a multistory apartment block of some 250+ one and two bedroom appartments – a furure slum development which is attracting community opposition.

There is also concern about the lack of onsite carparking and the consequent impact on the Jamison Plaza carpark which is always very busy.

It is about time the ACT Government issues a site cleanup or demolition order.

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Beserk Keyboard Warrior 2:20 pm 07 Nov 12

Skidd Marx said :

Given the lack of activity on the site I’d be a little nervous if I’d have bought one of these units off the plan. Anyone know what the hold-up is?

You called it Skidd.

OMalleyBob 3:39 pm 14 Sep 12

Apparently the developer has become insolvent.

http://www.esbr.com.au/files/2012/08/Report-To-creditors-FINAL.pdf

Aaroncbr 10:02 am 15 Aug 12

Get Mindsnare to play there again, that will tear it down.

Pitchka 9:50 am 15 Aug 12

I can see why the locals dont want it knocked down, it makes there homes look better.

Skidd Marx 9:43 am 15 Aug 12

Given the lack of activity on the site I’d be a little nervous if I’d have bought one of these units off the plan. Anyone know what the hold-up is?

EMconstruction 2:44 am 15 Aug 12

Looks like construction isn’t going ahead after all?

GardeningGirl 5:18 pm 15 Mar 12

dpm said :

Personally, I don’t really have too much of a problem with most of the new blocks of flats around nowadays

I don’t have a problem with the aesthetics of most of them either (concerns about interiors, build quality, parking is another thing). But the view towards New Acton really emphasises to me how they can vary. Some of the newer buildings both apartments and offices have style, but some of the older apartments look like concrete canyon guvvies and stick out out like a sore thumb in what’s otherwise turning into a not bad city skyline. Not everyone wants to live in medium-high density, I personally don’t, but some people do and it’s going to be a part of Canberra’s streetscape so I hope the developers are compelled to do it well, not just profitably.

dpm said :

Then there’s the problem of what you (or I) think is nice architecture may not be to other people’s taste anyway.

There are buildings I don’t like, they aren’t my personal style, but they have a style and I find them perfectly tolerable in the overall picture. It’s the clunky chunks of oversized nothing style I really hate. Of course now somebody will build something really award-winningly extreme and I’ll eat my words!

agent00 3:42 pm 15 Mar 12

Jethro said :

dpm said :

Personally, I don’t really have too much of a problem with most of the new blocks of flats around nowadays

Those ones on Luxton Street between Belco Westfield and Lake G. look appalling. Whenever I have interstate visitors they invariably make some comment on the true ugliness of those buildings.

You meant the Shroes and Lakeside? They are not of very high quality, I know. But if you look at some of the other buildings that will go up soon, like the Sentinel and Altitude, I have no doubt they will look great and make the Belco town centre area look more attractive. Just look at the Waterside built by NDH on Biessel St. in the early 2000’s, not all high-rises are poorly built. It all depends on who the architect/developer/builder is. In general, anything drawn up by Collin Stewart and Townsend and Associates are quite good.

Jethro 12:47 am 18 Feb 12

dpm said :

Personally, I don’t really have too much of a problem with most of the new blocks of flats around nowadays

Those ones on Luxton Street between Belco Westfield and Lake G. look appalling. Whenever I have interstate visitors they invariably make some comment on the true ugliness of those buildings.

agent00 11:13 pm 17 Feb 12

If you haven’t seen the plan or the DA I would say you are in position to comment on it. It’s always funny seeing people judge something based on what they have been told without doing some research themselves. The point I want to make is that not all apartments have shoddy construction – Townsend the principle architect has definitely got a good track record.

dpm 10:01 am 17 Feb 12

agent00 said :

OK, so you are saying the proposed development will look horrible? Just to give you some ideas, these apartments are being done by the same developer who built Space the Residence in Turner, http://www.architecture.com.au/awards_search?option=showaward&entryno=20061007

I actually never gave my opinion on that development’s looks. Personally, I don’t really have too much of a problem with most of the new blocks of flats around nowadays (OK, I agree, Sky plaza is a horror!). I don’t even know what criteria is used to categorise what is and isn’t a ‘souless hole’!
I was actually just speculating a couple of reasons that may be behind developers, in general, not going for the architecture angle….
BTW, your link kinda perfectly illustrates my second point. Apparently Space was an expensive, award-winning design(?), but I’m sure most people commenting here would say the pics in the link you provided show a large, white ‘souless hole’?! But kudos for once again mentioning ‘these apartments are being done by the same developer who built Space the Residence in Turner’. I think that’s about the 10th time that’s been mentioned in a thread about this Jamo development! 🙂
As I said, doesn’t worry me. My place would probably be considered an ugly dog box so who am I to throw stones! Hahahaha!

Captain RAAF 9:28 am 17 Feb 12

Are there any good Beer related signs left there?

Need to decorate the home bar.

Heavs 8:57 am 17 Feb 12

agent00 said :

dpm said :

Thumper said :

What is it with Canberra?

Anything old (oldish or with character) must be bulldozed and replaced with a concrete eyesore.

