28 September 2007

Not all minor parties are created equal!

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The Democrats are poling in the ACT senate 6.6% currently < ‘Greens ’50-50 chance to oust Humphries’ in Senate race’ Canberra Times 13/9/07>, as opposed to the national rate of 1%. This is an incredible achivement for the underdog ACT Democrats and their candidate Norvan Vogt who only entered the race a little over 6 weeks ago. I think that Norvan is proving to be the ‘X factor’ in this election as the Democrats Preferences, if they are forwarded to the Greens, will make or break Kerrie Tucker’s chance of ousting Garry Humphries. There is another possibility if the ALP where to preference the Democrats ahead of the Greens then it would be likely that Norvan could become an ACT Senator. I know that there are a lot of disaffected coalition voters out there that would prefer that the Democrats hold the balance of power rather than the Greens.

There is a vast difference in voting for the Greens versus the Democrats. The Greens campaign of ‘rescue the senate’ is a shame. If the Greens did hold the balance of power they would not rescue it but hold it ransom as the Greens are little more than a single issue protest party. Where as the Australia Democrats are beholden to none. The Greens very rarely compromise, unlike the Democrats who strive for outcomes.

There is a distinct difference in the candidates as well. Kerrie Tucker an old party hack of the Greens who failed to poll as well as Rick Farley did in the past, despite having just come off the back of being an ex-MLA with significant Media exposure. And in the other corner you have Norvan Vogt, a young and enthusiastic candidate with significant representative experience who is discovering a groundswell of support. It is surprising to see that the Greens do when they don’t have the monopoly on the ‘young’ or ‘socially concerned’ vote.

If I was Kate Lundy I would reconsider who was getting my Senate preferences in the ACT. It is an exciting prospect that the power in the senate could be wrestled away from the coalition by 7000 voters in the ACT <’We can heal our silent Senate’ Canberra Times 21/09/07>. The decision is the ALP’s, it will need to consider deeply that maybe being held to ransom by the Greens, is not as good as, being able to work with the Democrats who will, if Norvan is elected have a minimum of 5 Senators till mid next year.

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Jonathon Reynolds2:14 pm 28 Sep 07

I love what the Wikipedia has to say about them:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Democrats

However, internal bickering, the rise of the Australian Greens and growing support for the Liberal Party of Australia in the early 2000s changed this, and the Democrats are now in heavy decline – receiving 1.24% nationally, and less than 3% of the vote at all but a handful of booths, even in their Adelaide heartland.

Woody Mann-Caruso1:49 pm 28 Sep 07

I thought the Democrats were an urban legend.

I suggest RA might want to send the poster a bill for their advert.

p.s. Thumper for Admin
p.p.s Keep on RESPEKTING CHE

la mente torbida12:55 pm 28 Sep 07

Advertising is one thing, dressing it up as political comment pees me off. Is RiotACT missing out on revenue here?

Well, I have to say I’m impressed with the advanced in technology on this site. It used to be that you had to use your hands to type a blog entry, but now it seems a single jerking knee can achieve a similar result.

Can we quit the propaganda now, hmmm?

You cant be nonconformist if you dont drink coffee11:40 am 28 Sep 07

He he he, I like the idea of Norvan in the Senate: “So to sum up, it’s the constitution… it’s the vibe…nothing further Mr President.” :p
Still, at least he’s young and naieve enough to have an excuse for his ridiculously overblown idealism – what’s Tucker’s excuse?

A Labour absolute majority (after this election) isn’t within the bounds of reasonable possibility. This is because the 72 Senators representing the states are elected for 6 years at a time – so only just over half of the Senate will be facing election this year. 17 Liberal, 2 National, 14 ALP, 2 Greens and 1 Family First senator are not up for election this year – to get an absolute majority the ALP would have to win 25 out of 40 senate spots that are up for election, and this is pretty much an impossible hurdle.

The upshot is that for Labour to get an absolute majority they will need to do exceptionally well at two half-senate elections in a row (or in one double-dissolution election).

The real danger is Norvan in the senate. This guy is a dill, more worried about three-toed sloths than any real issue.

Anyway, I agree with mlm … this post is just an ad.

How do I set my RiotACT preferences to exclude blatant political propaganda?

I think the real danger we face is that the coalition’s current senate majority will become a Labour senate majority, such is the revulsion most people now have for the libs. I prefer Labour to Liberal, but an absolute majority in both houses is a nasty prospect no matter who owns it. I just hope people vote for a minor party or independant in the senate (carefully avoiding the crazy ones of course).

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