20 April 2016

Overtaking Gordon style

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OvertakingOvertaking Gordon style, P-Plater overtakes me on double white lines, I was doing the posted speed limit of 60 k’s

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Aeek said :

bloke1 said :

Regardless of license status, P-plater here, the driver has made a cardinal error, overtaking on double lines.

I wish it was that simple. Barton, heading out to Murrumbateman, there is still a curved double line section with clear visibility. Plus side, there are less of the approaching crest dashed line sections that my reaction is no F’way.

So you’re saying you’d still break the law and risk both your life and those of others on the road, based on YOUR opinion of whether it should be a double yellow line or not?? What’s the problem with heeding the road signs, not overtaking then and saving what, a few seconds or even as much as a few minutes in travel time??

bloke1 said :

Regardless of license status, P-plater here, the driver has made a cardinal error, overtaking on double lines.

I wish it was that simple. Barton, heading out to Murrumbateman, there is still a curved double line section with clear visibility. Plus side, there are less of the approaching crest dashed line sections that my reaction is no F’way.

I can’t believe some of the responses here.

Everybody bends the rules occasionally, the reality is we have road rules for a good reason, for all we know the section of road in the posted video may have been the scene of a tragedy at some point and hence cautious line markings/speed limits. Regardless of license status, P-plater here, the driver has made a cardinal error, overtaking on double lines.

Not really a big issue here. There’s plenty of similar roads around that are set at a higher speed limit and with broken lines. If rules didn’t exist, you wouldn’t even really consider it a problem at all, as it’s just what happens in other similar places. It’s only because they decided that the limit there should be lowish and the lines should be doubled that it stands out to you. It’s not really like they were going 120kph in a school zone and missing oncoming traffic by 2m…I don’t know why you bothered posting this tbh…you must live a fairly sheltered driving life if this stands out as dangerous to you.

Chello said :

The driver recording was probably deliberately going slow so as to ‘capture’ this random act. Where is his/her perfect driving before or after this event?

Bullshit. That road is notorious for idiot drivers going 80+. This moron would’ve reached the next intersection about 5 seconds before the car with the camera. Hardly worth the risk.

The driver recording was probably deliberately going slow so as to ‘capture’ this random act. Where is his/her perfect driving before or after this event?

Pitchka said :

Bet you were excited when you recorded this….!!! And then thought to yourself, I cant wait to share this with Riotact, and the other 4 or so posters who might actually give a shyte. Clearly im not one of them.

Feel free to share videos of you breaking the law, if they infact exist.

Well I was interested living in the area and having been tail gated by this toerag before. So as I would like to live a bit longer put me down as one of the four turkey!!

Some are bound to be p-platers for life

Antagonist said :

Very Busy said :

Antagonist said :

I can’t see your speedo, but I would estimate that you are in fact only doing about 40 km/h, hence stupid P-platers impatience.

Using reference points from the video, and the ruler feature of google earth, the OP travelled 310 metres in 18 seconds. This gives an average speed over that distance of 62kmh.

So the OP was actually speeding, in addition to stupid P-plater being … well … stupid. Two wrongs don’t make a right. Nothing to see here.

So you’re assuming the estimate of 62 was correct? Even if it was was, 2 kph is within the bounds at which the driver would have been given a speeding ticket. You do know that at 60 kph a 2 kph difference is 1.2%, something that would barely cause a speedo needle to move in most cars – if it even mattered in the first place.

You’re either a troll or very stupid, it’s hard to tell which.

Queen_of_the_Bun2:52 pm 08 Mar 14

Madam Cholet said :

Overtaking on 50 or 60k suburban roads just because you disagree with actually doing the speed limit or don’t think the limit is adequate is one of the most pointless activities. I wonder how many seconds that person saved on their trip? Perhaps they slowed down to turn right down to Point Hut and then perhaps the OP caught up with them…wouldn’t surprise me.

Anyone who can’t deal with speed limits, whatever they think of them shouldn’t be on the road.

And I would say that it wasn’t that safe given the very short period of time that it took to see the white ute come around the bend. Exactly why there were double lines there – because it was a bend with less than adequate visibility.

