Jumper at National Capital Hospital

johnboy 5 February 2009 103

Word reaches us that there’s a “jumper” at the National Capital Hospital right now.

More news on this as it comes to hand.


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UPDATED: Readers will, I am sure, be pleased to know that after a 6 hour incident the man in question was talked safely down off the roof. I hear he was a psych outpatient unhappy with his treatment and the threat to jump followed a period of cavorting naked through the wards.


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Gobbo Gobbo 1:27 pm 10 Feb 09

Thumper said :

I agree with fnaah on this one.

Sounds like a head in the sand approach to not report suicides.

What about reporting on people who have issues with taking (or not taking) their appropriate psych meds?

This wasn’t a suicide from what I can gather. This was a disturbed patient with issues.

Thumper Thumper 1:19 pm 10 Feb 09

I agree with fnaah on this one.

Sounds like a head in the sand approach to not report suicides.

johnboy johnboy 1:07 pm 10 Feb 09

Thanks LB, I’m aware of the Press Council’s suggestions. In this case I hold a contrary view.

fnaah fnaah 1:06 pm 10 Feb 09

Oh, fair enough, not reporting is helping “curb the rate of suicide”. Sould we take the same approach to the “drug problem” or any other societal issue?

“Not talking about it” seems pretty dumb. (Although the last para seems like a good idea.)

Loose Brown Loose Brown 1:01 pm 10 Feb 09

Australian Press Council – Reporting of Suicide (Excerpt)

The Press Council is in sympathy with attempts by governmental and other bodies to curb the rate of suicide in Australia, particularly amongst young people. It calls upon the press to continue exercising care and responsibility in reporting matters of suicide and mental illness.

The Council believes that most papers are aware of the desirability of treating suicide with restraint, and of avoiding:

Adding to the pain of relatives and friends of the deceased;
Any reporting which might encourage copy-cat suicides or self harm;
Unnecessary reference to details of method or place of a suicide:
Language or presentation which trivialises, romanticises, or glorifies suicide, particularly in papers which target a youth readership;
Loose or slang use of terms to describe various forms of mental illness, and the risk of stigmatising vulnerable people that may accompany such labels.

The Council also strongly commends to editors the suggestion that articles dealing with suicide, when they are deemed necessary, should include reference to the counselling services available to people in emotional distress and to their families, with contact addresses and phone numbers.

tylersmayhem tylersmayhem 1:00 pm 10 Feb 09

Final warning on abusing other posters TM.<i?

Understood

G-Fresh G-Fresh 12:11 pm 10 Feb 09

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Overheard Overheard 11:02 am 10 Feb 09

tylersmayhem said :

Absolutely. It doesn’t matter whether you are loony or not, your still going to get attention. He should not have let himself get in that state then.

You are a f**king loser CanberraCapital. Good luck getting help if you ever run into trouble with mental illness. I’m waiting for your reply to be “yeah, but that will never happen to someone like me”. Tosser!

That’s not overly helpful, TM. But in a curious way, it’s analagous for the lack of rationality that leads someone to take drastic action. (Believe it or not, I’m actually not having a go at you here.)

I’m running a bet with myself on how long it takes for the moderator (sic) to delete this, but I’m trying to reconcile the instruction in #94 with the language used in #42.

FC FC 10:58 am 10 Feb 09

“While I don’t deny it was a selfish act, was the person a totally self centred and selfish person before whatever drove him to kill himself?

It is surely an indication of how deep in dispair someone is, that they would consider killing themselves over and above their families love for them.”

I agree with you on this one PB.
Looks like there is a first for everything 😉

suicide and depression is such a huge issue in our country, and yet discussion and action about it seems to be so taboo.
My male (mainly) peers seems to be dropping like flies and everyone seems shocked and saddened after the fact. Suicide is a terrible thing and saddens me also – but what saddens me more is how were these people feeling prior to committing suicide, and the fact no one wants to bring anything up with them, or they are so keen to dismiss concerns, not wanting to get involved, or not knowing what to do.

