11 January 2025

I don't want to have kids and I shouldn't have to tell you why

| Rasa Kabaila
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 Rasa Kabaila

Rasa Kabaila says women don’t need your advice when it comes to becoming a mother. Photo: Supplied.

With the ‘population bomb’ that so obsessed demographers, futurists and catastrophists from the 1960s onwards now statistically bust, childless women are bearing the blame for everything from collapsing societies, ageing populations and the trauma of grandchild-less baby boomers.

“When you have children … ” is the narrative I hear from many people around me. It’s not even a question of “Do you want kids?”

The statement “when you have kids” is a gross assumption that places unnecessary expectations and pressure on women.

Some classics I’ve heard when I was happily single are, “It’s okay; you have time”, and ” Don’t worry; the right one will come along”.

My favourite was at a dinner party. I had a friend’s family member suggest out of the blue that I have my eggs frozen before going on a four-month overseas trip. Her son, a few years older than me, had done tonnes of travel and had never once been put out in the open like how I was at that moment.

The trends are changing with motherhood.

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The Australian Institute of Family Studies shows that around 30 per cent of women aged 45 to 49 years in 2016 had one child or no children, compared to 16 to 17 per cent in 1981 and 1986.

Regardless of these changes, I can’t help but notice that women who do not have children still tend to be stigmatised in their own unique way. So, as a mental health practitioner and a woman who does not have children (and might always stay that way), I wanted to take the opportunity to help reduce the stigma around women who are child-free.

I’ve never had the pang of wanting children in any way, shape or form. And do you know what I felt? Shame. I felt ashamed because I thought there was something wrong with me and that I would be failing in my role as a woman by not having children. Because, as a little girl, you aren’t told that maybe you won’t want kids, and that’s a great thing, too.

Unfortunately, in the current state of play, while other people (including women) force their assumptions and personal feelings onto women (who are child-free), the latter cohort is encouraged to feel a sense of shame and loss that they may have never felt beforehand.

When I’ve asked countless child-free men, ranging from 20 to 50, about whether they feel this sense of pressure from people about whether or not they will have kids, the straight-up answer I have always been given is “no”. I understand the biological underpinnings of why men are treated differently in this way, but it doesn’t mean we should perpetuate this pressured judgmental behaviour towards women.

The narrative is always important. A slight change in the way we approach our communication with others can make all the difference. I know from my profession in nursing, but importantly as a fellow flawed human being, that it’s hard not to project your feelings and beliefs onto someone else when you are asking them something about them, not you. If a woman hasn’t told you about whether or not she wants children, then work out how important it is for you to ask.

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Embrace her with whatever she tells you. If you want to approach your questioning and comments about the topic of children in a way that implies that a woman hasn’t thought of all of this before, then you need a reality check.

Do not suggest that she gets her eggs frozen when she says she is undecided about whether or not she wants children. Do not tell her that the clock is ticking. She is aware of everything you’ve suggested and has likely thought of it 1000 times before.

She has also likely thought about this path in every different light and has potentially mentally dragged herself through a pressured and painful journey in doing so. She doesn’t need you to convince her to hold a different view or to hear your opinions. She never asked for them based on your own individual wants, belief system, and set of experiences, which are different from hers.

Every woman has an important role in this world, regardless of whether they have children or not. Women are starting to shift the narrative to recognise this. As a collective, we need to build on that change. Every woman should be celebrated.

Rasa Kabaila is a nurse practitioner.

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Gregg Heldon8:41 am 16 Jan 25

It is nobody’s business why people/couples do not have children but their own.
People should not have to explain themselves to others about it. It’s either their decision or the decision was taken away from them. End of story. If they would like to tell you why, up to them. It’s not up to you to pry the information from them or make a judgement call on them.
By the way, 31 years of marriage and no kids. Took us awhile to be okay with that but we are. We have a lifestyle instead.