Concrete eyesores are cheaper and quicker.
Remember, we’re dealing with a bunch of renters who don’t even want insulation in their abodes to raise the price. Do you really think they want to pay any extra costs associated with ‘paying back’ architecturally-designed buildings that have had heaps of money spent on ‘window dressing’ the external look and feel of them?!
Can’t have ot both ways really. Hahahaha!
Then there’s the problem of what you (or I) think is nice architecture may not be to other people’s taste anyway. Take for instance the ApARTments in Acton:
http://www.newacton.com.au/live/the-apartments
That has had a fair bit spent on making it look different and ‘high-class’, yet for every person who thinks it is one of the better apartment buildings, there will be another who hates it! I suppose with all this, the developers of the more mass-produced places figure ‘why bother’? 🙂

OK, so you are saying the proposed development will look horrible? Just to give you some ideas, these apartments are being done by the same developer who built Space the Residence in Turner, http://www.architecture.com.au/awards_search?option=showaward&entryno=20061007

Ps – I’m definitely not working for the developer or selling the apartments in my day job. Love Agent000.

Thumper 11:21 pm 16 Feb 12

OK, so you are saying the proposed development will look horrible?

Yes.

agent00 11:04 pm 16 Feb 12

dpm said :

Thumper said :

What is it with Canberra?

Anything old (oldish or with character) must be bulldozed and replaced with a concrete eyesore.

Concrete eyesores are cheaper and quicker.
Remember, we’re dealing with a bunch of renters who don’t even want insulation in their abodes to raise the price. Do you really think they want to pay any extra costs associated with ‘paying back’ architecturally-designed buildings that have had heaps of money spent on ‘window dressing’ the external look and feel of them?!
Can’t have ot both ways really. Hahahaha!
Then there’s the problem of what you (or I) think is nice architecture may not be to other people’s taste anyway. Take for instance the ApARTments in Acton:
http://www.newacton.com.au/live/the-apartments
That has had a fair bit spent on making it look different and ‘high-class’, yet for every person who thinks it is one of the better apartment buildings, there will be another who hates it! I suppose with all this, the developers of the more mass-produced places figure ‘why bother’? 🙂

OK, so you are saying the proposed development will look horrible? Just to give you some ideas, these apartments are being done by the same developer who built Space the Residence in Turner, http://www.architecture.com.au/awards_search?option=showaward&entryno=20061007

dpm 9:35 am 16 Feb 12

Thumper said :

What is it with Canberra?

Anything old (oldish or with character) must be bulldozed and replaced with a concrete eyesore.

Concrete eyesores are cheaper and quicker.
Remember, we’re dealing with a bunch of renters who don’t even want insulation in their abodes to raise the price. Do you really think they want to pay any extra costs associated with ‘paying back’ architecturally-designed buildings that have had heaps of money spent on ‘window dressing’ the external look and feel of them?!
Can’t have ot both ways really. Hahahaha!
Then there’s the problem of what you (or I) think is nice architecture may not be to other people’s taste anyway. Take for instance the ApARTments in Acton:
http://www.newacton.com.au/live/the-apartments
That has had a fair bit spent on making it look different and ‘high-class’, yet for every person who thinks it is one of the better apartment buildings, there will be another who hates it! I suppose with all this, the developers of the more mass-produced places figure ‘why bother’? 🙂

Deref 7:24 am 16 Feb 12

Thumper said :

What is it with Canberra?

Anything old (oldish or with character) must be bulldozed and replaced with a concrete eyesore.

Quite.

I remember wandering past a real estate agent’s window many years ago when Kingston was a beautiful, leafy suburb full of gorgeous old homes. One such was pictured in the window with text saying “Beautiful old Canberra home in magnificent condition. Spacious landscaped private gardens. Ideal site for redevelopment.”

We have met the philistines, and they are us.

Jethro 6:21 am 16 Feb 12

agent00 said :

Jethro said :

agent00 said :

The government should fix the parking then by putting underground parking like in Ganghalin. It’s not the developer’s responsibility to cram more parking spaces on-site.

I think it all started out by DeMarco trying to mislead the public in believing that there is insufficient parking. Those who live in the area all know parking can be easily spotted on the north side of the centre.

So… the developers aren’t going to provide enough parking to satisfy the needs of the new tenants (bec ause that would cut into profit margins), so the government should invest in an underground car park for a shopping centre that would otherwise have enough car parks if not for the development.

I like your style.

You should like it. Do you even know how many car spaces are planned? Every two bedroom apartments are given two car spaces and some of the larger one bedrooms even have two car spaces just because DeMarco and Coe fussed about it. Anyway apparently rich men and politicians get to run everything in life these days. They tell you the wrong story and you choose to believe them. What else can I say.

Well if there are going to be enough parks at the new development why are you arguing the government shiuld expand the Jamo carpark wich is more than large enough already?

agent00 12:05 am 16 Feb 12

Jethro said :

agent00 said :

The government should fix the parking then by putting underground parking like in Ganghalin. It’s not the developer’s responsibility to cram more parking spaces on-site.

I think it all started out by DeMarco trying to mislead the public in believing that there is insufficient parking. Those who live in the area all know parking can be easily spotted on the north side of the centre.

So… the developers aren’t going to provide enough parking to satisfy the needs of the new tenants (bec ause that would cut into profit margins), so the government should invest in an underground car park for a shopping centre that would otherwise have enough car parks if not for the development.

I like your style.

You should like it. Do you even know how many car spaces are planned? Every two bedroom apartments are given two car spaces and some of the larger one bedrooms even have two car spaces just because DeMarco and Coe fussed about it. Anyway apparently rich men and politicians get to run everything in life these days. They tell you the wrong story and you choose to believe them. What else can I say.

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