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Road Rules Refresher

Grail 3 May 2010 44

There was a four car pileup on the Tuggeranong Parkway this morning, just inside the roadworks. The traffic was jammed up right down to Sulwood Drive, in my case extending my trip to work by 45 minute.

It might be worth bringing up the topic of safe driving up at BBQs and dinner table discussion. Little pointers like the two second gap, and abiding by construction site speed limits.

Sure, someone else might jump in that gap between you and the car in front. Just remind yourself that doing 120km/h on the Parkway during peak hour is impossible anyway, and even on a good day it will only save you 1 minute against a trip following the speed limit all the way. For people like me who live in North Cooma and travel to Civic and beyond for work, that’s one minute out of a half hour trip – which will be lost at the first set of traffic lights anyway.

Another issue to remember is that when you are driving a car, you should be thinking only about driving the car. Don’t go through the list of things to do when you get to work – you have the office for that, and thinking about the office while you’re in the car driving may mean you don’t get to the office today. Don’t dwell on whether you should have ordered the quiche for dinner with that hot date last night – she’ll call you back or she won’t: if she calls you back, it would help your chances for a second date if you were still alive.

Do you have any other ideas for helping people be safer on the roads during the commute to and from work?


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Voice of Reason 7:33 pm 17 May 10

Do you have any other ideas for helping people be safer on the roads during the commute to and from work?

Catch the bus.

One 10:21 pm 06 May 10

ditto to all I love this topic

wats a round-about?

Is that the thing without CCTV where cars and trucks cut lanes without notice?

Someone should tell the Gov to build round-abouts that can fit the size of the largest user instead of the smallest

Listers_Cat 11:20 pm 05 May 10

@ Jim Jones, I might also add

Using your indicator might give away your intentions to the enemy (i.e. other drivers) and should therefore only be used for calculated disinformation. When heading straight through a roundabout, or when turning left, be sure to use your right indicator so as to disguise your true intentions

Md 8:42 pm 05 May 10

Here’s a vdo “Drive Safely” that’s not for the faint of heart. It is a fairly graphic video but a true and accurate depiction of how accidents occur and the far-reaching consequences. It did actually slow me down on the roads and did make a difference. Hope it does the same for other drivers. Once again, not for the faint hearted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKm0s2xi3YU

buzz819 12:05 pm 05 May 10

ConanOfCooma said :

Two second gap? How many people do you want to kill with your vehicle, you moron? It’s called a minimum safe distance, and it’s variable, not measured in seconds.

You do realize that 2 seconds and 100km/h is going to be a lot larger than 2 seconds at 50 km/h?

It is what is taught well everywhere.

Obviously not in Cooma North or North Cooma or country bumkin I only go through it to get to the snow, town….

I notice that your rank is newbie, in life I’m guessing….

Md 11:00 am 05 May 10

ConanOfCooma said :

To begin with, it’s called Cooma North. You can even check on Google maps, you might actually learn something.

Two second gap? How many people do you want to kill with your vehicle, you moron? It’s called a minimum safe distance, and it’s variable, not measured in seconds.

It is actually measured in seconds and is the ‘3 second rule’.Road safety initiative of Auburn Council and Parramatta City Council in association with Blacktown City Council and Holroyd City Council put out the following info in January 2008, which should clarify that for you. It is a good refresher too.
http://www.auburn.nsw.gov.au/uploadedFiles/Stopping%20Distance%20v08(1).pdf

Md 10:36 am 05 May 10

Sgt.Bungers said :

If we all drove as though our cars had no roof, doors, windows, A/B/C/D pillars, seatbelts or airbags and was simply an engine mounted in a frame with wheels and a seat… we’d be significantly more pleasant to one another whilst driving, as well as behave in a significantly safer manner.

Can anyone imagine themselves driving significantly fast in a vehicle like the one pictured below:

http://media.motortopia.com/files/9642/vehicle/4754f07d6bddc/Dune_Buggy.jpg

🙂

I hadn’t imagined myself driving the buggy..but if I took it on road, I would certainly drive differently and way more cautoiusly.

Thumper 9:49 am 05 May 10

Slipstreaming saves petrol so one should tail gate at 110kph as much as possible. Besides, it will reduce your carbon footprint.

Spideydog 9:44 am 05 May 10

ConanOfCooma said :

Two second gap? How many people do you want to kill with your vehicle, you moron? It’s called a minimum safe distance, and it’s variable, not measured in seconds.

You may need to rethink that statement ……

Madame Workalot 9:27 am 05 May 10

ConanOfCooma said :

You think it’s bad battling the morons of suburban Canberra? Have you ever had a Deanes bus pull out 20 metres in front of you when you are doing 100Ks? Yeah, anyone that pulls out of Royalla or that Queanbeyan turnoff have severe driving disabilities, and I will laugh heartily the day the police actually decide to pay attention to those roads.

I’m nodding in furious agreement at this. I don’t have any problems with slowing down for people pulling out of there in the morning because it’s pretty busy on that road now, and otherwise they wouldn’t be able to get out. However, I do have a problem when people pull out of there when you are almost at the intersection, and I have to swerve or, if I’m lucky, I can slam the brakes on hard enough to avoid running into them. Have you people never driven in highway conditions before?

But it’s not worth losing sleep over – I drive that road expecting the unexpected now, and normally substantially reduce my speed around those intersections. Problem solved – for now….

Now for something completely different, an interesting observation this morning. Most mornings I take Mugga Lane from Hume to Hindmarsh, and it’s generally pretty busy – you’re lucky to get above 70kmh. However this morning, with a very wet road, the average speed was at least 90kmh. What is with that?

