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Judge gives knifepoint carjacker a chance to get her ‘act together’

By dexi 28 November 2008 104

The Canberra Times is running with the headline: Judge gives knifepoint carjacker a chance to get her ‘act together’

I  thought everyone should have the opportunity to do a little criticising.

I would be interested in what else had been going on in Amanda’s life that would lead to such a stupid action. Not thinking does not do it for me.

    “But if she breached any of the conditions, which include an order not to consume any drugs or alcohol, she would got to jail. he said he knew he would probably be criticised for his sentencing decision, particularly by the victim. Bastow is due to appear again in May next year.

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James-T-Kirk 9:32 am 16 Mar 10

Basto,

Be very very careful with this site – many here are not here to build up – but to take down.

I have been guilty in the past of mistreating people on the site – Take what you have now, and ignore what others say.

Live YOUR life to the full.

sloppery 8:09 am 16 Mar 10

basto said :

sloppery said :

Hi Basto – glad things seem to have worked out for you. What do you do for a job these days (just generally, you don’t have to identify your actual employer)?[/

cleaner …

Good to see you turning things around. Hope it works out well.

basto 6:34 pm 15 Mar 10

sloppery said :

Hi Basto – glad things seem to have worked out for you. What do you do for a job these days (just generally, you don’t have to identify your actual employer)?[/

cleaner …

sloppery 12:01 pm 15 Mar 10

Hi Basto – glad things seem to have worked out for you. What do you do for a job these days (just generally, you don’t have to identify your actual employer)?

PBO 11:50 am 15 Mar 10

basto said :

Look i know alot of people believe i am a nasty person … i am not proud of my offence or what i have left my victim with but i am not looking sympathy i just dont understand how most people can say bad things about me when u dont even know me i am a person that none of u have met.. none of u people know about my life u just read it out of a paper and .. YES i have become a better person and yes was my 1st offence .. isnt it about giving people chances and for some one like me i have in proved myself and no re offended i know i cant take back what or how the victim feeels .. but none of u understand that it effects me every day to or what i did .. it is hurtful and i like to knowlege that with all the courses and programs i have attended i am no longer .. that person , depressed .. how would most of u guys like it if ur father took off when u were 12 and u got to be in a cviolent relationship u cant sit here and blame that on me i moved away from that … this ismt a excuse caue i know who i am and how i feel so how could u judge a peson that u dont know form a bar of soap… thanks .. for all ur input but only i know i have changed and i am and i thought the public believe in letting people have that second chance and i believ i have used that and made a abetter person for myself .. but my life now is great but i still have everyday to wake up and realise what i have done

Good on you Basto, keep up the good work and dont pay attention or take to heart some of the comments previously said. If you have the guts to come here and apologise then I believe that you should have a chance to do that.

basto 10:35 am 15 Mar 10

dexi said :

The children were placed in foster care earlier this year.

they wernt place in care u dont know any part of that ok .. so dont put ur comment about my kids when u dont know anything .. i have my kids and we are all well

basto 10:33 am 15 Mar 10

Pommy bastard said :

So this woman was “abused” by her three partners.

What has this to do with car-jacking at knifepoint while drunk, and not getting a custodial sentence for her crime?

Is getting yourself into abusive relationships a “get out of jail free” card these days?

u may think that but look at peoples lives and what they learn from being in it them selfs ok ..

basto 10:27 am 15 Mar 10

Look i know alot of people believe i am a nasty person … i am not proud of my offence or what i have left my victim with but i am not looking sympathy i just dont understand how most people can say bad things about me when u dont even know me i am a person that none of u have met.. none of u people know about my life u just read it out of a paper and .. YES i have become a better person and yes was my 1st offence .. isnt it about giving people chances and for some one like me i have in proved myself and no re offended i know i cant take back what or how the victim feeels .. but none of u understand that it effects me every day to or what i did .. it is hurtful and i like to knowlege that with all the courses and programs i have attended i am no longer .. that person , depressed .. how would most of u guys like it if ur father took off when u were 12 and u got to be in a cviolent relationship u cant sit here and blame that on me i moved away from that … this ismt a excuse caue i know who i am and how i feel so how could u judge a peson that u dont know form a bar of soap… thanks .. for all ur input but only i know i have changed and i am and i thought the public believe in letting people have that second chance and i believ i have used that and made a abetter person for myself .. but my life now is great but i still have everyday to wake up and realise what i have done

Gobbo 10:25 am 30 Nov 08

Mr Evil said :

As to whether Mandy will stay clean and off the angry juice – who are we kidding here……..she’ll be up in front of the magistrate quicker than you can say “Get outta the car and give me your purse, bitch!”?

That being the case, then Justice Refshauge was just delaying the sentencing.

Perhaps he had felt a touch of the Scrooge’s about him that day and felt like giving Tiny Tim an opportunity of grabbing that big fat turkey before any ghosts visited him?

Now … it is up to Tiny Tim to grab it.

