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Pay parking opens up in the Parliamentary Triangle

By johnboy - 15 May 2013 76

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It’s been talked about for years, and announced in last night’s budget. Pay parking in the parliamentary triangle is coming.

This will mean the more important departments lose the perk of free parking, but at least some rationalism will come into the parking which will mean visitors can get a spot (even if they have to pay for it).

The National Capital Authority has opened a discussion on the balance of short and long stay parking:

The National Capital Authority invites public comment on the allocation of car parks for long stay and short stay. Four discussion boards, which have been broken down by area, are available for comments.

The aim of this consultation is to determine the optimal mix of short stay and long stay spaces within the overall pay parking arrangements.

One way or another, the pay parking kicks off from 1 July 2014.

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Katietonia 1:26 pm 03 Jun 13

I’ve been enjoying the free parking outside the museum (as a member of staff in the area, parking in the designated staff parking) for a few months. Couldn’t believe I had FREE PARKING when I started here. Had to confirm it twice before I relaxed and realised I wasn’t going to get booked . My main issue with paying for parking when I worked in Woden was the constant search for coins. It was that or buy a parking voucher and pay for days when I am not there (such as public holidays) which is annoying and makes no sense. If they accept credit card then it shouldn’t be an issue.

Why do the ACT Government think it is OK to charge people for parking on public holidays instead of just adding an extra day to the pass? Surely their system could be changed to adjust for these days.

Postalgeek 11:54 am 03 Jun 13

pink little birdie said :

Saying that people in the triangle should pay the same amount for parking in the triangle as people pay for parking in town centres is the equivalent of saying that someone should pay the same amount for a flat in the outer suburbs of a major city as they pay for a flat smack bang in the middle of the CBD.

Yes, when I think of the Parliamentary triangle I think ‘gosh, there’s an outer suburb of Canberra if I’ve ever seen one’.

devils_advocate 11:38 am 03 Jun 13

pink little birdie said :

People in the parlimentary triangle departments have used the not close to amenities argument for higher pay brackets than other departments. I’ll agree to your argument when the parlimentary triangle departments base pay scales are the same as other departments.

So many LOLs, where to start…

pink little birdie 10:43 am 03 Jun 13

Ghettosmurf87 said :

But as someone who paid (exorbitantly) for the honor of parking in Woden for years, I say to our central colleagues – Get over yourselves and join the real world.

I suggest you get over yourself Jess. At least paying for parking in Woden, Civic or Belconnen town centres provides those people who have paid for the parking access to a wide-range of facilities within convenient walking distance, negating the necessity to look for parking again if they choose to use these facilities.

Therefore, should paid parking be brought in to the triangle, you would at least expect it to be appreciably lower than parking in major town centres to reflect the reduced amenities available to people who park there.

Saying that people in the triangle should pay the same amount for parking in the triangle as people pay for parking in town centres is the equivalent of saying that someone should pay the same amount for a flat in the outer suburbs of a major city as they pay for a flat smack bang in the middle of the CBD.

People in the parlimentary triangle departments have used the not close to amenities argument for higher pay brackets than other departments. I’ll agree to your argument when the parlimentary triangle departments base pay scales are the same as other departments.

Gerry-Built 9:38 am 03 Jun 13

My wife, who works in a cultural institution in the Triangle, told me they received an internal email advising pay parking will be $10/day. The email went on to state that pay parking in the triangle is expected to raise $72M in the first 12 months of operation.

Paid parking at least provides a better opportunity for those working in the triangle than the 3P spots currently operating, which has often lead to long drives looking for a spot, or long walks from a found spot outside the triangle, both for workers and visitors to our fine cultural institutions.

Incidentally, (AFAIK) there is no way a business offering commercial parking rates, or competition, can operate in the triangle, nor much of the land bordering it (ie land controlled by the NCA). I believe economists call this “inelastic demand”.

santiago 8:39 pm 02 Jun 13

Aeek said :

Parking in Woden improved heaps when it went to $8 and $9 has been icing. Before it was getting impossible to get a park if I was running too late to cycle in, or as has been mentioned here need to drop children off first.
Must be hell needing to drop the kids off before parking in the triangle ATM.

Aeek said :

Parking in Woden improved heaps when it went to $8 and $9 has been icing. Before it was getting impossible to get a park if I was running too late to cycle in, or as has been mentioned here need to drop children off first.
Must be hell needing to drop the kids off before parking in the triangle ATM.

I actually park near my kid’s childcare then pull my folding bike out and ride 5mins to work. Free parking and the bonus of shade in summer. Then I can nick into Kingston at lunch on the treadlie in 5mins.

Ghettosmurf87 9:53 am 17 May 13

But as someone who paid (exorbitantly) for the honor of parking in Woden for years, I say to our central colleagues – Get over yourselves and join the real world.