Woody Mann-Caruso 8:38 pm 04 May 10

Right hand lane is for overtaking (it’s law) – and yes they do drive like they own the road.

The road rules – you fail at them. Better put your license back in the Kelloggs box.

sepi has already covered Rule 130(1). Pay close attention to Rule 130(2)(f) and (g):

The driver must not drive in the right lane unless: (stay with me here…unless:)

– the traffic in each other lane is congested; or
– the traffic in every lane is congested.

Now have a guess what the Monaro is in peak hour? That’s right – congested. So guess which lane we can drive in? Whichever we damn well feel like. Now you have to live with being wrong as well as being behind and 8 seconds late.

and yes they do drive like they own the road.

You mean they actually drive on it? The gall, the cheek, the arrogance. Don’t they know you need that lane for speeding? How else are you supposed to compensate for your many physical and intellectual shortcomings?

Clown Killer 7:58 pm 04 May 10

let your true bogan ome out when you’re leaving the drive-thru at McDonalds (Manuka, Weston and Dickson if my memory serves me correctly): Ignore the sign that says No Right Turn and let the cars in the drive-thru queue bank up as you wait for an opportunity to turn right. Extra points for laying a little rubber as you take off. Extra bonus points if you cut someone off.

Wraith 6:19 pm 04 May 10

I love these threads on this sort of topic, its entertaining

Thoroughly Smashed 4:55 pm 04 May 10

goose said :

Right hand lane is for overtaking (it’s law)

Only where the speed limit is greater than 80km/hr, or where there’s a “keep left unless overtaking” sign.

ConanOfCooma said :

Two second gap? How many people do you want to kill with your vehicle, you moron? It’s called a minimum safe distance, and it’s variable, not measured in seconds.

If you’re going to abuse someone on the internet while getting things wrong yourself at the same time, you are supposed to spell it “moran”. The two (or three, depending on where you’re from) second gap is a general guideline for safe following distance; it provides a buffer for the driver’s reaction time. You do realise that the consequence of a fixed time gap results in the distance of the gap increasing with speed, right? That’s the point.

sepi 4:21 pm 04 May 10

And if you are a P-Plater in a fancy new car, stop as close behind bomby old cars as you can, especially on slopes at traffic lights. These old cars may roll back a bit on starting, and also take off slower than your newbie-mobile – dont’ give any thought to that at all!

ConanOfCooma 4:06 pm 04 May 10

To begin with, it’s called Cooma North. You can even check on Google maps, you might actually learn something.

Two second gap? How many people do you want to kill with your vehicle, you moron? It’s called a minimum safe distance, and it’s variable, not measured in seconds.

You think it’s bad battling the morons of suburban Canberra? Have you ever had a Deanes bus pull out 20 metres in front of you when you are doing 100Ks? Yeah, anyone that pulls out of Royalla or that Queanbeyan turnoff have severe driving disabilities, and I will laugh heartily the day the police actually decide to pay attention to those roads.

goose 4:03 pm 04 May 10

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

Couldn’t possibly be because the Monaro is congested in the mornings and they’re maintaining a safe following distance, could it, goose?

I love comments about ‘owning the road’ from people who think the right hand lane and the speed limit are personal entitlements.

Right hand lane is for overtaking (it’s law) – and yes they do drive like they own the road.

Jim Jones 4:00 pm 04 May 10

Driving in Canberra
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– Using your indicator might give away your intentions to the enemy (i.e. other drivers) and should therefore only be used for calculated disinformation. If you must use your indicators, do not indicate until you are at least halfway through changing lanes/turning. [Bonus points for cutting someone off and indicating after the fact].

– Never drive in the lane that has the exit you intend you use (this is usually the slowest lane, and often involves a queue). Drive in the fastest lane and cut in at the last moment. [Bonus points for doing this on a regular basis and also referring disparagingly to refugees as ‘queue jumpers’].

– Drive as close as possible to the car in front of you. This not only prevents other drivers changing lanes, but also makes the car in front of you go faster. [Bonus points: In the event of an accident, insist that you are completely blameless and that fault lies with the driver of the car in front of you for “braking too quickly”].

– The speed limit throughout the ACT is actually the posted speed limit plus another 20 kph. This limit is to be considered a minimum speed limit, and any driver failing to maintain this speed is morally equivalent to a child rapist who drowns puppies while writing songs for Lady Gaga. [Bonus points for dangerously overtaking drivers who have the temerity to drive at the posted sign limit while making furious gesticulations and screaming injunctions to “keep left”]

– In rainy/wet conditions, drive faster. This will get you home quicker, which means that you’ll spend less time on the roads. Spending less time on the road means there is significantly less time for an accident to occur.

– Construction site speed limits are for chumps.

– Never let anyone pass you, ever.

Woody Mann-Caruso 3:02 pm 04 May 10

By the way:

Total length of 100km/h zone (from prison to Hindmarsh overpass): about 3km (Google Maps)
Time to travel at 100 km/h: 108 seconds
Time to travel at 90 km/h: 120 seconds

Those 12 seconds must be really important. Factor in accelerating from / decelerating to 80km/h at either end and it’s probably more like 8 seconds. I bet every one of them burns with impotent rage.

Woody Mann-Caruso 2:46 pm 04 May 10

Couldn’t possibly be because the Monaro is congested in the mornings and they’re maintaining a safe following distance, could it, goose?

I love comments about ‘owning the road’ from people who think the right hand lane and the speed limit are personal entitlements.

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