Woodrow Wilkins11:48 am 18 Jan 25

By the way, 23 years of marriage and three beautiful children. Took myself from being a nobody to rising up the corporate ladder, now own four houses, have had a great life, have travelled, have three beautiful children and, we also have a lifestyle as well.
Those who have medical reasons for not being able to have children don’t fall into this equation.
But as I say to all those who make that decision (mostly, on a purely selfish basis) “I wonder where they’d be today if their parents had the same attitude”? It’s an end-statement … but they’re more than happy to adopt and raise one, or two, or three dogs and treat them (and act) as if they’re human beings. Oh dear.

Gregg Heldon9:42 am 19 Jan 25

Still making judgement call, aren’t you, which is what this article is about, and what we have had as well.
You are digging your own grave with every repeat of your original post.
You’re happy with your choice. Let others be happy with their choice.

As a bloke myself, I’m glad I’m not one of these delicate flowers who burst into tears whenever a woman posts an opinion. It’s funny how many of these same petals want to bang on about “freedom”….just not anyone else’s.

People should be free to make their own choices and those choices are really not anyone’s business. That’s what actual freedom looks like.

For those worried about population decline, maybe fixing some of the issues around why people are choosing not to have children might actually help…you know, wealth inequality, housing affordability, climate etc.

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Woodrow Wilkins6:43 pm 15 Jan 25

“wealth inequality, housing affordability”
I see. Well I don’t have a university degree and it took me until my late 20’s to even establish a footing in life. But one thing I knew for sure, with a glimmer of opportunity, I would make something of myself. That opportunity came along and I ran with it. Plenty of people I know had more opportunities in life, well before I did, and still don’t own a house and are in debt up to their eyeballs. When we bought our first house in the mid-2000’s, on the measly salary I was on (and that my partner was on), jealous people thought I must have been doing something on the side. Yes, I was, I wasn’t spending and I was focusing damn hard on saving for a deposit. At that time, houses had literally doubled in value from a few years prior. Now we own four houses and guess what, during all this we had three children. Was it hard, did we have to make sacrifices? Absolutely. Still are. So many young people these days just want everything now, they want five seconds of gratification to feel good about themselves and typically that means spending money, wasting money. I see it all the time. A young girl I know just bought herself a puppy for $3,000, yet she complains that she doesn’t have any money. What the? A couple I knew years ago, here’s their situation at the time. She works in the medical industry and earns $100k and he’s a machinery operator earning $100k. They have one child, age 2yo. They want to buy a house for $480k. They had savings. They had been given pre-approval to buy a house for that value. Did they? No. What did they do, they went and bought a new car that they didn’t need and went on an overseas trip. There goes the deposit. Now, they’re still renting and complaining about how expensive housing is. To get what you want in life, you have to set goals, you have to make sacrifices, you have to commit to the long-term. Too many people these days lack those abilities.

Can I buy a paragraph?

TL;DR

From what I scanned, seems like you’ve missed the point and posted the usual tedious diatribe angry at young people for not being grateful (IDK what for tbh) complete with the obligatory irrelevant anecdote.

My point, the one you apparently missed is if people are concerned about the drop in population growth then addressing some of the issues that cause people to decide not to have children might alleviate that….wealth inequality is on the rise and one of those issues.

https://www.unsw.edu.au/newsroom/news/2024/04/wealth-gap-widening-new-report-acoss

Or we can bang on about what is was like “back in my day” because that will fix it…sure.

Woodrow Wilkins8:09 pm 15 Jan 25

“My point, the one you apparently missed is if people are concerned about the drop in population growth”
Oh, that was your point in all that dribble?
“and posted the usual tedious diatribe angry at young people for not being grateful”. Not just young people, son.
“wealth inequality is on the rise and one of those issues”. Interesting, I was in that category also, until I did something about it.
“Or we can bang on about what is was like “back in my day” because that will fix it…sure”. What, just 20 years ago? Just as many obstacles for me back then, son. What will go a long way to fixing it, is people stop feeling sorry for themselves, stop living selfish lives with their pursuit of ‘5 seconds of gratification’, set long-term goals and focus on achieving them (regardless of the sacrifices or time it takes). But hey, I guess they can just go on YouTube and create a few stupid videos and hope that millions watch it, so they can cash in. Didn’t have those opportunities back in my day … albeit, only 20 years ago!

Incidental Tourist8:20 pm 15 Jan 25

@Woodrow Wilkins – well said.