I don’t know about media coverage increasing suicides so I don’t wish to comment on that, however I think it is about time that mental illness/depression/suicide becomes a topic that people aren’t afraid to discuss, to ask for help with. And I think a way of breaking down those barriers might be hacving the topic thrown in peoples faces more so everyone begins to realise what a huge issue it is and so we can then take action.

johnboy johnboy 9:42 am 10 Feb 09

Final warning on abusing other posters TM.

tylersmayhem tylersmayhem 8:53 am 10 Feb 09

Absolutely. It doesn’t matter whether you are loony or not, your still going to get attention. He should not have let himself get in that state then.

You are a f**king loser CanberraCapital. Good luck getting help if you ever run into trouble with mental illness. I’m waiting for your reply to be “yeah, but that will never happen to someone like me”. Tosser!

Overheard Overheard 6:45 pm 09 Feb 09

canberracapital said :

It doesn’t matter whether you are loony or not, your still going to get attention. He should not have let himself get in that state then.

Spoken like someone with a firm grasp on the vagaries and manifestations of mental illness.

[Pause]

Not.

canberracapital canberracapital 6:37 pm 09 Feb 09

Pommy bastard said :

canberracapital said :

This is for all the people who said that his privacy should be respected. Bulls#$t!!! If he wants his privacy respected he should not have gone through the wards naked, and he should not have gone on the roof. If you want privacy, you certainly don’t go on your neighbours roof with a hammer in your hand…..Once you start doing stuff like that then you are bound to get some sought of attention. The jumper is a complete idiot. Good work johnboy.

Yes of course, when you are in such a state that you are running through the hospital naked with the desire to kill yourself running through your head, and are aiming for the roof to jump, your main concern should be; “will people respect my privacy?”

Absolutely. It doesn’t matter whether you are loony or not, your still going to get attention. He should not have let himself get in that state then.

Bowlo Bowlo 5:39 pm 09 Feb 09

johnboy said :

You’re welcome to disagree with me all you like, you’re not welcome to abuse me.

And Bowlo is free to start his own website and say what he likes.

My apologies, JB, if you felt abused. I, obviously, don’t agree, but that’s life.

Pommy bastard Pommy bastard 7:55 am 09 Feb 09

canberracapital said :

This is for all the people who said that his privacy should be respected. Bulls#$t!!! If he wants his privacy respected he should not have gone through the wards naked, and he should not have gone on the roof. If you want privacy, you certainly don’t go on your neighbours roof with a hammer in your hand…..Once you start doing stuff like that then you are bound to get some sought of attention. The jumper is a complete idiot. Good work johnboy.

Yes of course, when you are in such a state that you are running through the hospital naked with the desire to kill yourself running through your head, and are aiming for the roof to jump, your main concern should be; “will people respect my privacy?”

canberracapital canberracapital 7:20 am 09 Feb 09

This is for all the people who said that his privacy should be respected. Bulls#$t!!! If he wants his privacy respected he should not have gone through the wards naked, and he should not have gone on the roof. If you want privacy, you certainly don’t go on your neighbours roof with a hammer in your hand…..Once you start doing stuff like that then you are bound to get some sought of attention. The jumper is a complete idiot. Good work johnboy.

johnboy johnboy 9:09 pm 07 Feb 09

You’re welcome to disagree with me all you like, you’re not welcome to abuse me.

And Bowlo is free to start his own website and say what he likes.

LlamaFrog LlamaFrog 8:36 pm 07 Feb 09

wow johnboy that a sad response putting Bowlo into moderation while you continue to say whatever you feel like.

Pommy bastard Pommy bastard 11:44 am 07 Feb 09

housebound said :

Let’s get real here. A shallow RA report of some poor bloke who had a bad deal from ACT mental health (if only THAT were news) probably won’t influence too many other unwell people on the edge … but it might.

Who says this person had a “bad deal from ACT mental health”?

johnboy johnboy 10:10 am 07 Feb 09

And that’s bowlo into moderation.

You’d think such a big brain would be smarter.

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