Rally for Same Sex Civil Unions – Sat 2nd Feb, 1pm

simbo 30 January 2008 75

(from a press release)

Join us on February 2nd, 1pm, outside the ACT Legislative Assembly to rally for same sex civil unions. This is a peaceful protest to stand up for the original version of the Civil Unions Bill that allows for official ceremonies. We support the ACT Legislative Assembly’s efforts in discarding archaic prejudiced norms that are not representative of our community. We urge Federal Labor to reject party room pressure and take the ethical vantage point agreed upon by 60% of the Australian population.

In 2008 let’s get the gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender and intersex community the most basic of rights.

Let’s get our civil unions.

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75 Responses to Rally for Same Sex Civil Unions – Sat 2nd Feb, 1pm
simbo simbo 9:24 pm 04 Feb 08

Maelinar, they still have parents, brothers and sisters. All of whom can, and do, contest away.

I understand you’re deeply ensconsed in nappies and parenting, but other famililial relationships matter just as much.

Mælinar Mælinar 10:40 am 04 Feb 08

I would hazard to imply that people in truly homosexual relationships wouldn’t really have contestable wills would they ?

Wife and Children = contest. A true to form homo isn’t going to have that problem unless they have been in a period of denial, notwithstanding they will then have an obligation to look after their ‘mistakes’.

Like it or not, it’s the same with multiple-marriage and children no matter what your sexuality is.

Thumper Thumper 10:18 am 04 Feb 08

What about people who can now only remember what sex was like.


Ari Ari 9:53 am 04 Feb 08

What about people who’s sexual organs are located on their foreheads?

Errr … headrosexual?

Crikey Crikey 9:01 am 04 Feb 08

They say only around 100 people attended. WOW, so much community interest. Considering there would be a few thousand plus gays in Canberra – they aren’t even interested.

Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 11:25 pm 02 Feb 08

I agree Simbo. Marriage exists in many different cultures in many different forms. As far as the law goes, it’s merely a kind of economic bond between two people and to let that be determined by the morality of the churches would not be doing well on the keeping churches and the state separate front.

Crikey Crikey 2:09 pm 01 Feb 08

Troy may have a conflict of interest?

Skidbladnir Skidbladnir 12:46 pm 01 Feb 08

I still think someone should draw out Troy on the topic.
(I am not particularly passionate about the cause, so call dibs on not making any phone calls and staying at home if the weather doesn’t suit me)

Crikey Crikey 12:23 pm 01 Feb 08

Barr will be there rooting for them!

simbo simbo 8:40 pm 31 Jan 08

Yep, fair enough. Which is why divorce should always be available as well. But … well, it’s very easy to throw things away, and anything that makes you give it a second look is worth it in my book…

Sands Sands 8:10 pm 31 Jan 08

But what happens if you made a mistake simbo and you end up being utterly, utterly miserable. Do you feel compelled to stay in a loveless marriage?

Don’t get me wrong, I get all warm and fuzzy by the concept, but just challenge it as I get older. It might make you try a bit harder and I’m all for that but it shouldn’t mean that you HAVE to stay with that one person forever – especially if you don’t love them and you could be happy with someone else.

simbo simbo 8:03 pm 31 Jan 08

It also relates to being able to make hospital visits (the actively hostile parents of a patient can make sure that their child’s same-sex partner can’t visit them, no matter how long the relationship), as well as a number of other rights (one story I was told had a man being denied the right to find out what was happening to his partner’s dog by his vet).

To me, marriage is an english language word that means what happens when two people who love each other come together in front of friends, family and a celebrant or friendly priests (yes, there are many religious people who DO support same-sex unions – some of them in positions of power). So I’d be happy with the word marriage.

Strange as it may seem (and possibly because I am still single) I think it’s not a bad thing for people to decide to share the rest of their lives together, forsaking all others, in good times and bad. And I don’t really give a flying hoot whether they happen to be same sex or opposite sex.

People were getting married well before Christianity came along. Pagans, Buddists, the ancient Romans, Greeks… whatever. Just because some weddings take place in churches doesn’t mean they control it. Just because some people drink wine in a church doesn’t mean that churches have control over the distribution of red wine, either…

Danman Danman 5:55 pm 31 Jan 08

That should be Homosexual and defacto partners folks 🙂

Sorry 🙂

Danman Danman 5:54 pm 31 Jan 08

Will and superannuation and all that crap aside, Partners still do not have enduring power of attorney by default. What this means is that if they are unaware and have not applied for enduring power of attorney they can not make decisions in regards to when to turn of life support, what drugs to administer and any medical decisions where they subject is in no physical or mental state to make those decisions themselves..

howdy howdy 5:28 pm 31 Jan 08

Also, the under superannuation legislation the definition of ‘dependent’ may include same sex couples however once the money goes to the estate another set of rules applies – hence why you are best seeing a lawyer re your estate, not your superfund advisors…

howdy howdy 5:10 pm 31 Jan 08

Oh and giving people equal rights whether it’s women, different races etc etc. Is useful : ) And Australian.

howdy howdy 5:03 pm 31 Jan 08

Leaving money to your estate is one way to have a say in where your money goes yes (although wills can still be bitterly contested) however being married makes your partner the FIRST dependent a superfund will consider paying the money to.

Let’s just say that it essentially would lessen the fight for gay couples when the payment of super is contested.

Sands Sands 4:46 pm 31 Jan 08

I don’t know why but I have the impression those DIY will kits wouldn’t hold up if challenged. But yeah, I’ll get independent advice.

Aurelius Aurelius 4:39 pm 31 Jan 08

So given that, as was pointed out above, a will can be drawn up that allows inheritance etc, what’s all the fuss about? Shouldn’t the government be using it’s column inches for something useful?

howdy howdy 4:08 pm 31 Jan 08

Plus watch for places that recommend things because they get commission for it.

: P

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