Local kids going the knuckle

I would say it made me afraid of rejection from people, and how it affected me is that I will talk to anybody if they talk to me first but I will rarely take the initiative. I really love being with people, but I have to feel safe that they like me and want me around first.

looks like the video’s been taken down, oh noes.

Looxury….I used to lie awake at night dreaming about lesbians. (With thanks to Monty Python)

Now, I don’t have to dream (With thanks to Fyshwick video).

When I was at school the prefects painted us in honey and then threw us naked into a pit with the school bear.

What, no lesbians were involved?

Your school had a Bear? Looxury, all we could afford was a School Skink…

The trick is noticing it on Youtube and getting the school\headmaster to exercise the Youtube Terms of Service on the video poster, and take action on those committing the actions, all without having either WIN or any other media\website notice it first.

(Really, if you know how to cross-reference information, assume that people use similar nicknames across multiple websites, and consider Facebook a tremendous social resource, you can nail most things on their creators…)

There are three Marist & Dara kids who probably owe me a favour.

I hope it does make the news and that the bastard in the cap on the bus is caught and charged with assault.

Relating to bullying.. this might set an interesting precedent.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24628343-29277,00.html

Some of that video would seriously constitute assult. Odds on this will be a major story on WIN TV news by the end of the week:

* Greens and and Liberals will be demanding an investigation into school/youth violence and bullying

* The Minister for Education and his departmental representatives will be talking the issue down as overhyped and sensationalised via the internet.

* The kids that assulted other kids in this video will be given a stern talking to and slap on the wrist and in another 5-10 years when they end up back in the court system will once again be given a stern talking to and sent home with a good behaviour bonds.

Same thing happened at St Francis Xavier College a few years ago. Some kids had a fight and it was posted on YouTube. It’s nothing new.

I still occasionally have dreams about being bullied and the bullies at school – and how much they sucked. Not to say that my waking hours are spent traumatised from school bullying (Maybe Im mentally stronger) but they do fairly fcuk you up for years afterwards.

I daresay that some kids who copped it worse than me are now 10-15 years down the track and still feeling the wake of torment.

That’s a serious assault on the bus. Why didn’t the bus driver do something? Schoolkids are in the driver’s care aren’t they?

Good on you, Dante. I agree. You and I determine what we tolerate as a society. One person can make a difference.

Yeah, nice one mate. I’ve had the pleasure of doing similar in the past. It’s amazing how weak and cowardly most bullies are (and that’s after saying that I have been guilty of being a bully when I was younger).

Good on you, Dante. I agree. You and I determine what we tolerate as a society. One person can make a difference.

All bullying is terrible. I endured it in school, being two years younger than all kids in your year makes you an easy target, and I don’t ever tolerate it as a result these days.

I gave a bunch of St. Eddie’s monkeys a serve on a bus one day, they were laying into a kid who had apparently left Eddie’s to get away from this group’s torment.

I asked what the hell they thought they were doing and suggested sarcastically that they were such big men. The deflated look on their faces was priceless and they all started laying into each other instead, trying to lay the blame for their loss of face.

Ah, bullies. They’re just as insecure as the rest of us.. you’ve just got to know what makes them tick =P

Fighting is no joke and can end very, very badly. Have you seen what happens a few seconds after someone is king hit? They fall over, with nothing to break their fall, no arms out to stop their skull from impacting on the pavement, just dead weight splattering onto the concrete. Worst case scenario that person ends up dead as a result of some pretty intense trauma and the agressor on some pretty serious charges, or someone’s mother has to feed and change a vegetable for the rest of their life.

Sure fighting feeds into our primal instincts and gets us all excited in one way or another but let’s evolve people, let’s learn from this stuff.

Skidbladnir said :

So the six months before high-school, asked if I could be taught how to fight properly (apparently I wasn’t all that impressed by what judo had taught me).

PCYC boxing class worked a treat

From memory, Judo was a watered-down version of Ju-Jitsu that was invented after WWII because the occupying Americans were concerned about the effects of Ju-Jitsu which was too rough/brutal. It would probably be handy to have some knowledge of Judo which would make the more-useful boxing skills quite formidable.

However, my friend at uni who taught me what he termed “proper” Tae-kwon-do (not “screaming”) always reminded me, a good big man will always beat a good little man despite what you see in the movies, so one’s feet are the best fighting weapon.. .to run away.

Some of that bullying is terrible. As one who was both bullied and being a bully when younger, it makes me sick. Never did I bully like that (no that any type is acceptable), and they need to be identified and dealt with. As for the people having a bit of an organised battle, go for it, as long as you are prepared for the risks as opposed to walking away from trouble.

Yeah yeah I know. I just get really protective of the little kids that can’t defend themselves and are permanently damaged by these bullies. There is a system that encourages them to be better – but there are too many of them out there and some slip through the net. I’d rather make the little boy feel better by standing up for him then worry about the feelings of the bastard punching and kicking the shit out of him.

What bothers me most about this is all the wasted opportunity’s you see in these videos. Such a shame

You need to use your legs fella’s!… a front kicks works wonders 😉

I really hate bullying, having been picked on myself at school.

One time there was this group of kids getting off the bus picking on a little Indian guy. I couldn’t stand it, so I asked them what the hell they thought they were doing, but the little guy was kind of embarrassed about it and my kids were terrified!

I walked off trying to look dignified with a baby in my arms and the two older children hanging off my legs like limpets. (Frankly it was very hard to walk at all).

