New TV dump in West Belconnen

how about they lock the gate

Deref said :

TAMSMediaRoom said :

TAMS urges Canberrans not to dump their old TVs and computers.

No, TAMS encourages Canberrans to illegally dump their old TVs and computers by making it difficult and perceptually expensive to dispose of them properly.

If you wanted to encourage them to dispose of them properly you’d make it easy and “free” by, say, having a regular kerbside pickup and increasing rates to cover the cost, making the cost essentially invisible.

You seem to have missed the memo that changed the meaning of the word “encourage”, it now means make all the other alternatives so expensive people will be forced to comply i.e. raising parking costs will encourage bus use, banning plastic bags will encourage recycling, taxing carbon will encourage polluters to stop (rolls eyes).

Personally I find if the tv is well positioned in the car a quick trip to the charity bins will see it on the ground and you out of there in no time as the door opening shields the actual dumping.

Civil disobedience rules 🙂

Come on Katy. The Federally funded TV dump was supposed ot be started last November. Oh yeah right. Who would want to miss out on all the revenue from people taking TVs to the dump for a fee.

The National Television and Computer Recycling Scheme involves a combination of government regulation and industry action to take responsibility for the collection and recycling of waste televisions, computers, printers and computer products.

http://www.environment.gov.au/settlements/waste/ewaste/index.html

‘Under the Scheme, householders and small business will be able to drop-off these items for free at designated access points, which may include permanent collection sites, take-back events or through a mail-back option. Collection services under the Scheme will be progressively rolled out by industry from 2012, expanding across metropolitan, regional and remote areas of Australia by the end of 2013’.

So when is this being implemented in Canberra to stop the dumping. One would have thought that to disourage that sort of behaviour it would be implemented sooner rather than later.

Is this the start of a TV dump, such as the old white goods dump at the back of fyshwick some years ago.

Jim Jones said :

cross said :

I see every dumped TV as an act of civil disobedience against a universally unpopular scam.

BWA AHAH A HA HAHAHA

Yeah, fight the power buddy.

Didn’t Rage Against the Machine do a song about dumped tvs?

cross said :

I see every dumped TV as an act of civil disobedience against a universally unpopular scam.

BWA AHAH A HA HAHAHA

Yeah, fight the power buddy.

cross said :

I was of the understanding the cost was to ensure the safe removal of the carcinogenic powder on the inside lining of the tube so I don’t know how they justify charging for lcd’s.The last tv I got rid was smashed to pieces with a sledge hammer in my garage and disposed of in the bin,thier is surprisingly very little to them.

Jim Jones said :

AnimosiTy said :

sad, but how much does the tip charge for tvs n computer monitors… I wish I had a money tree…

If you can afford to buy a new TV then you can afford to get rid of the old one.

This whole ‘the gummint is responsible because they won’t wipe my arse for me’ attitude is revolting.

I can afford a lot of things,being ripped off is not one of them and if your happy to accept everything that the gov’t and bureaucrats shove up your cleanly wiped arse more fool you.
As much as random dumping cannot be condoned I see every dumped TV as an act of civil disobedience against a universally unpopular scam.

Got to agree with this. Governments are supposed to be our representatives, not our parents. People who happily bend over and take everything from the government without thinking are a bigger problem than the ones dumping TVs, in my opinion.

I was of the understanding the cost was to ensure the safe removal of the carcinogenic powder on the inside lining of the tube so I don’t know how they justify charging for lcd’s.The last tv I got rid was smashed to pieces with a sledge hammer in my garage and disposed of in the bin,thier is surprisingly very little to them.

Jim Jones said :

AnimosiTy said :

sad, but how much does the tip charge for tvs n computer monitors… I wish I had a money tree…

If you can afford to buy a new TV then you can afford to get rid of the old one.

This whole ‘the gummint is responsible because they won’t wipe my arse for me’ attitude is revolting.

I can afford a lot of things,being ripped off is not one of them and if your happy to accept everything that the gov’t and bureaucrats shove up your cleanly wiped arse more fool you.
As much as random dumping cannot be condoned I see every dumped TV as an act of civil disobedience against a universally unpopular scam.

