NSW speeding fine as ACT driver

Ok well I just had to spend my afternoon with 2 cranky kids in the car, run out to Fyshwick and pay the ACT Govt $40 because the Aust Passport office couldn’t quite decide if a single letter on my son’s birth certificate was an ‘L’ or an ‘i’. There was a slight smudge on the print probably from when it was sent out folded in the post to me back in 2006 ( I have had it stored flat in an acid free album so I know it wasn’t my fault).
The letter was in my second name. Every other detail was matched perfectly.
So don’t complain about databases not talking to each other. And having to pay for something that is not your fault! Oh wait ….
I’m with them – Suck it up princess
Now I feel mean. I’ve had a bad day.

There is a national database, its called NEVDIS but it only gives basic details interstate like your name & if your licence is current. This is why NSW are asking you to get the details.

The $21.50 is an admin fee, the ACT RTA have never, & I repeat, never have given this information out for free. It actually takes quite a while to find some of this information so that is why they charge.

Rollersk8r said :

p996911turbo said :

I got a fine for the lowest speeding category (under 15km/h over the speed limit) in South Australia. It was over $300. For the lowest category speeding fine.

Suck it up, princess. $21.50 is a lot better than over $300.

Ha! It took all of 4 comments before I got a “suck it up princess”! I was expecting that as post 1!

Agreed. What is it with all these RA whackers that keep saying this? What a puerile comment “suck it up…” is. Shows an intellectual vacuum between the ears. Find something new that actually makes sense, and that hasn’t been said so many times before.

Suck it up princess.

I do love that it somehow costs $20 when it’s not in their interests, yet they are perfectly happy to do it for free of their own initiative when they want to catch you out in a lie.

You can’t afford $21.40?
Are you the homeless guy outside Civic Maccas?! I just gave you $10 about 20 minutes earlier!

JC said :

So what price do you reckon you should pay to access your record? Now don’t say nothing, because frankly the $300 or so that we pay for car rego doesn’t go very far and it does cost to have the people in the Canberra connect offices..

Nothing!! Why is the ACT motor registry any different to the dozens of other services I pay for? If you think of it in terms of accessing your account information and usage history I can do this as much as I like for banking, ISP, phones, Medicare, ACT library (And that’s free! Hello!), ACTION (hello again!), E-tag, health insurance, newspaper subscription, etc, etc. Everyone else realises zero customer interaction saves them money…

And hey – I’d happily pay a lot more than $21.40 to never visit an ACT motor registry again!

Years ago (more than 15) I sold a vehicle in NSW but we forgot to update the change of rego for a couple of weeks. In the course of about 3 months, the new owners racked up about 20 parking tickets (no on-the-spot fines then). Even though the rego details had been updated, NSW still sent the tickets to us. The back of the parking infringement notice stated if you weren’t the registered owner at the time of the infringement “please sign here,witnessed by a JP”. We duly did this for all the infringement notices we received. The infringements that occurred after the rego change over were waived, however we still had to fork out for the 4 or 5 that were issued before then. Obviously the databases DO talk to each other when pushed.

Databases don’t talk to each other across state/territory borders due to privacy regulations.

I’m glad they don’t talk, as I’m not a citizen of NSW and would prefer for them to not have rampant access to my details for no reason.

For them to talk and share like that the Feds step in and arrange it (i.e. Crime Commission). Road services aren’t really a big enough issue to the Feds to consider giving it a statutory authority.

It might be quicker for both RTA’s to talk to each other, but why should they?

You want the fine reduced, you do the leg work.

So what price do you reckon you should pay to access your record? Now don’t say nothing, because frankly the $300 or so that we pay for car rego doesn’t go very far and it does cost to have the people in the Canberra connect offices..

p996911turbo said :

I got a fine for the lowest speeding category (under 15km/h over the speed limit) in South Australia. It was over $300. For the lowest category speeding fine.

Suck it up, princess. $21.50 is a lot better than over $300.

Ha! It took all of 4 comments before I got a “suck it up princess”! I was expecting that as post 1!

Ahem – minor edit – nowhere does it officially say the fine will be waived, though I still expect my chances are better than 50/50. Of course, worst possible outcome is I pay the $21.40 for my record and have to pay the fine regardless…

A very similar thing happened to me but in reverse, the NSW RTA also has ~$20 fee for retrieving driving record.

p996911turbo said :

I got a fine for the lowest speeding category (under 15km/h over the speed limit) in South Australia. It was over $300. For the lowest category speeding fine.

Suck it up, princess. $21.50 is a lot better than over $300.

Sorry I should clarify. It was 12km/h over the limit. That’s the lowest category in the ACT, but not in SA. Their cut-off is 10km/h.

I got a fine for the lowest speeding category (under 15km/h over the speed limit) in South Australia. It was over $300. For the lowest category speeding fine.

Suck it up, princess. $21.50 is a lot better than over $300.

A few years back I got pinged doing 55 in a 40 zone, on the first day of the school term when none of the kids were in the school because it was a pupil-free day. I know this because they were at the park where my kids were playing. I didn’t see the first 40 sign, then noticed the school, slowed down but too late. The rellies car following behind didn’t get a fine and didn’t see the first sign either.

A couple of weeks before they had decided to double the demerit points and fines for speeding fines in school zones. Fair enough too. Because of this I also couldn’t apply for the clean-record waiver.

I paid up and didn’t post to RA … until now.

Idea 1: FOI your driving records, and then claim the personal information exemption to charges.

Idea 2: Apply for a waiver of the fee under section 131 of the Financial Management and Accountability Act 1996.

wow…i didn’t know that. we might as well get out of everything…what a farce. less than 30km/hr over is considered “low range”…? wow.

$21.40 is a bit steep (but you still should be counting yourself lucky to get out of a fine)…but to reduce the work we should be able to get it online, that sounds more efficient all around

out of interest, do they record that you were given a “hall pass” on this? otherwise who’d ever get a fine?

why would you expect NSW and ACT databases to talk to each other? each state and territory has different road rules and some even have stopped issuing rego stickers.

pay the $21.40 and be done with it (it does actually cost money to pay someone to interrogate a database and print your record), or live with the demerit points and a dirty driving record.