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Landmark Cafe to Canberra; We don’t want your business.

By 1337Hax0r 14 August 2012 116

I went along to the Equal Marriage rally in Canberra today to support my son who I am quite proud of. After putting up with me for years he came out and in many ways, opened my mind to the many human rights issues that diverse people face. While he want off to do his thing, I want to sit down and watch. To my annoyance, shortly after I  sat down, the staff at the nearby Landmark Cafe turned up their music to industrial levels in an obvious effort to drown out the rally. That was just the start of their obnoxious behavior. When people from the rally, including myself went to buy a coffee there, we were told “Go away.” and “We don’t want your business.” by the young male staffer there.

Mindful of the campaign urging real heros to walk away, I did, taking my money with me.

The same staffer continued to be obnoxious throughout the rally. When it finished, a member or the rally want to complain but was called a fag. A fight almost ensued, with the staffer from the cafe having to be held back. As my son would say “What a tool!”

Well their message to me was clear,they don’t want my business, they don’t want my son’s business, nor the business of our friends or associates. Nor for that matter do they seem to want anyone’s business judging from that behavior and their statements.

I see there is already an article about this at the Canberra Times.

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Stevian 1:05 pm 17 Aug 12

BigDave said :

I find it quite amusing that people will boycott the cafe because their views conflict with the alleged views of the owner. Like they are going to change the world! Do the same people check the views of the owners of every shop they purchase from? Umm…no… pointless exercise then.

You would be surprised how many people are conscientious consumers. Of course no business is totally clean and some are so ubiquitous that they can’t be avoided. We do what we can, where we can, when we can. As for it being pointless. Why are corporations so scared of grassroots activism that they must counter it with their own astroturfing?

Jim Jones 12:28 pm 17 Aug 12

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

Jim Jones said :

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

Jim Jones said :

Wraith said :

johnboy said :

Gentlemen unless you’ve got something original to add I’m drawing a line under this tiresome pissing contest.

Thank you.

Ah, but it was entertaining. Two people starting by debating trade legislation … and ending shouting ‘TROLL, IDIOT’ at each other.

Was there any resolution? Is the ACT legally part of South Australia? Are businesses allowed to refuse service to people on the basis of them being filthy abominations in the eyes of the one true God?

I do like Mysteryman. He’s not afraid to stick up for the fundamental human rights of bigots!

We seem pretty concerned about the human rights of criminals – why not bigots too?

Yep – I demand a needle exchange for bigots!

Currently trading at the rate of two bigots per needle.

Perhaps an open trading system to allow the market to set the buy/sell spread at an appropriate level?

Yeah, but we have to take the GST and carbon tax (TERK ER JERBS) into account.

And maybe a bigot-needle ombudsman for any disputes.

VYBerlinaV8_is_back 12:04 pm 17 Aug 12

Jim Jones said :

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

Jim Jones said :

Wraith said :

johnboy said :

Gentlemen unless you’ve got something original to add I’m drawing a line under this tiresome pissing contest.

Thank you.

Ah, but it was entertaining. Two people starting by debating trade legislation … and ending shouting ‘TROLL, IDIOT’ at each other.

Was there any resolution? Is the ACT legally part of South Australia? Are businesses allowed to refuse service to people on the basis of them being filthy abominations in the eyes of the one true God?

I do like Mysteryman. He’s not afraid to stick up for the fundamental human rights of bigots!

We seem pretty concerned about the human rights of criminals – why not bigots too?

Yep – I demand a needle exchange for bigots!

Currently trading at the rate of two bigots per needle.

Perhaps an open trading system to allow the market to set the buy/sell spread at an appropriate level?

Jim Jones 11:41 am 17 Aug 12

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

Jim Jones said :

Wraith said :

johnboy said :

Gentlemen unless you’ve got something original to add I’m drawing a line under this tiresome pissing contest.

Thank you.

Ah, but it was entertaining. Two people starting by debating trade legislation … and ending shouting ‘TROLL, IDIOT’ at each other.

Was there any resolution? Is the ACT legally part of South Australia? Are businesses allowed to refuse service to people on the basis of them being filthy abominations in the eyes of the one true God?

I do like Mysteryman. He’s not afraid to stick up for the fundamental human rights of bigots!

We seem pretty concerned about the human rights of criminals – why not bigots too?

Yep – I demand a needle exchange for bigots!

Currently trading at the rate of two bigots per needle.

VYBerlinaV8_is_back 11:39 am 17 Aug 12

johnboy said :

Disrupting a peaceful protest in a public place is a pretty big attack on us all, regardless of the protest.

If the protesters were acting unlawfully that’s what police are for.

If that’s what actually happened. The other side of the story was that the cafe owner was harrassed because he didn’t turn the music down, and responded to that. If that is indeed true, then those involved are d***heads, regardless of their sexual orientation.

dpm 11:16 am 17 Aug 12

johnboy said :

Disrupting a peaceful protest in a public place is a pretty big attack on us all, regardless of the protest.

