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Mt Ginini – Air Traffic Control Building

By Lyons75 - 5 September 2011 15

On the weekend we took the long and slow drive to Mt Ginini and saw an amazing view on a clear clear day. On the top of the Mountain we saw the Air Traffic Control Building, which I later read was built in the 60s.

Subsequent to that I read some references that it might have been staffed at times and staff living up there. Has anyone got any stories or references to it?

I reckon there would have been some long cold winters up there!!

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Mt Ginini – Air Traffic Control Building
Pandy 10:27 pm 06 Sep 11

Darkfalz said :

creative_canberran said :

It’s not Air Traffic Control. It’s a VHF relay maintained by Airservices Australia as part of the AERIS Network. The building has generators and equipment but is automated.

Not true, we have tertiary VHF there which is used by ATC. It is not staffed obviously, except for PIs and maintenance (there are facilities there for techs to stay the night, as it is remote).

Cosy beds for two? heh heh

creative_canberran 8:13 pm 06 Sep 11

Rawhide Kid Part3 said :

I think you’ll fine that the ACT has part of their TRN radio network up there.

That’s right, one of three permanent UHF repeater towers in the ACT (the other two on top of Isaacs Ridge).

molongloid said :

Limiting public vehicular access south of Mt Franklin comes from the NSW management plan for the Bimberi Nature Reserve from 1997, which seems to be current. The ACT’s Namadgi plan from 2010 doesn’t mention it though and talks quite positively about visitor access. The road goes through both parks however. I hope that the more recent report is a sign that objectives have changed.

Also, to improve firefighting access the ACT is upgrading the Mt Franklin Rd to the Mt Ginini car park this year. So it’s not like the road is being run down.

@creative_canberran, are you in the know?

The public sections of the Mt Franklin War (F1-3) will be upgraded to Float Standard, which ensures safe passage for 2WD vehicles and gentler grades. Most of it will involve maintenance within the existing footprint of the road. There only one point at which the road will be substantially reengineered.

Vast bulk of the work is on sections F4 and F5 and Cotter Hut Road, which are being upgraded to 4×4 Tanker Standard but don’t have public access.

Project was due to be completed this month actually, not sure how progress is going.

Rawhide Kid Part3 1:34 pm 06 Sep 11

I think you’ll fine that the ACT has part of their TRN radio network up there.

Mothy 12:02 pm 06 Sep 11

welkin31 said :

Interesting article and comments – of course there is another reason to keep access open to Mt Ginini and that is the BoM weather instruments. Does anybody have a photo showing the BoM instruments ?

Speaking of which, Canberra weather radar offline since Sunday?

molongloid 11:02 am 06 Sep 11

welkin31 said :

Interesting article and comments – of course there is another reason to keep access open to Mt Ginini and that is the BoM weather instruments. Does anybody have a photo showing the BoM instruments ?

I’ll put some Ginini photos from the last 5 years or so up somewhere tonight. Including photos taken through the fence of the BoM stuff at http://g.co/maps/vvr8

RiotFrog 9:11 am 06 Sep 11

A couple of photos of the area, including the amazing views form the top, taken earlier this year: https://www.dropbox.com/gallery/20145853/1/Ginini?h=f08502

welkin31 9:11 am 06 Sep 11

Interesting article and comments – of course there is another reason to keep access open to Mt Ginini and that is the BoM weather instruments. Does anybody have a photo showing the BoM instruments ?

KB1971 8:38 am 06 Sep 11

Molongloid, on my recent ride to Cotter hut I witnessed that they are keeping the tracks in good condition for fire accesss. There had been quite a bit of works on the track up from Ororral with bulldozer marks everywhere. They had even re-done a crossing over a creek with a new causeway and new drainage. The tracks are in extremly good condition, so much so that you could drive a normal car over them, you would only need a 4WD for the steep bits & the table drains.

The thing is, its not really hurting the environment having the tracks open & it gives people who are unable to hike or ride a bike a way of reaching the higher points of the ACT and enjoy the spectacular views.

molongloid 3:17 am 06 Sep 11

creative_canberran said :

An added note, the Management Plan for the Bimberi Reserve indicates that if the Airservices Australia facility is no longer required, the beacons will be demolished and relocated outside of the park. Subsequent to this and by negotiation between Airservices and the ACT Government, public vehicular access to the Mt Franklin Road will be terminated at a site within the nature reserve south of Mt Franklin.

KB1971 said :

It would be a shame for the gate to get closed, vehicular access is already extremely restricted in the Brindies.

I’d love it to stay open to Ginini. It’d save lugging radio gear a few extra kms for field days and competitions. See photos tagged ginini on flickr. Popular with amateur radio operators.

Limiting public vehicular access south of Mt Franklin comes from the NSW management plan for the Bimberi Nature Reserve from 1997, which seems to be current. The ACT’s Namadgi plan from 2010 doesn’t mention it though and talks quite positively about visitor access. The road goes through both parks however. I hope that the more recent report is a sign that objectives have changed.

Also, to improve firefighting access the ACT is upgrading the Mt Franklin Rd to the Mt Ginini car park this year. So it’s not like the road is being run down.

@creative_canberran, are you in the know?

EvanJames 10:38 pm 05 Sep 11

KB1971 said :

It would be a shame for the gate to get closed, vehicular access is already extremely restricted in the Brindies.

Yes, the Ginini carpark is really handy for access to Gingera. Makes it a pleasant, shortish walk.

I had no idea there was anything up on Ginini.

KB1971 9:30 pm 05 Sep 11

I have not worked up there but on one visit in the middle of winter there were icicles all around the building. The antennas were covered in horizontal icicles & there was a second cyclone fence made out of ice, it was cool. I think I have some pictures somewhere.

It would be a shame for the gate to get closed, vehicular access is already extremely restricted in the Brindies.

Darkfalz 7:16 pm 05 Sep 11

creative_canberran said :

It’s not Air Traffic Control. It’s a VHF relay maintained by Airservices Australia as part of the AERIS Network. The building has generators and equipment but is automated.

Not true, we have tertiary VHF there which is used by ATC. It is not staffed obviously, except for PIs and maintenance (there are facilities there for techs to stay the night, as it is remote).

creative_canberran 6:33 pm 05 Sep 11

FInally, though the installation is not air traffic control like those at airports or the ATCs in Sydney and Melbourne and are no manned, one of it’s functions is to relay communications between the ATCs and aircraft via a number of VHF transceivers on the mountain (which for trivia sake were made by Rhode and Schwarz)

creative_canberran 6:18 pm 05 Sep 11

An added note, the Management Plan for the Bimberi Reserve indicates that if the Airservices Australia facility is no longer required, the beacons will be demolished and relocated outside of the park. Subsequent to this and by negotiation between Airservices and the ACT Government, public vehicular access to the Mt Franklin Road will be terminated at a site within the nature reserve south of Mt Franklin.

The management plan has a definite undercurrent of annoyance about a Commonwealth agency needing the road by the ACT Government having to maintain it by itself.

creative_canberran 5:57 pm 05 Sep 11

It’s not Air Traffic Control. It’s a VHF relay maintained by Airservices Australia as part of the AERIS Network. The building has generators and equipment but is automated.

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