@Seano – when one’s life “are really not anyone’s business” this is called loneliness.

“Use’t live in shoebox in middle of road.”

No-one has begrudged you your choices, Woodrow Wilkins. You wish to judge and even to dictate to others based on your vision of your own self-importance.

@Woodrow Wilkins apparently we still can’t buy a paragraph or engage with the point.

Your whiny woe-is-me analogies are meaningless here, mate. The data (some of which you can view in the article I linked) is clear. Wealth inequality is on the rise, and one of the reasons people are choosing not to have kids is how hard it is becoming financially. If we want to address population decline, we have to address issues like this, not shake fists at clouds and whinge about how hard you had it back in the day.

Until you can engage with the actual issue I’m ignoring the tedium.

@Incidental Tourist it wasn’t well said but I’m not surprised you would think so.

“when one’s life “are really not anyone’s business” this is called loneliness.” yeah, nah…it’s not. It’s weird that the far right will constantly bang on about freedom but are in reality desperate to stick their noses into other people’s business.

@Denizkoy – well said.

@Incidental Tourist
I imagine a lot of people would choose your “loneliness”, over being part of a circle of judgmental prats.

Woodrow Wilkins12:43 pm 16 Jan 25

@Seano
“Until you can engage with the actual issue I’m ignoring the tedium”.
Right back at you kiddo. Your position wasn’t even relevant anyway. I addressed your weak points of wealth inequality and housing affordability. As for ‘climate’, what, so someone doesn’t want to have a child only to replace it with a dog (or two, or three)? Well that doesn’t make any sense.

@Woodrow You didn’t address anything though champ.

That’s the point.

“As for ‘climate’, what, so someone doesn’t want to have a child only to replace it with a dog (or two, or three)? Well that doesn’t make any sense.”

OH look another banal and meaningless analogy.

Unless you’re interested in looking at root causes (and we do that by looking at data and evidence not by making up dumb stories) you’ve got nothing to contribute but the stereotypical old man shakes fist at cloud.

Woodrow Wilkins10:02 am 18 Jan 25

@Seano
Hang on, did you say you weren’t going to respond? Hmm, do you often compromise your standards? Unlike you, I have standards and the goal posts don’t move.
Root causes. Hey champ, those same root causes existed 25 years ago. Wake up. If you want to talk about root causes, you haven’t been intelligence enough to raise the other monkey in the room – the attitude of entitlement, selfishness, ‘I want it now’, I don’t want my life to be burdened by having children because I want to get in massive debt travelling overseas and sipping lattés all day, then complain why I don’t have enough money to buy a house. Time to smell the roses, son. I faced the same issues 25 years ago, the root causes haven’t changed, what’s changed is that R-word … Resilience. Little of that around these days.

Woodrow Wilkins10:31 am 18 Jan 25

@Denizkoy
“dictate to others based on your vision of your own self-importance”
Oh, you mean all the entitled latté sippers who have loads of ‘confidence’ but have achieved nothing? Talk themselves up but are hollow shells? If you want to label anyone with ‘self-importance’, look around at the recent generations.
But again, I’ll get back to the initial point I made. To those who have decided not to have children I say this “I wonder where they’d be today if their parents had the same attitude”. It’s an end-statement.

Woodrow Wilkins10:55 am 18 Jan 25

@JustSaying
“would choose your “loneliness”, over being part of a circle of judgmental prats”
Are you lonely? It’s OK, plenty of pretentious, entitled people to sip lattés with, to bitch and moan about the world and how hard it is for you all. Off you go now and spend $20k on a holiday, come back a get a loan for a sports car, then wonder why you can’t buy a house.

@Woodrow Wilkins
No – I am not lonely. Far from it, I have quite an engaging and free thinking circle of friends.

However, given the choice between loneliness, and associating with judgmental prats, who sanctimoniously espouse their christian right dogma, then I choose Incidental Tourist’s jaundiced definition of loneliness every time.

Incidental Tourist4:49 pm 15 Jan 25

“Every woman has an important role … Every woman should be celebrated” – how about men? She says “men are treated differently”. By whom? By feminists? This “mental health practitioner” “needs a reality check” to “shift” her “narrative to recognise this” problem in its entirety impacting both men and women.