+1
If you don’t like the laws, get elected and change them.

Very Busy said :

Antagonist said :

I can’t see your speedo, but I would estimate that you are in fact only doing about 40 km/h, hence stupid P-platers impatience.

Using reference points from the video, and the ruler feature of google earth, the OP travelled 310 metres in 18 seconds. This gives an average speed over that distance of 62kmh.

So the OP was actually speeding, in addition to stupid P-plater being … well … stupid. Two wrongs don’t make a right. Nothing to see here.

Antagonist said :

I can’t see your speedo, but I would estimate that you are in fact only doing about 40 km/h, hence stupid P-platers impatience.

Using reference points from the video, and the ruler feature of google earth, the OP travelled 310 metres in 18 seconds. This gives an average speed over that distance of 62kmh.

I assume, as outraged as you obviously are, that you took this video to the ACT police, gave a signed statement indicating the date and time this was taken, and offered to stand up in open court under your real name to confirm its veracity.

Obviously you did that didn’t you?

mr_wowtrousers6:33 pm 07 Mar 14

You didn’t care so much that you were excited to get on and post and share with Riotact and the 4 or so other posters who mightn’t give a shyte? Clearly you’re one of them.

Pitchka said :

Bet you were excited when you recorded this….!!! And then thought to yourself, I cant wait to share this with Riotact, and the other 4 or so posters who might actually give a shyte. Clearly im not one of them.

Feel free to share videos of you breaking the law, if they infact exist.

I can’t see your speedo, but I would estimate that you are in fact only doing about 40 km/h, hence stupid P-platers impatience.

I see far worse than this on a daily basis. Nothing to see here so move along..

Bet you were excited when you recorded this….!!! And then thought to yourself, I cant wait to share this with Riotact, and the other 4 or so posters who might actually give a shyte. Clearly im not one of them.

Feel free to share videos of you breaking the law, if they infact exist.

Speeding – check
Double lines – check
No indicators – check

That what P-platers are for. Always was, always will be.

Same thing happened to me on the way back from Sydney one Sunday on majura road, p plater and all. Idiots!

Nylex_Clock said :

pptvb said :

Yep.
Happens every day on Mugga Ln,
except they’re doing 120km/h in a 70 zone.

As troll-sniffer says – make stupid rules, people will flout them.

There are plenty of country roads of worse quality than Mugga Lane that have 100 limits on them. There was no rational explanation for lowering the limit to 70 in 2010.

The rational explanation is that there are far too may peeps with licences that are clueless zombies. The system is broke!

pptvb said :

Yep.
Happens every day on Mugga Ln,
except they’re doing 120km/h in a 70 zone.

As troll-sniffer says – make stupid rules, people will flout them.

There are plenty of country roads of worse quality than Mugga Lane that have 100 limits on them. There was no rational explanation for lowering the limit to 70 in 2010.

Madam Cholet12:16 pm 07 Mar 14

Overtaking on 50 or 60k suburban roads just because you disagree with actually doing the speed limit or don’t think the limit is adequate is one of the most pointless activities. I wonder how many seconds that person saved on their trip? Perhaps they slowed down to turn right down to Point Hut and then perhaps the OP caught up with them…wouldn’t surprise me.

Anyone who can’t deal with speed limits, whatever they think of them shouldn’t be on the road.

And I would say that it wasn’t that safe given the very short period of time that it took to see the white ute come around the bend. Exactly why there were double lines there – because it was a bend with less than adequate visibility.

troll-sniffer10:44 am 07 Mar 14

And the obvious question from the video is: why is it a 60km/hr zone in the first place? Nothing makes motorists more contemptuous of speed limits than ill-conceived examples, and this would appear to be one.

You can quote all the rules regulations and other right-minded stuff you like, but in the end you won’t overcome human psychology, which in this case looks like it has come to the fore.

And Basilbrush, even though the behaviour of the p plater was illegal, there’s no suggestion at that moment it was dangerous, there’s sufficient view ahead.

This kind of behaviour is so dangerous – mostly for other drivers. They are the ones that end up hurt or killed……

Yep.
Happens every day on Mugga Ln,
except they’re doing 120km/h in a 70 zone.

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