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No choice for exposure to radiation at AMC

By capitolm - 18 February 2010 55

My family member is in remand at the AMC and now will be subjected to several doses of radiation per week as they will now be x-rayed through SOTARS after every visit.  While they would prefer to be subjected to strip searches – they have  been told they must go through the x-ray or have a non-contact visit through the glass booth.  Do they not have the right to express health concerns because they are a prisoner?  I can not find anywhere – where the radiation council has approved the use of this equipment for use, yet it was in use last weekend.  But not today. What is the point of this machine anyway if it is not going to be used consistently?  How can I even begin to oppose its use when there don’t seem to be any publicly available policies on it? I don’t think it’s right that my family member is a guinea pig for the government’s new security screen.  My family member is not a drug user and is not in maximum security.  Now I have the guilt of knowing what they must further endure when I visit.  Family visits and support are an important part of the rehabilitation process for a person in prison and yet my mere presence will be be putting my family member at a measurable health risk.

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Bigbolt 4:00 pm 15 Apr 10

If your family member doesn’t like being x rayed I have a solution. Don’t go to jail. Its about time we stop feeling sorry for mongrel crims. Just because they are in remand does’t mean they haven’t done anything wrong. It is usually the case the courts do not trust the person if given bail, or they already have a lengthy record. Why doesn’t the human rights commisioner concerntrate her efforts on the conditions at old peoples homes, hospitails and schools instead of the bottomless pit of crim rehabe. I am sick of hearing how we treat prisoners when they get better medical, activities, food and privlages than old people do in nursing homes. Its just seems to be another toff nosed out of touch no understanding of reality commisioner wanting to put there name to something before they kick the bucket. Its all “oh no our prisoners are cold” “oh no our prisoners need a needle exchange” “oh no our prisoners are hot and hungry” “oh no our prisoners don’t have a gym”. WHO REALLY CARES!!!. Has anyone thought about the officers that work at the prisons humamrights not to be spat on and assaulted on a daily basis.

vg 9:22 pm 01 Mar 10

farq said :

vg said :

Happy to judge and be judged. What I will be judged on won’t land me in the AMC.

birch was lucky not to end up in AMC.

but when lack of empathy becomes illegal vg, you should be worried 🙂

Have you arranged your tickets to a non-extraditing nation in the event stupidity is treated the same?

James-T-Kirk 12:57 pm 01 Mar 10

(giggle)

When I was a youngster, I almost emptied Scarborough house, because somebody was whining about ‘dangerous emissions’ from one of the computer wiring closets. I was there, and I made them aware of the fact that on the 10th floor, there was hundreds of times as much energy coming from Telecom tower, then the shielded wiring system was spilling.

i also let them know about the Microwave energy their head was being exposed to every time they went under one of the Microwave based door openers mere inches from their heads….

🙂

Just a little information can be deadly…..

benett 5:25 pm 22 Feb 10

Self righteousness is a disease quite common to posters on the ‘riot-act’.
That and ignorance. The sorts of responses that can be found on this website are quite similar to those on the The Daily Telegraph website…

Grail 5:06 pm 22 Feb 10

Good call imhotep.

And those people who sit with you in court while sucking your bank account dry? They’re barristers.

Those people who carefully prepare your legal addictive drugs? They’re baristas.

I’m of two minds about teaching folks in prison on drugs charges being taught to prepare and serve addictive drugs. It’s just setting them up for reoffending isn’t it?

Skidbladnir 4:50 pm 22 Feb 10

Not everyone who posted was entirely unhelpful, but the sound of some of you coming out with an axe to grind at the mere mention of AMC seems to have drowned out any memories of some of us actually answering the query. 🙁

SolarPowered 2:58 pm 22 Feb 10

I would be very hesitant to have unnecessary x-rays. Even at the airport. In 30 years time they’ll look back and be amazed that we were so blase about radiation.

It’s a pity this has gone down the “let’s bash the crims” path rather than “let’s bash radiation”. Radiation is much more interesting.

imhotep 2:18 pm 22 Feb 10

farq said :

mortages, kids and bigotry are what interest the ‘majority’ of people.

bigot: ‘a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.’

dramatic irony: ‘when words and actions possess a significance that the listener or audience understands, but the speaker or character does not.’

youami 1:10 pm 22 Feb 10

ricketyclik said :

You lot sicken me. The lack of empathy and degree of downright bigotry displayed in this thread reminds me of why I stopped coming to this site so often, so many months ago. This site is dominated by self-righteous chest thumpers who would rather spend their lives morally outraged and pointing their fingers than to have a good think about things.