Obviously there are many reasons of why people cannot have children. Many have medical or other circumstances outside of their control. They need support and assistance. But I also think unhinged feminism plays its growing role in why some women can’t form deep, respectful relationship with men, love and be loved, form and cherish family with children. Instead they “dragged herself through a pressured and painful journey” of their life.

“how about men?”….tedious.

I suspect most of this post is you telling on yourself.

Woodrow Wilkins8:28 pm 15 Jan 25

“But I also think unhinged feminism plays its growing role in why some women can’t form deep, respectful relationship with men, love and be loved, form and cherish family with children. Instead they “dragged herself through a pressured and painful journey” of their life.”
I agree. It certainly has muddied the water. The path I’ve seen women lay for themselves, wouldn’t have happened without those negative influences. What I hear women saying, the expectations they have, what they believe they deserve in life, how they should be treated. It’s a high standard they’ve set and it often leads to unfulfilling outcomes.

While Woodrow Wilkins’ wastes no time declaring his massive prejudices, it is a slower reading that betrays his reality of objectifying beliefs.

Woodrow Wilkins10:15 am 18 Jan 25

@Holocene
“it is a slower reading that betrays his reality of objectifying beliefs”
Says the person who’s solution is for a person/couple to prove their worth and put down a holding bond. LMFAO. Oh dear. And let me guess, that would also apply to those in the lower socioeconomic class? But hang on, they wouldn’t be able to afford that, so what, when only then have entitled, rich people, having/raising children? Your system is naive and flawed.
Working in the field of social services I can assure you, there are plenty of people/couples I know who are brilliant parents (who at face-value, you’d think otherwise) and conversely, I know people/couples who have plenty of money and have a great lifestyle, and their children are the biggest A-holes I know.

It’s not selfish to not want children.

Quite the opposite. From an environmental point of view the most damaging thing you can do to this planet is to increase it’s human population.

Woodrow Wilkins5:34 pm 15 Jan 25

One child at a time, hey? Wow, to not want to have children in order to protect the planet. Oh dear. I know people who have actively chosen not to have children and at least three times a year they’re jet-setting around the world and over-consume every day. Seems environmentally damaging to me. And then, let’s not forget about the abundance of animals they own who are polluting the planet, to make up for those children they didn’t have. It’s just transference then justification of the pursuit, without making any difference. And typically at the core of not wanting to have children, is pure selfishness. Makes me wish the parents of these people also chose not to have children.

Capital Retro9:41 am 15 Jan 25

People who want to have children should be vetted by the government first.
If they are found to be suitable as parents they should then lodge a $50,000 bond to cover the problems their offspring may cause to the wider community because the parents fail to control them.
Part of the money could be used for public education, too.
When the children turn 18 the money can be refunded or paid to the now mature child to help with further education.

A further, much larger, bond should be lodged on retirement into social commentary.

Capital Retro2:53 pm 15 Jan 25

More details please Halocene.

“People who want to have children should be vetted by the government first.”….if you want to live in a totalitarian state I’m you’ll love it in China, you clearly aren’t happy here. Off you go.

Woodrow Wilkins6:21 pm 14 Jan 25

I wonder where you’d be today if your parents thought the same?

@Woodrow Wilkins
Your question is moronically rhetorical.

Oh duh – if her parents didn’t have children, she would not be here to make the comment. Do you have another shining example of your grasp of the inane to share with us?

Woodrow Wilkins2:35 pm 15 Jan 25

“Oh duh – if her parents didn’t have children, she would not be here to make the comment”. Exactly. Glad you pointed out the obvious. Then we wouldn’t have to be reading her pathetic selfish dribble.

@Woodrow Wilkins
“pathetic selfish dribble” … hmm sounds more like pot and kettle to me.

Woodrow Wilkins5:14 pm 15 Jan 25

“sounds more like pot and kettle to me”
Well you call it whatever you want but the FACT remains, it can’t be disputed. If her parents thought the same, she wouldn’t be in existence. Worth a thought. I can assure you, every person I have ever met who has actively chosen not to have children is a ‘special’ kind of person and at the core of them, is selfishness.