Gah! Wanniassa. High. I sometimes wonder how my life would have turned out if I hadn’t escaped from there at the end of yr 8.

Jethro said :

HenryBG said :

Jethro said :

Thumper said :

HenryBG said :

Is this a reflection of the government’s *waste* policy, or more a reflection on the *education* policy which produces pathetic, selfish, dishonest scumbags who think it’s OK to treat public spacees as a dumping grounds?

Both, one would suggest.

I’m not sure why you two decided to use this as an opportunity to have a go at public education.

You both clearly have little idea about the values being promoted in our public schools.

Actually, *I* do.

For example, children are being taught that the correct response to a teacher’s request to stop smoking on school grounds is “f#ck you”. Similarly, the same unimaginative response can be uttered from the back of the classroom in response to a teacher’s request that a noisy mobile phone conversation be terminated. In fact, demonstrating rude, vile, ill-mannered and obscene behaviour attracts no negative reinforcement whatsoever in the public system, quite the contrary – witness the 5-star Tertiary containment facility they’ve built for this rabble out at Hume…

Meanwhile, while the basics of discipline are completely neglected, standards are constantly revised downwards in order to have children *appear* to achieve average marks. Having spent the 80s trying to delete any understanding of grammar from society (with great success), they’ve spent the 90s trying to make spelling disappear. Children are reaching first year university and demonstrating they lack a basic grasp of literacy.
But – oh – they will have sat through umpteen “Welcome to country” ceremonies conducted by blow-ins from Cowra, and sundry other manifestation of leftist fantasy, so everything’s alright.

Perhaps this explains why enrolments have plummeted with barely half of children in the ACT now attending public schools.
Your “values” are being embraced by the bogan underclass (as a kind of daytime child-minding service) and a few soft-headed leftie fantasists.

Funny how your comment bears little to no resemblance with the reality I experienced working in the system for 5 years.

Actually it rings pretty true of my time at Wanniassa High as a student not too long ago.

Ian said :

Deref said :

TAMSMediaRoom said :

TAMS urges Canberrans not to dump their old TVs and computers.

No, TAMS encourages Canberrans to illegally dump their old TVs and computers by making it difficult and perceptually expensive to dispose of them properly.

No doubt that is true. but you still need to be a selfish, lazy turd to act on that encouragement by dumping them.

Most definitely.

Unfortunately there are a lot of selfish, lazy turds out there. Punitive fines would help to sort them out, but you have to catch them first.

HenryBG said :

Jethro said :

Thumper said :

HenryBG said :

Is this a reflection of the government’s *waste* policy, or more a reflection on the *education* policy which produces pathetic, selfish, dishonest scumbags who think it’s OK to treat public spacees as a dumping grounds?

Both, one would suggest.

I’m not sure why you two decided to use this as an opportunity to have a go at public education.

You both clearly have little idea about the values being promoted in our public schools.

Actually, *I* do.

For example, children are being taught that the correct response to a teacher’s request to stop smoking on school grounds is “f#ck you”. Similarly, the same unimaginative response can be uttered from the back of the classroom in response to a teacher’s request that a noisy mobile phone conversation be terminated. In fact, demonstrating rude, vile, ill-mannered and obscene behaviour attracts no negative reinforcement whatsoever in the public system, quite the contrary – witness the 5-star Tertiary containment facility they’ve built for this rabble out at Hume…

Meanwhile, while the basics of discipline are completely neglected, standards are constantly revised downwards in order to have children *appear* to achieve average marks. Having spent the 80s trying to delete any understanding of grammar from society (with great success), they’ve spent the 90s trying to make spelling disappear. Children are reaching first year university and demonstrating they lack a basic grasp of literacy.
But – oh – they will have sat through umpteen “Welcome to country” ceremonies conducted by blow-ins from Cowra, and sundry other manifestation of leftist fantasy, so everything’s alright.

Perhaps this explains why enrolments have plummeted with barely half of children in the ACT now attending public schools.
Your “values” are being embraced by the bogan underclass (as a kind of daytime child-minding service) and a few soft-headed leftie fantasists.