No doubt you got your education from “A Current Affair” and similar.

For the record, the aim is REHABILITATION, not retribution. Thank God the people in charge of these things aren’t answerable to the ignorant rabble that seem to make up the majority of our “civilization”. Do you think retribution will convince a person with no respect for society to behave well and consider others? How about teaching them how and why to be a contributing member of society?

And yes, I have been a victim of crime, and even if I hadn’t do you think those who hold views like mine haven’t thought that aspect through? That’s the first part of the question. The difference is, we’ve thought past that basic, primitive, initial response.

You lot are no better than a pack of dogs, and don’t deserve to be categorized as part of “humanity”. Think about that. But no, of course you won’t, you’ll continue on with your blind, reactionary, stimulus-response existences.

I bet a lot of you consider yourself Christians. Well “judge not, lest ye be judged”.

To capitolm:

I’m sorry for you and your family, and all affected by this chain of events. I hope you and yours can work your way through and past this. If you do, it will be no thanks to the charming folk on this site.

What has religion got to do with anything? And didn’t you just judge most of the posters here (“love thy neighbour”) or are you like most religious fanatics and only pick and choose the parts of the bible that suit your needs.

Anyway, @ the OP, it is good news that you were able to assist your FM with some informed decisions regarding SOTER. I guess in some weird way I assume that was the intent of your OP as opposed to opening the lynch gates. Bad news is rehabilitation doesn’t work –what are the statistics of repeat offenders who are incarcerated (I bet more than one-offs). Sure, if your FM is remorseful then good news as well. We all make mistakes sometimes those mistakes affect others. On the other hand, bad news is that probably most people on this post have been a victim (grand stereotype here) as have I. My bike was stolen from inside my basement garage and I have been mugged. Regardless of what offence your FM has (allegedly) committed I, like others, feel little sympathy. Even if he/she was innocent why was he charged in the first place? Police don’t go around arresting innocent people!

Clown Killer 12:49 am 22 Feb 10

Happy to judge and be judged. What I will be judged on won’t land me in the AMC.

+1

Regardless of the excuses and justifications – by far the great majority of people who end up in gaol have chosen to be there through the inevitable consequenses of their actions. A
If this bloke thought getting himself x-rayed more often than was sensible was going to be a problem then he shouldn’t have done all those crimes in the first place … send the little princess a spoonful of cement powder.

miz 11:51 pm 21 Feb 10

Hey, Capitolm. I would go the non-contact booth until the results on SOTERS are in – just in case. Specially as your family member is on remand (ie not found guilty at this stage).

Hope it works out OK for your family. It appears that sometimes people are so focused on the law and order debate (just where the pollies want them to be, so they can be whipped up into a frenzy at election time) that they forget that the families are often unacknowledged victims in situations such as yours.

farq 9:49 pm 21 Feb 10

ricketyclik said :

No doubt you got your education from “A Current Affair” and similar.

yup you got it nailed.

mortages, kids and bigotry are what interest the ‘majority’ of people.

Special G 9:16 pm 21 Feb 10

Great rant. Now bugger off with your bleeding heart hug the monkeys approach cause it ain’t working.

Up the radiation – it will do them some good.

farq 8:31 pm 21 Feb 10

vg said :

Happy to judge and be judged. What I will be judged on won’t land me in the AMC.

birch was lucky not to end up in AMC.

but when lack of empathy becomes illegal vg, you should be worried 🙂

buzz819 8:25 pm 21 Feb 10

ricketyclik said :

For the record, the aim is REHABILITATION, not retribution. Thank God the people in charge of these things aren’t answerable to the ignorant rabble that seem to make up the majority of our “civilization”. Do you think retribution will convince a person with no respect for society to behave well and consider others? How about teaching them how and why to be a contributing member of society?

Unfortunately it just doesn’t work. The amount of repeat offenders in the ACT is stupidly high. Hence the post.

I think it all comes down to the attitudes of society that they are fed up with people not keeping their hands to themselves. You may call it bigotry as we don’t like the criminal class, but thats the good thing about opinions, we have ours, you have yours, neither of them are going to change.

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