Woodrow Wilkins, what is special about your accidental existence?

Your parents had no intention of having _you_. That was left to chance in one of about 64 trillion possibilities. What of the other 63 trillion 999 billion 999 million 999 thousand and 999 they did not have?

Your “point” is really quite silly, saying most about your prejudices.

Woodrow Wilson
I’m not disputing it – it’s just irrelevant because it didn’t happen.
But OK – you are one of those people who likes to tell others how they should live their lives. Noted.

Woodrow Wilkins7:58 pm 15 Jan 25

Your emotions are causing you to lose track of your pathetic argument. Stay focused.
“what is special about your accidental existence”.
My parents were married and consciously chose to have children. Not sure how that could be a accident. You must be reflecting on your own existence.
“Your parents had no intention of having _you_”.
Wow, that’s amazing how you know that. Are you the BS whisperer?
But you know what, even if that were true it would have no bearing on my existence, what I think of my existence, or why I chose to have children.
But talking about accidents, does a person consciously not drive to avoid not having an accident? No. But accidents happen all the time. Does it stop them from driving thereafter if they did? No. Millions upon millions of vehicle accidents happen daily around the world, but people continue to drive. Even those pretentious, selfish SINKS and DINKS. It’s all about chance. Do they question why they drive? Do they question why they buy (conceive) a vehicle? But look at me, I’m digressing like you !!
But of course, you’d have to ask yourself why a person being conceived as an ‘accident’ would even cause them to reflect on their existence? Those two things are mutually exclusive. The cause/meaning/intention of why a person was conceived has no relevance to the topic of people choosing not to have children. Not from the ‘excuses’ I hear anyway.
You asked me what’s special about my existence. Loving life, loving experiences, loving people and, importantly, loving the fact I have three beautiful children and that I brought them into the world because I had love to give them and wanted to give them.
It’s a shame these days that too many people love themselves, and oh boy, don’t you know it when you come across one of those people. Seems I’ve just met another one.

Woodrow Wilkins8:53 pm 15 Jan 25

“you are one of those people who likes to tell others how they should live their lives”.
Correction. They’ve chosen how to live their lives – selfishly!! And yes, it is noted … it’s very noticeable.

Woodrow Wilkins7:39 am 16 Jan 25

“you are one of those people who likes to tell others how they should live their lives. Noted”
Correction. They’ve already chosen how to live their lives – selfishly. Noted, it’s noticeable!!

Woodrow Wilkins
True that – they have made their life choice and they own that choice. The judgment of sanctimonious doctrinaires is irrelevant.

Nevertheless, one could equally say that those who have children are also being selfish – they could adopt and equally provide a loving environment for raising an orphan. Perhaps that “love you have to give” is just a pathological need to ensure the continuation of your biological blood line.

Woodrow Wilkins’ wall of text declares comprehensively that he has no clue about contingency.

He still wishes to judge and to impose on others.

Woodrow Wilkins12:35 pm 16 Jan 25

“they could adopt and equally provide a loving environment”
Oh dear. A ‘hypothetical’ from someone who clearly doesn’t have a clue. Do you have any idea of the complexity of adopting a child? Furthermore, two people who are committed to each other, want to have children and can make their own children will typically take that route. That’s not selfish, that’s natural !! But hey, keep trying with your incoherent dribble.
“Perhaps that “love you have to give” is just a pathological need”.
Wow, someone has taken a psych 101 course and it attempting to sound smart. Hint. You’re not.
“to ensure the continuation of your biological blood line”
Doesn’t even factor into the equation, my friend. So it must be just pure, genuine love. Clearly something that a psychopath like you doesn’t possess.

@Woodrow Wilkins
Yes – you are right, I habe no knowledge whatsoever of the adoption process. I was merely making a ludicrous counter to your ludicrous generalisation that couples who decide not to have children are selfish.

And thank you for confirming your status as a sanctimonious doctrinaire – as evidenced by your description of me as a psychopath – merely because I challenge your self-serving stance against those who make their own life choices, rather than follow your edict.