I suggest you get over yourself Jess. At least paying for parking in Woden, Civic or Belconnen town centres provides those people who have paid for the parking access to a wide-range of facilities within convenient walking distance, negating the necessity to look for parking again if they choose to use these facilities.

Therefore, should paid parking be brought in to the triangle, you would at least expect it to be appreciably lower than parking in major town centres to reflect the reduced amenities available to people who park there.

Saying that people in the triangle should pay the same amount for parking in the triangle as people pay for parking in town centres is the equivalent of saying that someone should pay the same amount for a flat in the outer suburbs of a major city as they pay for a flat smack bang in the middle of the CBD.

JessP 9:18 am 17 May 13

Martlark said :

ABS in Belconnen has just announced that their staff car park will become paid parking. Partially to escape paying FBT. It’s one of the last departments in Belconnen to offer it.

FaHCSIA and DHS in Tuggers are also looking at introducing paid parkng this year as well. The day of the free car park is over!

But as someone who paid (exorbitantly) for the honor of parking in Woden for years, I say to our central colleagues – Get over yourselves and join the real world.

neanderthalsis 9:12 am 17 May 13

JC said :

I am not too sure how buses in the triangle can be improved really. For me the killer is not buses in the triangle (this was fixed a few timetables ago) but the time the bus takes to get to the triangle even on the express buses.

On the few days of the year when I chose not to drive because the jalopy is being prodded by a chap in overalls, I catch an omnibus into Barton. The run from Belconnen to Barton only takes 25 mins if you get the 710, close to what my drive in would be a fairly normal traffic conditions. I presume other town centres have a similar arrangement.

FXST01 8:45 am 17 May 13

Isn’t Russell on Defence land? How can the NCA dictate who pays on it?

pink little birdie 11:29 pm 16 May 13

JC said :

pink little birdie said :

apparently even if departments have limited free parking they are all now looking to make it pay parking to save jobs… so they don’t have to pay fbt on it

Actually as there is already a paid carpark in Barton all the departments around are already liable for FBT on their freely provided carparks. So this really changes nothing in that regard.

the reason my department announced removal of the free parking was to save on fbt which will contribute to the savings that need to be made as part of the $580 million public service savings announced in the budget. it also means some of these departments will be able to save money that way instead of cutting work programs and /or jobs.

gentoopenguin 10:37 pm 16 May 13

c_c™ said :

Brilliant sound bite on ABC News tonight from a public servant:

“$11 a day, my goodness it won’t be worth working”

Not sure if joking or serious.
Keep in mind even an APS 2 earns $136 a day so perhaps overstating it a bit.

Haha yeah, I saw that woman on the 7pm ABC News. She was standing in the DFAT carpark. Nevermind that they are one of the highest paid agencies in the APS…

switch 10:30 pm 16 May 13

JC said :

brining in more workers to compete for less space.

With 12000 jobs slated to be axed, they have the solution to that part of the problem…

gooterz 9:00 pm 16 May 13

Martlark said :

ABS in Belconnen has just announced that their staff car park will become paid parking. Partially to escape paying FBT. It’s one of the last departments in Belconnen to offer it.

I thought that was because the ABS didn’t own the carpark, so they couldn’t charge people for something they didn’t own?

Either way the agencies have a choice of paying $5 a day in FBT or making the employees pay $10+ in parking, and also on the top of that have to pay for machines and extra’s to be installed to collect the parking fee’s.

The FBT they collect will go straight back to the government anyway and be available to give back to the departments.. The whole issue of FBT is just wrong, its the government paying itself a tax, which they’re now passing onto the employees as a pay cut.

screaming banshee 7:16 pm 16 May 13

JC said :

screaming banshee said :

JC said :

That said paid parking is stupid in this area. As for those that want equity, how about we now start charging paid parking in Gungahlin, Kippax, Erindale, Coolaman Court, Fyshwick, Mitchell etc. That way every worker in the town is treated equally!

Most Fyshwick businesses own/lease their own parking, so the businesses are covering the cost of off-street parking and providing it for their customers at no charge.

Parking has been ridiculous in the triangle for far too long. How are visitors who drive supposed to visit the national attractions if every Tom dick and Sally fills the car parks at 8am? I wish we didn’t have to wait until next year.

Looks like you have fallen hook line and sinker into that old chestnut. Finding parking to visit the attractions is NOT the issue and plenty can be had for our fine visitors.

Finding all day parking for all the workers IS due to the fact they have built new buildings on what were once car parks reducing space for existing workers and brining in more workers to compete for less space.

Now I don’t know if you’re serious you nutbag you, in case you are the I can assure you visiting questacon or the library is a nightmare

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