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Prisoners Whinge About New Gaol

Tooks 11 May 2009 52

Unfortunately I can’t find a link, but was flicking through the Canberra Times today and came across an article regarding prisoner complaints (from AMC) regarding such things as small meal portions, poor quality food, lack of clothing provided, and the place being too cold.

I believe families of a couple of prisoners contacted the media, hence the story.  

I guess the nice new human rights compliant prison isn’t quite nice enough for some people.  

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peterh peterh 4:44 pm 12 May 09

Reprobate said :

Ozhair said :

As usual with a lot of discussions on here, sides are being taken without the benefit of the full facts.

While I personally believe that time in gaol should be in no way easy, in the case of the AMC, arguments from both sides at the moment are purely speculation.

If you’re looking for facts, RiotACT is the wrong place to find them. Pure speculation, half-baked opinions, conspiracy theories, unfounded accusations, nutbag rantings and a few nice photos are the heart and soul of this place. That’s why I keep coming back.

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well said, reprobate.

Mr Evil Mr Evil 3:33 pm 12 May 09

This is RiotACT – everyone’s in a snappy mood here! 🙂

FC FC 3:30 pm 12 May 09

Sorry, I’m in a snappy mood today. And excuse my poor spelling also.

Mr Evil Mr Evil 3:28 pm 12 May 09

None at all – but I thought it’d help pass the time!

FC FC 3:19 pm 12 May 09

Mr Evil said :

There are also probably quite a few homeless people in New York who have never met a homeless person from Canberra – maybe we should set up a homeless persons exchange?

relevence?

Mr Evil Mr Evil 3:14 pm 12 May 09

There are also probably quite a few homeless people in New York who have never met a homeless person from Canberra – maybe we should set up a homeless persons exchange?

FC FC 2:55 pm 12 May 09

There are also probably quite a few homeless people from NY who’d have a lot of sympathy for the homeless people in Canberra complaining about being homeless.

Mr Evil Mr Evil 2:48 pm 12 May 09

There are probably quite a few homeless people in Canberra at this time of year who’d have a lot of sympathy for those prisoners complaining about the cold and the poor quality food at the AMC…..

Reprobate Reprobate 2:29 pm 12 May 09

Ozhair said :

As usual with a lot of discussions on here, sides are being taken without the benefit of the full facts.

While I personally believe that time in gaol should be in no way easy, in the case of the AMC, arguments from both sides at the moment are purely speculation.

If you’re looking for facts, RiotACT is the wrong place to find them. Pure speculation, half-baked opinions, conspiracy theories, unfounded accusations, nutbag rantings and a few nice photos are the heart and soul of this place. That’s why I keep coming back.

Tooks Tooks 2:06 pm 12 May 09

Forgot to mention that apparently AMC was given an inspection at the beginning of the month and it was given the thumbs up.

Ozhair Ozhair 1:40 pm 12 May 09

As usual with a lot of discussions on here, sides are being taken without the benefit of the full facts.

As someone has already stated, a place like the AMC should meet some kind of minimum standards. Are the prisoners complaining because those standards aren’t being met? Buggered if I know. And I doubt anyone here really knows, either.

Are the food portions and standards really inadequate? Maybe. Or maybe the prisoners are just pissed because they can’t have the two Big Mac Greaseburgers with extra fries that they’d normally have on the outside, and are being served some rubbish called vegetables.

While I personally believe that time in gaol should be in no way easy, in the case of the AMC, arguments from both sides at the moment are purely speculation.

Reprobate Reprobate 12:54 pm 12 May 09

Thanks Jakez, you got it.

jakez jakez 12:17 pm 12 May 09

To be fair I think he was being facetious at first and then just making an observation about the ostensible ease of getting bail.

I don’t agree, but I don’t think he was defending ‘guilty until proven innocent’.

Pommy bastard Pommy bastard 12:01 pm 12 May 09

FC said :

Yeah cos making prisoners cold and not giving them enough to eat is really going to stop re-offending. 😐

It baffles me how you guys JUST DON’T GET IT!

Oh we get it alright. It’s just that we don’t see a causal link between getting platefuls of grub and/or having the heating turned up, and reoffending.

Perhaps you can enlighten us?

Are you seriously telling us that giving crims good food and heated rooms will make them say; “Oh gosh, they treated me well in there,I’ve learned me lesson good and proper.It’s the straight and narrow for me from now on guv.”

FC FC 12:00 pm 12 May 09

Reprobate said :

jakez said :

To ignore the usual ‘derrrrrr they’re criminals derrrr assrapings for all of them derrrrrr’ ramblings, I’ll make one quick point and someone can correct me if this is wrong.

AMC should include people who have not yet been convicted of a crime. What conditions should these people be subjected to?

Guilty until proven otherwise. Just like the Gov’t treats anyone who gets a speed camera fine.

Removing the tounge from my cheek, if they’re in there they would have been arrested and before a court already, no? Given our judiciary’s apparent hate for incarcerating anyone anytime, chances are those who are in gaol deserve to be there.

Like that guy in the media recently who has spent around 10 years in gaol and has now had the charges dropped. yeah that guy really deserved it.

the same as all those in America who have been murdered by the state and then proven innocent. they really deserved that too…

Jim Jones Jim Jones 11:56 am 12 May 09

Reprobate said :

jakez said :

To ignore the usual ‘derrrrrr they’re criminals derrrr assrapings for all of them derrrrrr’ ramblings, I’ll make one quick point and someone can correct me if this is wrong.

AMC should include people who have not yet been convicted of a crime. What conditions should these people be subjected to?

Guilty until proven otherwise. Just like the Gov’t treats anyone who gets a speed camera fine.

Removing the tounge from my cheek, if they’re in there they would have been arrested and before a court already, no? Given our judiciary’s apparent hate for incarcerating anyone anytime, chances are those who are in gaol deserve to be there.

Let me get this straight. Your argument is that people are ‘guilty until proven innocent’ and that anyone who is arrested deserves to be treated like sh1t, because ‘they probably did it’.

Where did you get your law degree from?

Reprobate Reprobate 11:45 am 12 May 09

jakez said :

To ignore the usual ‘derrrrrr they’re criminals derrrr assrapings for all of them derrrrrr’ ramblings, I’ll make one quick point and someone can correct me if this is wrong.

AMC should include people who have not yet been convicted of a crime. What conditions should these people be subjected to?

Guilty until proven otherwise. Just like the Gov’t treats anyone who gets a speed camera fine.

Removing the tounge from my cheek, if they’re in there they would have been arrested and before a court already, no? Given our judiciary’s apparent hate for incarcerating anyone anytime, chances are those who are in gaol deserve to be there.

jakez jakez 10:41 am 12 May 09

To ignore the usual ‘derrrrrr they’re criminals derrrr assrapings for all of them derrrrrr’ ramblings, I’ll make one quick point and someone can correct me if this is wrong.

AMC should include people who have not yet been convicted of a crime. What conditions should these people be subjected to?

p1 p1 10:26 am 12 May 09

Yeah cos making prisoners cold and not giving them enough to eat is really going to stop re-offending.

Taken to the extreme it will…

But you have a valid point. Someone has to make a judgement about what a minimum standard is when it comes to food, and there will always be complaints. Not giving them enough clothes to stay warm though should be easy enough to fix.

FC FC 9:49 am 12 May 09

Yeah cos making prisoners cold and not giving them enough to eat is really going to stop re-offending. 😐

It baffles me how you guys JUST DON’T GET IT!

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