I do think that I made the bullies think about what they were doing when they were forced to actually defend their behaviour. The ringleader did look a bit sheepish and seemed to want me to have a better opinion of him. So maybe it did some good. Who knows?

No sands its not too hard, its difficult. Better to help with what the kids can do, than tell them what they can’t. Maybe that kid could be encourage to be a footballer, or a policeman or both, than be told he should stop betting the helpless. Juvie (as called for on RA especially) is just continuing the circle of abuse. What Juvie does do is remove a child from the community. What we do with them in juvie effects them when they come out.

Skid I’m sure Ive seen that movie

Yeah, I know. Violence breeds violence (except in the rare case where the shit comes from a loving home and has never had a finger laid on them). Then how do you stop them? Putting them in juvie just makes them worse and gives them more access to the ‘bad crowd’. Ugh, too hard.

Time out.

dexi said :

Guess again he will just get his mates or a knife.

Touché.

Tooks said :

Maybe they should learn how to fight before embarrassing themselves by recording it.

I was a small kid in primary school and routinely got picked on by more than one solid kid.
So the six months before high-school, asked if I could be taught how to fight properly (apparently I wasn’t all that impressed by what judo had taught me).

PCYC boxing class worked a treat, in that the first person at highschool who thought I looked like an easy mark discovered that little guys can move quick, fight viciously when they’ve had enough, and some of them know how to hit hard.
Going from being the shortest guy in Yr7 to one of the tallest guys in yr8 and staying there meant my school-fighting days were short but spectacular.

If you hunt around, you can find whole clusters of videos devoted to fighting for the purposes of uploading them.

Guess again he will just get his mates or a knife.

Unfortunately, sometimes it is all these pricks understand.

“If I attack an uninterested and cowering kid on a bus, I’ll get my head bashed in. Guess I won’t do it then.”

Sands, it would just continue the circle of violence.

You just beat me to it Cameron. I’d love to be let loose on that mf. Of course that would probably only serve to make the poor kid more of a target.

How bout the poor bugger on the bus? All the others seemed to be two people willing to ‘have at thee’ – the poor kid on the bus was just set upon and clearly didn’t want a bar of it. Wonder if the bus driver noticed/heard anything.

I know two boys who have been told firmly all about being a dikhead. Yet the eldest is always complaining about his brother’s dikheadness. Go figure. What I can’t fault is the talent and creativity of his dikness. It’s just superbly produced. Oh, and they can all touch type like demons, spell and read.

ant said :

Come off it, these parents haven’t even taken the trouble to chat to their kids abotu not being d!ckheads, let alone how to post decent footage.

How do you know?

Come off it, these parents haven’t even taken the trouble to chat to their kids abotu not being d!ckheads, let alone how to post decent footage.

“With a bit of luck at least one bully’s parents will be having a chat to their child tonight.”

They could also give some advice on holding the camera still. The importance of titles and credits. A bit on narrative. Maybe a pointer to some good freeware sites for some good editing software.

ant said :

And these kids are “our future”. ye gods. Are there more of them, or is it just these films and things mean more of us are seeing them?

I think there are more fights than there used to be due to the ease of recording them, then posting them on the internet.

I have seen quite a few of these types of clips where the sole purpose of the fight is to post it on the net.

It’s called the “look at me, look at me!” generation.

Pity they didn’t spend more time learning to read and write properly, rather than running around thinking they are some kingsh1t gangsta from Detroit……

This is nothing new, and the fights look relatively tame compared to some that I remember from the schoolyard days.

And these kids are “our future”. ye gods. Are there more of them, or is it just these films and things mean more of us are seeing them?

Meh, I saw fights when I was a kid, the big thing was we didn’t have mobiles with Camera’s to record it (ah, who am I kidding we didn’t even have mobile phones).

The thing with the web is that anyone can post stuff up, and thanks to the speeds of the modern day internet finding, downloading and playing this stuff is easier than ever, I doubt that there are more fights than before, infact it may even be less as the odds are you lose, it’ll be posted up all over the web.

Maybe they should learn how to fight before embarrassing themselves by recording it.

Seriously though, this is so common now and it’s often a bully whose friends will record him (or her) beating the snot out of some poor kid. The definition of tough has certainly changed since I went to school.

I don’t think highlighting a story condones it or necessarily encourages it either. They didn’t look like they needed much encouragement, and as johnboy said, who hasn’t watched boys have their noses bloodied in the schoolyard?

AussieGal83 said :

Yeah, and highlighting it as a story in no way condones it or encourages it…
Nice one RiotAct. 😛

Just shining a light.

With a bit of luck at least one bully’s parents will be having a chat to their child tonight.

Yeah, and highlighting it as a story in no way condones it or encourages it…
Nice one RiotAct. 😛

Of course, but just follow the link…

Mr Evil said :

Yeah, awesome!

Send them all to Iraq.

When you’re wounded and left on Afghanistan’s plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An’ go to your Gawd like a soldier.

– The Young British Soldier.

I haven’t watched the video but i can tell you some of the stuff i have seen in civic latley has been far far more than a little bit of school yard biffo. I saw one girl get lynched by 3 other kids male and female and it sure didn’t look like your average school yard scuffle there was no restraint and luckily a security guard stepped in because if he had not you could guarantee that somebody would have been leaving on a stretcher.

Yeah, awesome!

Send them all to Iraq.

I think we all need to band together and pitch in to get these kids camera-phones with higher resolution.

Yee-eaah, biatches! That sh!t be illin’!

White trash at it’s finest.