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Raiders a team for the lower class? [With poll]

By johnboy 2 August 2013 45

It has long been noted that when Raiders fans attend a Brumbies game they are astonished and alarmed by the displays of manners and courtesy from the crowd.

Sometimes they mistake basic decency for a thing they call “lack of atmosphere”.

In The Roar today Kane Cassidy is opining about why Wollongong is a better choice for an A-League team.

His argument seems to come down to a lack of scum in Canberra and what dregs we have already being Raiders fans:

The social makeup of Canberra is much different to Wollongong’s as well, a great deal of Canberra’s residents are upper middle class, privately educated children of higher level public servants meaning plenty of support for Canberra’s Rugby Union team.

I’m not saying that no one from a public school has ever watched or played Union, just that private schools are their bread and butter and the area’s relatively small lower class contingent already has the Canberra Raiders representing them (Call me classist if you want but without Queanbeyan the Raiders wouldn’t exist)

Thoughts readers?

Raiders fans are low class?

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drfelonious 5:46 pm 04 Aug 13

DPH – Don’t tell me I am insecure for taking the bait when the title for this thread is ‘Raiders a team for the lower class’ (complete with poll)! Pot calling the kettle black, much?

Fair enough maybe to say that I fed the troll (but I don’t resile from what I said and shame on Johnboy for being the troll in this case).

I am very much in agreement with you when you say that the biggest handicap for Rugby Union in this country is the ‘inability to connect with the general public’. However the fault does not lie with the ARU – it lies with the rugby supporter base. Even Rugby supporters who should know better – like Johnboy and Peter Fitzsimons – are constantly harping on about ‘lower classes’ and rugby league.

One positive out of this weekend’s result is that the championship went to a city where everyone loves rugby – even the tattooed lower classes. Indeed I suggest that the inclusive NZ rugby culture – a marked contrast to Australia – might have a little something to do with their success?

dph 4:50 pm 04 Aug 13

drfelonious said :

Oh please stop putting tickets on yourself you sad bastard. You are no better than me because you happen to pretend that you like rugby over league even though the standard of competition is so obviously inferior its not funny. Every rugby “fan” watches the NRL grand final but league fans don’t bother to watch rugby. I was thinking about making the effort to watch the rugby final – just to support Canberra – but your attitude has convinced me otherwise. Plus I know I would be bored stupid with the actual game.

Stop with the hypocrisy as well. The only thing worse than a snob is a Canberra born and bred rugby union snob – because you know better (or at least you ought to know better).

I’ve played serious competition in both games and I can assure you that league is a massive step up in terms of the physical demands. Deep down you and all rugby fans know this to be true – that’s why you spend so much time on irrelevancies such as the tattoos/lower class origins of league players.

Israel Folau’s debut was a case in point in terms of exposing the deep-seating inadequacies of union fans. The guy plays one game for the Wallabies and the leather tweed patch crowd was fawning all over him (after initially looking down their nose of course in the standard vomit-inducing rugby way). Of course he only had to do about 1/4 the work he would be expected to do in a league game in order to get that fawning praise.

Wow, the insecurity is strong in this one.

I’ve grown up on Rugby but I follow all sport. I’ll sit down & watch the world series of under water chess if it’s on.

As far as any Rugby fans looking down on League fans, simply put, those people are w*nkers and should be ignored. A major issue for Rugby in this country is the inability to connect with general public & it’s something the ARU sorely needs to address.

Now, onto the whole “Leagues harder than Union, the standards higher, every other sport in the world is for p**fs, Leagues the toughest, greatest game on the planet bar none” attitude.

I always get a good laugh from this. For starters, Rugby League & Rugby Union players generally play both games as they growing up. Players that make it to the highest level are gifted athletes & are usually good at all sports.

Yes, Israel Folau has made an impact in Rugby. He was one of the more outstanding players in the Lions series. Kinda like when he played Rugby League. Remember how dominant he was in League?

Sonny Bill sat on the bench for the All Blacks during his time in Rugby, now he’s arguably the hottest commodity in Rugby League. So does that indicate that Rugby is a higher standard than League? Of course not.

Comparing Union & League is like comparing chalk & cheese. It’ a redundant exercise.

joingler 4:29 pm 04 Aug 13

drfelonious said :

Oh please stop putting tickets on yourself you sad bastard. You are no better than me because you happen to pretend that you like rugby over league even though the standard of competition is so obviously inferior its not funny. Every rugby “fan” watches the NRL grand final but league fans don’t bother to watch rugby. I was thinking about making the effort to watch the rugby final – just to support Canberra – but your attitude has convinced me otherwise. Plus I know I would be bored stupid with the actual game.

Stop with the hypocrisy as well. The only thing worse than a snob is a Canberra born and bred rugby union snob – because you know better (or at least you ought to know better).

I’ve played serious competition in both games and I can assure you that league is a massive step up in terms of the physical demands. Deep down you and all rugby fans know this to be true – that’s why you spend so much time on irrelevancies such as the tattoos/lower class origins of league players.

Israel Folau’s debut was a case in point in terms of exposing the deep-seating inadequacies of union fans. The guy plays one game for the Wallabies and the leather tweed patch crowd was fawning all over him (after initially looking down their nose of course in the standard vomit-inducing rugby way). Of course he only had to do about 1/4 the work he would be expected to do in a league game in order to get that fawning praise.

What a load of crock. There are union fans who will only ever watch union. There are league fans who will only ever watch league. And there are some fans who will watch and enjoy both. Making unfounded claims that the sport you like is the most popular makes you look bad and reflects poorly on your favourite sport.

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