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Road Rule Reminder. 77: Give way to buses pulling out from bus stops.

By Sgt.Bungers 13 January 2010 46

A rule that in my experience, many drivers in Canberra are unaware of, or simply choose to ignore.

77 Giving way to buses.
(1) A driver driving on a length of road in a built-up area, in the left lane or left line of traffic, or in a bicycle lane on the far left side of the road, must give way to a bus in front of the driver if:
(a) the bus has stopped, or is moving slowly, at the far left side of the road, on a shoulder of the road, or in a bus stop bay; and
(b) the bus displays a give way to buses sign and the right direction indicator lights of the bus are operating; and
(c) the bus is about to enter or proceed in the lane or line of traffic in which the driver is driving.
Offence provision.

In the ACT, a driver of a vehicle who fails to give way to a bus is liable to loose 3 demerit points.

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G-Fresh 9:14 am 25 May 12

“Give way to buses pulling out from bus stops. “

Nahh.

Innovation 8:24 am 25 May 12

IhateWHINGERS said :

As a car driver and bus driver I know this is an old post but let me give you some info.
Road rule 77 applies to busses pulling out in to the left lane only.
The rule about change of direction does not apply here as the GIVE WAY rule takes precidence. And a bus stop is part of the roadway and as such a continuation of the lane reserved for the use of authorized vehicles
All drivers are required to slow and give way to a bus leaving a bus stop. It is no diffrent from approching an intersection with a give way sign… slow and stop to give way if required too. IE slow if you see a bus at a stop, as soon as the bus indicates you must stop and give way to the bus.
“THE SIGN OF THE BACK OF THE BUS “IS” A GIVE WAY SIGN”
BTW the words “right of way” do not appear in any road rule anywhere in Australia. it is always vehicle ‘A’ must GIVE WAY to vehicle ‘B’
so in this instance vehicle ‘A’ (car on road) MUST i repeat MUST give way to the bus leaving the curb to enter the first line of traffic. no ifs or butts

Dome said :

I got the passenger side of my car cleaned up late last year by a bus pulling out (from behind another bus at a bus stop) into the right lane of a dual carriageway, and for quite a while ACTION refused to accept liability. The insurance company finally nailed them.

News to me, I have never heard of that occuring, only time was when the insurer proved the bus driver failed to indicate,

I have had 3 people hit my bus never once even worried me regards fault,first time they called the cops and the cops gave them 2 fines neg driving and fail to give way. In fact i get a better insurance deal because I am a professional Driver and know the law better than most.

OT also never a good idea to overtake a turning bus or truck you get hit your fault.

Like other vehicles, bus drivers should indicate for at least five seconds before taking action such as pulling out into traffic (and like many drivers – a large percentage of bus drivers don’t indicate for long enough). As far as I am aware, unless indicated on the bus, there is not a lower speed limit when overtaking buses although it is sensible to slow down a bit when passing any stationary vehicle including cars.

If the car is close to the back of the bus and about to pass or is even beside the bus then I would have thought that they should only give way to the bus if it is safe to do so.

IhateWHINGERS 10:17 pm 24 May 12

As a car driver and bus driver I know this is an old post but let me give you some info.
Road rule 77 applies to busses pulling out in to the left lane only.
The rule about change of direction does not apply here as the GIVE WAY rule takes precidence. And a bus stop is part of the roadway and as such a continuation of the lane reserved for the use of authorized vehicles
All drivers are required to slow and give way to a bus leaving a bus stop. It is no diffrent from approching an intersection with a give way sign… slow and stop to give way if required too. IE slow if you see a bus at a stop, as soon as the bus indicates you must stop and give way to the bus.
“THE SIGN OF THE BACK OF THE BUS “IS” A GIVE WAY SIGN”
BTW the words “right of way” do not appear in any road rule anywhere in Australia. it is always vehicle ‘A’ must GIVE WAY to vehicle ‘B’
so in this instance vehicle ‘A’ (car on road) MUST i repeat MUST give way to the bus leaving the curb to enter the first line of traffic. no ifs or butts

Dome said :

I got the passenger side of my car cleaned up late last year by a bus pulling out (from behind another bus at a bus stop) into the right lane of a dual carriageway, and for quite a while ACTION refused to accept liability. The insurance company finally nailed them.

News to me, I have never heard of that occuring, only time was when the insurer proved the bus driver failed to indicate,

I have had 3 people hit my bus never once even worried me regards fault,first time they called the cops and the cops gave them 2 fines neg driving and fail to give way. In fact i get a better insurance deal because I am a professional Driver and know the law better than most.

OT also never a good idea to overtake a turning bus or truck you get hit your fault.

dvaey 2:52 am 22 Jan 10

TP 3000 said :

Apparently in Christchurch (Kaiapoi in particular) in New Zealand there is no law stating other vehicles are to give way to buses pulling out of bus stops. So on roads like Athllon Drive in peak hour, buses have to either risk being hit or wait for a break in traffic.

Beside the point, but the bus stops on Athllon Dr are located immediately after traffic lights.

How is ‘risk being hit or wait for a break in traffic’ any different to what every other road user experiences? Im sure every semi-trailer would love to have traffic just stop for them, but generally they understand the laws of physics arent put aside by the laws of ACTION. Just because the law says you have right of way, it doesnt mean its a good idea to pull out into the flow of traffic without making sure the way is clear. Everyone remember being told repeatedly ‘headcheck’ while learning to drive?

I actually sent a written complaint about a bus driver pulling out from the bus stop near Mawson, while 2 lanes of traffic were travelling at 80km/hr through the lights. The bus driver attempted to pull straight out into the traffic, only to realise the mayhem he would cause, and pulled back into his lane. I was advised the driver would be interviewed and counselled.

Devil_n_Disquiz 6:09 pm 17 Jan 10

TP 3000 Its not just the town. The whole country 🙂 There is no ‘give way to buses’ law.

Mordd 2:34 pm 17 Jan 10

matt31221 said :

And what do you know about driving eh? According to your post re: the fire at Fyshwick you reveal that you are a bus catcher. You were right btw, somebody that knows Fyshwick would know exactly where the photos were taken. But anyways, Agree to disagree. Moral to the story, give way to action buses.

Yes I catch buses a lot as its a more sustainable form of transport. Doesn’t mean I don’t know whats right and wrong though. Btw is that meant to be some kind of a threat there? So you know where I work, are you going to come and try and harrass me at my work now are you? Bring it on Mr Law Abiding, every time you try to justify yourself you throw out another vigilante type response to justify my point, you really are making this too easy.

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