Mr Evil 9:52 am 30 Nov 08

I think there are many sole parents out there who do a fantastic job under often very difficult and trying circumstances – and those are the ones who truly deserve all the help and assistance we can give them……….but, then there are the ones like Amanda, who really do not do themselves any favours.

Yep, she may have had a bad life so far, but she’s 21 for God’s sake and is certainly old enough and ugly enough to chose to be a winner or a loser. I mean, if she truly loved and cared about her kids, wouldn’t you think that she’d be doing everything in her power to prove that she is a good person and can love and care for her kids? Child Services don’t just take kids off people at the drop of a hat, so she must have been a pretty sh1tful mother for them to actually react to the situation.

As to whether Mandy will stay clean and off the angry juice – who are we kidding here……..she’ll be up in front of the magistrate quicker than you can say “Get outta the car and give me your purse, bitch!”?

Pommy bastard 9:39 am 30 Nov 08

Gobbo said :

Now, who wants to open a book on whether Amanda will be able to comply with Justice Refshauge’s conditions on not to consume any drugs or alcohol with the Chrissy season upon us?

I don’t think you’ll get good odds on that one…

Thumper 9:31 am 30 Nov 08

Trollope was one of the most successful, prolific and respected English novelists of the Victorian era 😉

Gobbo 9:28 am 30 Nov 08

I just KNEW that a thread encouraging people to “have the opportunity to do a little criticising” was going to go bad as soon as some posters associated with certain aspects of an armed offenders life.

And what happened?

Now, who wants to open a book on whether Amanda will be able to comply with Justice Refshauge’s conditions on not to consume any drugs or alcohol with the Chrissy season upon us?

Granny 9:24 am 30 Nov 08

Oh Dexi, you know I think the world of you. It really isn’t your fault. It’s just human nature. But when you’ve been at the bottom of the great Australian ‘untouchable’ caste it does leave its mark. I know you understand.

Big hug,
Granny

Starscream 7:14 am 30 Nov 08

dexi, really, stop trolling.

Special G 6:05 am 30 Nov 08

The ACT gaol is due to open in January so as I said previously the Judge would have deferred in order to send her there instead. I think until the gaol opens we might be seeing a couple of these results. It is used quite regularly for crooks to attend rehabs as well.

As for self defence – in the ACT you can bring a knife, pick the fight then stab the bloke in the head and it is still self defence.

dexi 5:26 am 30 Nov 08

Berraboy. Trollop is a woman regarded as slovenly or untidy, or a women seen as a whore or prostitute. Thanks for asking 🙂

Trollop has been used as a form of abuse in this thread by men, towards single mums with multiple children, who require government housing and welfare. Abuser believe their behavior is justified (thankyou sepi). Some men want to treat single mums in a harmful, injurious and offensive way, by reducing or removing their sole form of financial support and shelter. They have written insultingly, harsh, and unjust posts about single women’s choices. They justify this by claiming some financial saving’s in tax and moral enlightenment for the “Trollops”.

I think its just plain abuse.

These are some signs of abusers.
Jealousy
Controlling Behavior
Quick Involvement
Unrealistic Expectations
Hypersensitivity
Blames Others For His Problems
Blames Others For Feelings
Verbal Abuse

I understand how you could feel hurt Granny. I’m sorry that my first item lead to single mum bashing.

Ian 10:58 pm 29 Nov 08

VYBerlina …. – I totally agree with #85. Regardless of her circumstances she voluntarily elected to commit a violent crime. Nothing in that case should excuse her from a prison sentence. No-one has forced her to pull a knife on the victim and steal her car … she chose to, and should suffer the consequences, those being removed from general society for a period of time.

Speaking of prison, why has the ACT govt wasted money building one? I mean who gets sent ot jail from our courts anyway. (also, the thing about prinsoners being closer to their families and friends cuts no ice with me – who gives a shit if they get sent a long way from home – should have thought about that before committing their crimes).

Question is what would have happened if the person in the car thought his or her life was threatoned and basically fought back and killed her in self defence. I bet then the bleading hearts would have come out and the person acting in self defence would have got some gaol time.

Exactly. And this is what sucks arse in this town. If someone knowingly threatens or harms you, and it’s obvious that’s what’s happening, then I think the rights of the potential victim should be paramount, to the extent that the rights of the attacker are reduced to zero if need be. In other words, if someone breaks into your home to beat you up and rape your wife, you should be allowed to kill them in self defence.

Perhaps we need to get back to the topic: a young woman decided it was ok to carjack someone at knifepoint. Whether she is a mum, pregnant, druggo (or not) whatever is, frankly, irrelevant. She chose to commit a crime, and I don’t see why she can possibly be let off. The judiciary are supposed to issue penalties in accordance with law, which is supposed to be set to represent the best interests of the community. Do we really think those interests have been represented? I sure don’t. I think a barrier should be put between people like this and the law abiding members of the community – this barrier being a custodial sentence.

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