Red-light runners generate more than $1.5 million in fines

Darron Marks so by your logic, you only abide by the rules if you think you’re going to get caught if you break them? Then by the same logic it’s fine to run red lights where there are no signs and cameras…

Everytime someone runs a red light is the potential for a serious accident. Obviously this is a particularly dangerous intersection due to the need for it having a speed and red light camera.

So if people are still running this red light consistently we should be putting up more signage in order to prevent this from happening in the first place.

Your assumption that I am somehow in favor of people running red lights is a strawman argument. I mean nothing of the sort prevention is always better than revenue.

I know the stove is hot. Dont need a sign to tell me not to touch

My argument still stands this specific speed/red light camera doesn’t have much in the way of warning signage leading up to the intersection. I am therefore inferring that the considerable income generated is more to do with the lack of warning signage.

I am not saying there isn’t any signage I am just pointing out that obviously it isn’t very effective so more signage that stands out more is obviously required.

So if we want to discourage this behaviour we should look at increasing the signage. The revenue generated is a clear indication more needs to be done to prevent this behaviour in the future.

This is in no way a justification or post that supports that people should speed or run redlights. It is a simple reflection on the fact stated that more needs to be done to discourage this behaviour at this specific intersection.

This sign maybe needs to be updated to make it standout more. And maybe a sign closer to the red light cameras ?

It isn’t like we don’t have enough money generated by these infringements that we cannot invest in better signage ?

Something like this for example

Darron Marks it’s a red light mate. Why is signage needed at all?!

Drew why do they install signage at all if your theory is that we all inherently should not need signage.

It is a deterrent from adverse behaviour. I am not a sociologist as to my signage is needed at all.

But given the revenue generated it is pretty obvious more signage might reduce the frequency of people running that red light.

Drew Eppelstun because people are running it in record numbers… It’s not rocket science.

I know it is pretty basic logic not very difficult to work out that maybe it might be best to you know put up a bigger or better sign 🙄

Mark Beech – that made me laugh! Have you always had this philosophy?

hahaha. Looks like the system works. No tickets for almost two decades!

Mark Beech – that was a good lesson learnt then. Well done x

Darcy Ryan if they got a fine, they jumped the light, which would increase the risk of an accident. So the imposition of a specific fine cannot reduce the death toll in its self, because the offence, which could result in a fatal accident has already taken place. However, if having received a fine they changed their behaviour, then the fine may have contributed to reducing the death toll.

Darcy Ryan who cares. You run you pay. 😆