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Public AMOS talk on climate change by Greg Holland

By Edge - 14 March 2012 33

Greg Holland and Cindy Bruyere from the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado, USA will be giving a public talk on Thursday 15th March 2012 at the CSIRO Discovery Centre at 5:30pm. Greg Holland has spent his career studying extreeme weather patterns and will be discussing:

  • the difficulties of differentiating climate change from variability
  • the question of when observable human-induced climate change commenced
  • the problems predicting extreeme weather events using climate models

CSIRO Discovery Centre – North Science road, off Clunies Ross st, Acton.

The talk is open to the public and people interested in this topic are encouraged to come along.

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33 Responses to
Public AMOS talk on climate change by Greg Holland
johnboy 2:05 pm 15 Mar 12

dungfungus said :

Just because you are gullible about so called “climate science” this doesn’t give you the right to call me ignorant and an idiot either.

That’s conferred by your ignorance and idiocy.

dungfungus 2:01 pm 15 Mar 12

HenryBG said :

dungfungus said :

Jethro said :

Maybe you should go along Dungfungus… you might learn something.

It is possible that a scientific expert might be able to add to your clearly vast knowledge on the subject.

I have been around a lot longer than these carpet-bagging “climate” scientists Jethro and I have not experienced any of the changes they claim are happening.

That’s an argument from ignorance – one of the more glaringly stupid logical fallacies.

Luckily, people who know what they’re on about actually study the evidence, eg, former head of Central Command, Gen. Anthony Zinni:

“We will pay for this one way or another, […] We will pay to reduce greenhouse gas emissions today, and we’ll have to take an economic hit of some kind.
“Or we will pay the price later in military terms,” he warned. “And that will involve human lives.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Zinni

The facts are very simple: CO2 is increasing in the atmosphere. This filters outgoing radiation, causing more heat to be retained. The Earth is heating up. Sea levels are rising. Glaciers and ice caps are disappearing. A good proportion of the Earth’s inhabitants rely on food produced at low altitudes, and a good proportion of that is threatened by sea level rise on coastlines and up river systems.
Starving people means wars and population migrations.

All because a few cranky idiots are scared of windmills.

If you deny any of that, you’re simply an idiot.

Your hero General Zinni would have contributed more than his share of atmospheric pollution during his distinguished military career and he continues to condone this by acting as CEO of one of the world’s biggest defense companies (they make missiles and bombs, chemical weapons etc.) He is not a “climate scientist” either so his opinion is no more valuable than your’s or mine.
Just because you are gullible about so called “climate science” this doesn’t give you the right to call me ignorant and an idiot either.

HenryBG 12:02 pm 15 Mar 12

dungfungus said :

Jethro said :

Maybe you should go along Dungfungus… you might learn something.

It is possible that a scientific expert might be able to add to your clearly vast knowledge on the subject.

I have been around a lot longer than these carpet-bagging “climate” scientists Jethro and I have not experienced any of the changes they claim are happening.

That’s an argument from ignorance – one of the more glaringly stupid logical fallacies.

Luckily, people who know what they’re on about actually study the evidence, eg, former head of Central Command, Gen. Anthony Zinni:

“We will pay for this one way or another, […] We will pay to reduce greenhouse gas emissions today, and we’ll have to take an economic hit of some kind.
“Or we will pay the price later in military terms,” he warned. “And that will involve human lives.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Zinni

The facts are very simple: CO2 is increasing in the atmosphere. This filters outgoing radiation, causing more heat to be retained. The Earth is heating up. Sea levels are rising. Glaciers and ice caps are disappearing. A good proportion of the Earth’s inhabitants rely on food produced at low altitudes, and a good proportion of that is threatened by sea level rise on coastlines and up river systems.
Starving people means wars and population migrations.

All because a few cranky idiots are scared of windmills.

If you deny any of that, you’re simply an idiot.

colourful sydney rac 12:02 pm 15 Mar 12

dungfungus said :

*throws rocks at the moon to make it go away*.

Of course you know better than scientists. Pfft, what would those eggheads know compared to someone who gets all their ‘facts’ from Alan Jones and Lord Monckton?

dungfungus 11:36 am 15 Mar 12

Jethro said :

Maybe you should go along Dungfungus… you might learn something.

It is possible that a scientific expert might be able to add to your clearly vast knowledge on the subject.

I have been around a lot longer than these carpet-bagging “climate” scientists Jethro and I have not experienced any of the changes they claim are happening.
The spin they are now using is insulting the intelligence of people like me; for example:
– “global warming” (which isn’t happening) has now become “climate change” even though climate by definition is something that changes all the time
– the failure of devastating drought predications have now been blamed on “climate variability” which appears to be a new sub-category of “climate change”
– observable human-induced climate change commenced when impressionable dim-witted, Al Gore mesmerised governments, under instruction from the IPCC started bankrolling “climate” scientists. Then we have our own CSIRO claiming they are able to measure the composition of air 800,000 years ago? Give me a break!
– the problem predicting “extreme weather events” using “climate models” is a non-problem because (extreme) weather (events) will happen today, tomorrow, just as it has from the beginning of time.
– there is no evidence of permanent rising of sea levels due to anything (including “climate change”) yet subsidence of land masses on tectonic plates is an ongoing thing the same as silting up of the estuaries of rivers due to land degradation in catchments.
My “vast knowledge” is limited to facts only; that’s all that should matter for a world that has greater problems to deal with e.g., over population, aged care, etc.
Subsequently, I don’t have any capacity to absorb the tax-payer funded computer modelled spin masquerading as science.

Erg0 9:41 am 15 Mar 12

Lazy I said :

Is ‘extreeme’ more serious than ‘extreme’?

I believe the extremeness is directly proportional to the number of “e”s.

Lazy I 9:31 am 15 Mar 12

Is ‘extreeme’ more serious than ‘extreme’?

Tooks 8:33 am 15 Mar 12

Mr Gillespie said :

….so in the meantime, Juliar’s Carbon Tax is still going ahead regardless of whether or not the evidence presented by these atmospheric researchers can prove Australia can stop climate change.

From someone who gets all his research from the Alan Jones hour on 2CC.

HenryBG 7:28 am 15 Mar 12

Mr Gillespie said :

….so in the meantime, Juliar’s Carbon Tax is still going ahead regardless of whether or not the evidence presented by these atmospheric researchers can prove Australia can stop climate change.

What a ridiculous comment.

SnapperJack 6:40 am 15 Mar 12

The Climate Change conmen continue parroting their BS while the rain keeps pelting down …

Jethro 6:28 am 15 Mar 12

Maybe you should go along Dungfungus… you might learn something.

It is possible that a scientific expert might be able to add to your clearly vast knowledge on the subject.

dungfungus 9:53 pm 14 Mar 12

Will the tooth fairy be there as well?

Mr Gillespie 7:20 pm 14 Mar 12

….so in the meantime, Juliar’s Carbon Tax is still going ahead regardless of whether or not the evidence presented by these atmospheric researchers can prove Australia can stop climate change.

Diggety 7:14 pm 14 Mar 12

Apparently this dude really knows his sh*t.

The issues he’s discussing could help a lot of people wanting to discuss climate change.

HenryBG 6:12 pm 14 Mar 12

Wow – we have a chance to hear some eminent US scientists give a public talk on their area of expertise – I will definitely be going.

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