Funny how your comment bears little to no resemblance with the reality I experienced working in the system for 5 years.

Deref said :

TAMSMediaRoom said :

TAMS urges Canberrans not to dump their old TVs and computers.

No, TAMS encourages Canberrans to illegally dump their old TVs and computers by making it difficult and perceptually expensive to dispose of them properly.

No doubt that is true. but you still need to be a selfish, lazy turd to act on that encouragement by dumping them.

Jethro said :

Thumper said :

HenryBG said :

Is this a reflection of the government’s *waste* policy, or more a reflection on the *education* policy which produces pathetic, selfish, dishonest scumbags who think it’s OK to treat public spacees as a dumping grounds?

Both, one would suggest.

I’m not sure why you two decided to use this as an opportunity to have a go at public education.

You both clearly have little idea about the values being promoted in our public schools.

Actually, *I* do.

For example, children are being taught that the correct response to a teacher’s request to stop smoking on school grounds is “f#ck you”. Similarly, the same unimaginative response can be uttered from the back of the classroom in response to a teacher’s request that a noisy mobile phone conversation be terminated. In fact, demonstrating rude, vile, ill-mannered and obscene behaviour attracts no negative reinforcement whatsoever in the public system, quite the contrary – witness the 5-star Tertiary containment facility they’ve built for this rabble out at Hume…

Meanwhile, while the basics of discipline are completely neglected, standards are constantly revised downwards in order to have children *appear* to achieve average marks. Having spent the 80s trying to delete any understanding of grammar from society (with great success), they’ve spent the 90s trying to make spelling disappear. Children are reaching first year university and demonstrating they lack a basic grasp of literacy.
But – oh – they will have sat through umpteen “Welcome to country” ceremonies conducted by blow-ins from Cowra, and sundry other manifestation of leftist fantasy, so everything’s alright.

Perhaps this explains why enrolments have plummeted with barely half of children in the ACT now attending public schools.
Your “values” are being embraced by the bogan underclass (as a kind of daytime child-minding service) and a few soft-headed leftie fantasists.

Thumper said :

HenryBG said :

Is this a reflection of the government’s *waste* policy, or more a reflection on the *education* policy which produces pathetic, selfish, dishonest scumbags who think it’s OK to treat public spacees as a dumping grounds?

Both, one would suggest.

I’m not sure why you two decided to use this as an opportunity to have a go at public education.

You both clearly have little idea about the values being promoted in our public schools.

dtc said :

I wonder whether, overall, it costs the govt more to collect the dumped TVs from around the place than it would cost if they just accepted TVs for free, or for a much more nominal fee (eg $5). You can’t even give TVs away anymore (uni students – what is your issue! In my day….) and charities won’t take them. Of course people are going to dump them. Presumably after filing off their neighbourhood watch engravings

Aren’t they changing the system, so that now it will be ‘free’ to dump a TV, but there will be a waste disposal fee factored into the price of new TVs?

TAMSMediaRoom said :

TAMS urges Canberrans not to dump their old TVs and computers.

No, TAMS encourages Canberrans to illegally dump their old TVs and computers by making it difficult and perceptually expensive to dispose of them properly.

If you wanted to encourage them to dispose of them properly you’d make it easy and “free” by, say, having a regular kerbside pickup and increasing rates to cover the cost, making the cost essentially invisible.

AnimosiTy said :

sad, but how much does the tip charge for tvs n computer monitors… I wish I had a money tree…

If you can afford to buy a new TV then you can afford to get rid of the old one.

This whole ‘the gummint is responsible because they won’t wipe my arse for me’ attitude is revolting.

LOL… it seems someone has taken notice. Dump it and they will come.

Let’s get real. There are bodies who can turn these things into an income. Semi trailer loads go from Mugga Lane tip.

Perhaps Govco are making a (very serious) bob each way by charging, then selling, these units.

Is it any wonder the citizens are fairly jaundiced at paying for the scrapping, when the local park costs them nothing?