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Pining for the falls

By Barcham - 26 June 2013 18

Falls

Ausguy81 may not be able to get to the falls, but he can take a picture.

I would like to add my voice to the chorus of people asking for Ginninderra Falls to be returned to the people. I think is a real shame this is as close as we can get…

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18 Responses to
Pining for the falls
Postalgeek 2:27 pm 26 Jun 13

Just so people have a better understanding of the issue, this is a Hansard excerpt from May 2012. Mrs Anna Hyles and her husband own Ginninderra Falls, and she is a member of the Ginninderra Falls Association Committee:

Mrs Hyles:…When we had it open, Johnnie and I ran it as a national park. You can see the falls. It is quite spectacular. It is three kilometres from the edge of the suburbs of Belconnen. It is so close. People would be able to get there in a short time. School groups could get there within their school day.

When Johnnie and I started, we had a bit of a master plan for it that we developed with a firm in Canberra. We saw it as walking trails, camping, canoeing. We had a vision that we wanted to do that ourselves. A young girl injured herself out there in 2004 and we closed the park due to insurance. We could not get insurance. It has fallen into disrepair. There is so much that needs to be done. It is way beyond our capability, all the fences and the railings. We have had people look at it. There are a lot of quite serious structures that need to be built to access the pulpit lookout. To make that safe and secure, there is a lot of work that needs to be done. We really believe that it should be in public ownership. We are very keen to get it underway. We have the idea to do it but it is just beyond our means to do it.

http://www.hansard.act.gov.au/hansard/2009/comms/climate30.pdf

Grimm 1:58 pm 26 Jun 13

Snave81 said :

And looking at the Google street view image of the front gate, people haven’t been respecting nature to much with the dumped rubbish and burnt out cars.

So, what? We should lock everybody out of everywhere because of a few d***heads? Considering the vast majority who use these type of areas do treat them with respect, I’d say that’s a pretty crappy way of dealing with the situation.

Punish the people doing the wrong thing, rather than punishing everybody just because it’s easier.

460cixy 1:51 pm 26 Jun 13

Chop71 said :

Open it up please.

http://ginninderra.org.au/node/194

These whackers are dreaming. How ever I think we should have access but. Not via another wast of money national park. Is this the same mob that used BCC moneys to start off this crusade?

Snave81 1:43 pm 26 Jun 13

Grimm said :

Ginninderra falls is one of many areas that should be opened to the public again. This whole habit of locking people out of nature is getting ridiculous around the ACT.

The falls are also located in NSW and as others have said it’s private property as well.

And looking at the Google street view image of the front gate, people haven’t been respecting nature to much with the dumped rubbish and burnt out cars.

Grimm 1:40 pm 26 Jun 13

davo101 said :

It’s privately owned freehold. If the owner’s don’t want you on their land then that’s entirely their prerogative.

In this case, yes. The owner can do whatever they like with their private property, and I can’t blame them for not wanting to open it up. As we can see, tossers looking for quick cash have again ruined it for everybody else.

Unfortunately though, in other cases, the ACT Government are locking up more and more popular areas for no reason other than kowtowing to green groups. We are slowly but surely losing access to the places more people should be encouraged to get out and see. Keeping people out isn’t the only way to keep the environment safe, but actual management strategies are too much like hard work…

davo101 1:12 pm 26 Jun 13

Grimm said :

Ginninderra falls is one of many areas that should be opened to the public again. This whole habit of locking people out of nature is getting ridiculous around the ACT.

It’s privately owned freehold. If the owner’s don’t want you on their land then that’s entirely their prerogative.

Ben_Dover 1:07 pm 26 Jun 13

The year prior to closing in 2004 the Hyles Family had 15,000 visitors to the falls. Unfortunately three failed attempts to sue the family resulting in years of legal headaches broke the business.

Can we find those who tried to sue, and throw them off the highest point there, just to appease the gods of decency and common sense?

Ben_Dover 1:05 pm 26 Jun 13

Supportive or reopening.

Aren’t there some climbing routes there? I seem to remember a couple of lines having been bolted into submission.

p1 1:05 pm 26 Jun 13

Grimm said :

Ginninderra falls is one of many areas that should be opened to the public again. This whole habit of locking people out of nature is getting ridiculous around the ACT.

In this instance, the main issue would appear to be that it is privately owned (or at least all access is). So get it gazetted as a national park and you are laughing.

Grimm 11:59 am 26 Jun 13

Ginninderra falls is one of many areas that should be opened to the public again. This whole habit of locking people out of nature is getting ridiculous around the ACT.

Chop71 10:30 am 26 Jun 13
bundah 9:56 am 26 Jun 13

Ah yes I have fond memories of hiking through there but as is always the case the lowlife farktards ruin it for the masses.

wildturkeycanoe 9:50 am 26 Jun 13

Unfortunately, if opened up to the public, we the taxpayers would have to cough up a huge sum of money to make the access trails “safe”. There would need to be a viewing platform built, safety rails to prevent any access to the steep hillside and the top of the falls and probably a wildlife study to see if there are any nearly extinct species that we may encroach upon. Whilst they close places like Kambah Pool, Googong Dam and Mt. Franklin, why would we expect to get access to anything else that’s beautiful and free?

Thumper 9:44 am 26 Jun 13

And this is what we are missing out on…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsydV2_B52o

p1 9:26 am 26 Jun 13

Technically, I believe you could walk up the stream itself from the river, then you wouldn’t be on private property…

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