If the protesters were acting unlawfully that’s what police are for.

I’m not taking sides*, but, by the same token, if they ‘disrupted’ the protest without breaking any laws (by raising music vol?) then that goes the same way as your comment re: police?
How do we determine then if it is an ‘attack’ on us, compared with the peaceful protest – which some may say was an ‘attack’ on their quiet day? Not too easy to point fingers if both were considered lawful (was the music raising lawful?). Could someone say that was a lawful protest too?

*Personally, I think it was probably poor form for the cafe to react in any way, regardless of their opinions, but i’m no expert!

BigDave 10:35 am 17 Aug 12

I find it quite amusing that people will boycott the cafe because their views conflict with the alleged views of the owner. Like they are going to change the world! Do the same people check the views of the owners of every shop they purchase from? Umm…no… pointless exercise then.

    johnboy 10:37 am 17 Aug 12

    Disrupting a peaceful protest in a public place is a pretty big attack on us all, regardless of the protest.

    If the protesters were acting unlawfully that’s what police are for.

VYBerlinaV8_is_back 10:17 am 17 Aug 12

Jim Jones said :

Wraith said :

johnboy said :

Gentlemen unless you’ve got something original to add I’m drawing a line under this tiresome pissing contest.

Thank you.

Ah, but it was entertaining. Two people starting by debating trade legislation … and ending shouting ‘TROLL, IDIOT’ at each other.

Was there any resolution? Is the ACT legally part of South Australia? Are businesses allowed to refuse service to people on the basis of them being filthy abominations in the eyes of the one true God?

I do like Mysteryman. He’s not afraid to stick up for the fundamental human rights of bigots!

We seem pretty concerned about the human rights of criminals – why not bigots too?

Jim Jones 10:08 am 17 Aug 12

Wraith said :

johnboy said :

Gentlemen unless you’ve got something original to add I’m drawing a line under this tiresome pissing contest.

Thank you.

Ah, but it was entertaining. Two people starting by debating trade legislation … and ending shouting ‘TROLL, IDIOT’ at each other.

Was there any resolution? Is the ACT legally part of South Australia? Are businesses allowed to refuse service to people on the basis of them being filthy abominations in the eyes of the one true God?

I do like Mysteryman. He’s not afraid to stick up for the fundamental human rights of bigots!

Wraith 9:40 am 17 Aug 12

johnboy said :

Gentlemen unless you’ve got something original to add I’m drawing a line under this tiresome pissing contest.

Thank you.

Mysteryman said :

Real evidence, like the stuff you ignored? You’re a troll. Simple as that. You don’t even have a reason to get involved in the discussion.

Interesting that your sense of entitlement runs as deep as believeing that you can decide who is allowed to join in a conversation on this site, it would be gob smacking if not so true to form.

I would say I admire your tenacity, but, I can’t, you are embarrasing yourself by not knowing when to quit.

Just to recap – all I did was point out that you are using an irrelevant piece of information to back up your argument, rather than acknowledge that, you revert to form and throw around terms like ‘troll’ and ‘idiot’.

You need to, in the words of Kenny Rogers, know when to walk away, know when to run. Please, for your own sake, move on and go back to cheering on your Liberal MLA mates on other threads.

    johnboy 8:55 am 17 Aug 12

    Gentlemen unless you’ve got something original to add I’m drawing a line under this tiresome pissing contest.

Mysteryman 10:44 pm 16 Aug 12

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Mysteryman said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Mysteryman said :

You’re either an idiot or a troll. Which is it?

Oh yes, well done, your debate skills are shining through: give me two unpalitable options with the expectation I will pick the ‘least worse’ option, you almost had me there…

All you had to do was answer a simple question about what you’re actually arguing, and you didn’t do it.

I think that says more than enough about your motives, and why you only have those two options.

You are embarrasing yourself here you should seriously let it go.

But seeing as you asked, I have never suggested that ‘ trader must provide service to everyone, regardless of their behavior or compliance of the terms of entry to a premises’.

All I have done is point out that you have used irrelevant evidence to back up your argument and I am sure everyone on this site is tired of your desperate attempts to squirm and wriggle away from that fact.

I suggest you go and get your free burrito to raise your blood sugar levels to a normal level so you can focus on gathering real evidence to back up your claims.

Real evidence, like the stuff you ignored? You’re a troll. Simple as that. You don’t even have a reason to get involved in the discussion apart from scrounging for perceived flaws in my argument, which you don’t even disagree with anyway.

You’re a troll and you didn’t even do that well. Pretty sad. But hey, keep going. I’m sure you’ll feel like a real winner if you can get the last, misguided word in. It’s what you usually go for, right?

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