It is clear that you are incapable of accepting alternative views to your own ethos -possibly emanating from unquestioning adherence to christian right dogma?

Woodrow Wilkins10:39 am 18 Jan 25

@Justsaying
“one could equally say that those who have children are also being selfish – they could adopt and equally provide a loving environment for raising an orphan”
Good point. So if the entitled latté sippers can adopt and raise a dog (or two, or three), why can’t they adopt a human being? Raise an orphan?

Woodrow Wilkins10:49 am 18 Jan 25

@JustSaying
“what is special about your accidental existence”, “Your parents had no intention of having _you_”, “as evidenced by your description of me as a psychopath”
Interesting. One of those people, hey, who can vomit whatever words they want, but cradles in the corner when it’s served back at them and acts like the victim? Got it.

@Woodrow Wilkins
LMAO … I’m not a victim and I certainly have no need or desire to cradle in the corner, when dealing with the likes of you, who are slaves to christian right dogma.

Woodrow Wilkins11:29 am 18 Jan 25

@JustSaying
“possibly emanating from unquestioning adherence to christian right dogma?”
Wrong, yet again, but keep trying. That ‘psych 101’ class really has you channeling Freud. You go girl.
I’ll go back to what I said initially of those people who choose not to have children “I wonder where those people would be today if their parents had the same attitude”? It’s an end-statement.

@Woodrow Wilkins
PS Perhaps check your hysteria levels, then review who actually posted two of those three ‘vomit(ed) words’ you attribute to me.

@Woodrow Wilkins
What if your parents had never met? What if you were born with two X chromosones instead of one X and one Y? Or born infertile? What if you were not a sanctimonious, judgmental doctrinaire?

We could hypothesise (over a latte for you and flat white for me), on these and many other conjectural questions, including your speculative fantasy proposition, but they are all moot. They did not happen.

I prefer to deal with the real world in which I live, which fortunately, is an enlightened Australia, where women have reproductive rights and control over their own bodies – and more fortunately, pontificating prats are constrained to airing their proscriptive dogma, on forums like this, and don’t get to dictate to others.

Good for now Nature will wipe out the bearers of the defective genes.

Ho hum. So what. Another self centred person not prepared to put in the hard yards and love to create and raise our next Aussie born generation. Nothing new here in a country with fertility well below reolacement. But sad.

@bob9000
Ho hum. Another mansplaining misogynist.

Woodrow Wilkins6:31 pm 14 Jan 25

Absolutely. As I say to people like this “I wonder where you’d be today if your parents had the same attitude”?

Capital Retro6:33 pm 14 Jan 25

Hey JS, great alliteration there.
Not sure what it means, perhaps woke translation of “male chauvinist pig”?

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

The Colin can’t point out where though, methinks.

I’m a childless woman and it wasn’t even my choice (thanks cancer!). Despite that, I’ve been called selfish for not having children. Over opinionated people need to pull in their heads. There are multiple reasons why someone is childless. It does not make them a less valuable member of the community. And more importantly, it’s none of your business.

GrumpyGrandpa8:47 pm 14 Jan 25

Megsy, I’m sorry to read that cancer robbed you of the choice and that people have accused you of being selfish, for not having children. I expect if they learnt of your cancer, they would have hung their heads in shame.

We are in our mid-sixties, have three children and only have one grandchild.

We are very careful not to raise the topic or pressure them. The other grandparents are in the same situation as us. They also only have one grandchild.

While we agree and accept that these things are not our decisions to make, there is a huge emotional yearning for us,
as we age, to fulfil that role of dottering grandparents to a tribe of little ones. (In my case that opportunity might be limited due to cancer).

Kindest regards.

I respect you Choice to not have children and there may be many reasons. Over population, the desperate state of the planet or the oldie of i cant afford to have children. Not everyone wants to rely on the public and taxes to bring their kids up. That’s my reasoning as a man

Capital Retro10:17 am 14 Jan 25

For what it’s worth, this article rivals the announcement that John Farnham is about to become a grandfather.

Or that one of the billionaire Kardashians donated $2,500 to the firefighting effort in LA

Capital Retro6:30 pm 14 Jan 25

What’s the latest on Princess Kate?

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