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Lin Hatfield Dodds wants to get into politics AND keep the V8?

By I-filed - 26 August 2011 35

Interesting following Lin Hatfield Dodds on her determined trek to get into parliament by any means.

She appears to be nailing her colours to the Labor mast now.

She was interviewed on radio this morning, praising Labor and the 2020 Summit to the skies.

Not one mention of the party she was supposedly committed to from 2007 to immediately after losing last year!

Looks as though Ms Hatfield Dodds has realised the “running for the Greens but I’ll keep my V8 thanks” approach last time round has damaged her chances of election as a Green.

She appears to be repositioning herself cynically and strategically.

She sure must be determined – because praising the fiasco that was the 2020 Summit would be a very, very tough gig for anyone with a policy brain and a conscience.

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Lin Hatfield Dodds wants to get into politics AND keep the V8?
housebound 1:07 pm 26 Aug 11

Jim Jones said :

creative_canberran said :

Sean said :

Yeah, the nonsense about OMG SHE HAS A 4WD is a really really silly attempt at a smear. “Look, they don’t live up to our stereotypical strawmanning of their views, what a hypocrite!”

Need I remind you these are the people who are constantly crying for over $1billion to be spent on light rail while constantly saying how bad we are for using cars.

It has nothing to do with Green stereotypes, it has to do with what they preach yet don’t practice themselves. Will she give up the 4WD once we’ve installed light rail? Will she give it up if the VFT on the Eastern Seaboard goes ahead?

Utter bollocks.

Show me a Greens statement where they say “Australians shouldn’t drive cars”. The Greens are obviously in favour of trying to change transport patterns to be more environmentally friendly. To equate this with ‘herf derf cars are bad herf derf’ is so simplistic that you’d think that no one would have to point out the difference – you’d just assume that anyone with a barely functioning brain could figure it out for themselves. Sadly, this is obviously not the case.

As has been pointed out, the Greens get lampooned for failing to live up to crude caricatures of their policies: “Look, they don’t live up to our stereotypical strawmanning of their views.”

You’re both wrong. The Greens’ policies are clearly anti-car – you can’t reduce the number of cars on the road, the number of parking space in Molonglo (and so on) without affecting car ownership. But as JJ said, it is carefully worded and packaged as transport options.

But more philosphically, should a wanne-be Greens politcian drive a 4WD? That all depends on whether you think leaders should lead by better-than-example, or whether their private lifestyle choices and other personal decisions are irrelevant.

Jim Jones 12:53 pm 26 Aug 11

creative_canberran said :

Sean said :

Yeah, the nonsense about OMG SHE HAS A 4WD is a really really silly attempt at a smear. “Look, they don’t live up to our stereotypical strawmanning of their views, what a hypocrite!”

Need I remind you these are the people who are constantly crying for over $1billion to be spent on light rail while constantly saying how bad we are for using cars.

It has nothing to do with Green stereotypes, it has to do with what they preach yet don’t practice themselves. Will she give up the 4WD once we’ve installed light rail? Will she give it up if the VFT on the Eastern Seaboard goes ahead?

Utter bollocks.

Show me a Greens statement where they say “Australians shouldn’t drive cars”. The Greens are obviously in favour of trying to change transport patterns to be more environmentally friendly. To equate this with ‘herf derf cars are bad herf derf’ is so simplistic that you’d think that no one would have to point out the difference – you’d just assume that anyone with a barely functioning brain could figure it out for themselves. Sadly, this is obviously not the case.

As has been pointed out, the Greens get lampooned for failing to live up to crude caricatures of their policies: “Look, they don’t live up to our stereotypical strawmanning of their views.”

Jim Jones 12:47 pm 26 Aug 11

chewy14 said :

Jim Jones said :

Sean said :

Yeah, the nonsense about OMG SHE HAS A 4WD is a really really silly attempt at a smear. “Look, they don’t live up to our stereotypical strawmanning of their views, what a hypocrite!”

+1

Surprised that the usual suspects haven’t turned up here to play this card.

Gotcha politics based on ignorance rather than intelligent policy discussion.

So being a hypocrite is a good thing now?

Way to utterly miss the point.

Solidarity 12:41 pm 26 Aug 11

Isn’t it better (environmentally) if she keeps her current car rather than buying a new one anyway?

Unless she trades it for a used car, but what are the chances of that….

pajs 12:21 pm 26 Aug 11

The National Disability Insurance scheme comes out of the 2020 summit, and a lot of work since then. Would have been good to see more such things come out, but this is still good, I think.

creative_canberran 12:15 pm 26 Aug 11

Sean said :

Yeah, the nonsense about OMG SHE HAS A 4WD is a really really silly attempt at a smear. “Look, they don’t live up to our stereotypical strawmanning of their views, what a hypocrite!”

Need I remind you these are the people who are constantly crying for over $1billion to be spent on light rail while constantly saying how bad we are for using cars.

It has nothing to do with Green stereotypes, it has to do with what they preach yet don’t practice themselves. Will she give up the 4WD once we’ve installed light rail? Will she give it up if the VFT on the Eastern Seaboard goes ahead?

Jim Jones 12:12 pm 26 Aug 11

I-filed said :

Jim Jones said :

Sean said :

Yeah, the nonsense about OMG SHE HAS A 4WD is a really really silly attempt at a smear. “Look, they don’t live up to our stereotypical strawmanning of their views, what a hypocrite!”

+1

Surprised that the usual suspects haven’t turned up here to play this card.

Gotcha politics based on ignorance rather than intelligent policy discussion.

What are those 2020 Summit outcomes then?

I don’t know – perhaps you could enlighten me?

I’m not a supporter of Ms Hatfield Dodds – but that has nothing to do with the fact that the ‘herf derf but she drives a 4WD herf derf’ line is stupid.

bryansworld 12:04 pm 26 Aug 11

I-filed said :

Jim Jones said :

Sean said :

Yeah, the nonsense about OMG SHE HAS A 4WD is a really really silly attempt at a smear. “Look, they don’t live up to our stereotypical strawmanning of their views, what a hypocrite!”

+1

Surprised that the usual suspects haven’t turned up here to play this card.

Gotcha politics based on ignorance rather than intelligent policy discussion.

What are those 2020 Summit outcomes then?

+1

And driving a unnecesarily large Urban Assault Truck without the rural/recreational need does indicate *at least* an indifference to other road users and the environment. Not what I want in a progressive politician.

bryansworld 11:59 am 26 Aug 11

I-filed said :

Jim Jones said :

Sean said :

Yeah, the nonsense about OMG SHE HAS A 4WD is a really really silly attempt at a smear. “Look, they don’t live up to our stereotypical strawmanning of their views, what a hypocrite!”

+1

Surprised that the usual suspects haven’t turned up here to play this card.

Gotcha politics based on ignorance rather than intelligent policy discussion.

What are those 2020 Summit outcomes then?

+1

And driving a unnecesarily large Urban Assault Vehicle without the rural/recreational need does indicate a potential f*** you and f*** the environment attitude…or at least indifference. Is this what we want in a political leader?

chewy14 11:58 am 26 Aug 11

Jim Jones said :

Sean said :

Yeah, the nonsense about OMG SHE HAS A 4WD is a really really silly attempt at a smear. “Look, they don’t live up to our stereotypical strawmanning of their views, what a hypocrite!”

+1

Surprised that the usual suspects haven’t turned up here to play this card.

Gotcha politics based on ignorance rather than intelligent policy discussion.

So being a hypocrite is a good thing now?

housebound 11:54 am 26 Aug 11

We thought she always was Labor, until the election.

I-filed 11:53 am 26 Aug 11

Jim Jones said :

Sean said :

Yeah, the nonsense about OMG SHE HAS A 4WD is a really really silly attempt at a smear. “Look, they don’t live up to our stereotypical strawmanning of their views, what a hypocrite!”

+1

Surprised that the usual suspects haven’t turned up here to play this card.

Gotcha politics based on ignorance rather than intelligent policy discussion.

What are those 2020 Summit outcomes then?

Jim Jones 11:35 am 26 Aug 11

Sean said :

Yeah, the nonsense about OMG SHE HAS A 4WD is a really really silly attempt at a smear. “Look, they don’t live up to our stereotypical strawmanning of their views, what a hypocrite!”

+1

Surprised that the usual suspects haven’t turned up here to play this card.

Gotcha politics based on ignorance rather than intelligent policy discussion.

Sean 11:16 am 26 Aug 11

Yeah, the nonsense about OMG SHE HAS A 4WD is a really really silly attempt at a smear. “Look, they don’t live up to our stereotypical strawmanning of their views, what a hypocrite!”

nice_enough 11:14 am 26 Aug 11

As a lax Green member I was very disappointed in Lin. She seems to over simplify issues and has no real breadth in understanding about anything except welfare issues. Following her on Facebook its pretty obvious she is a rich preacher type playing the poor victim card.

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