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Road safety goes back to the drawing board

By johnboy - 28 May 2010 30

This time last year Mr Stanhope was aiming for a “vision zero” of road deaths.

This sort of thing often makes one a hostage to fortune and with the total so far this year already above last year’s (which had no vision at all) the Chief is looking for answers.

The ACT Government is to dig deep and discover how aware Canberrans really are about risks on the road, and will use the research to improve its safety education campaigns, Chief Minister Jon Stanhope said today.

“This research will help the Government to identify what Canberrans do and don’t know about safe driving practices and the effectiveness of Government campaigns aimed at changing driver behaviour – such as the current driver distraction television campaign,” Mr Stanhope said,

“With the ACT’s road toll already exceeding last year’s total, barely five months into the year the ACT Government wants to know what is going on in the minds of Canberra drivers.

The results are expected in July.

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lrende01 10:07 am 10 Jun 10

There should be a reward system that rewards ACT drivers who:
1. keep left unless overtaking… or turning at the NEXT intersection only.
2. merge lanes in the appropriate manner, as opposed to speeding up and pushing in in a way that makes the driver beside them brake and nearly get rear-ended.
3. drive under 60km/hr in 40km/hr road work zones.


And yes, ACT drivers, because it seems to be the NSW drivers that have the most trouble coping with this phenomenon.

georgesgenitals 11:46 am 01 Jun 10

ML-585 said :

The people who won’t like the zero tolerance policy are the ones driving around with only one headlight working, fail to indicate at roundabouts and park in loading zones.

Or the ones who are scared they’ll get nicked for having having drugs in their system (because it’s not a safety issue).

ML-585 10:30 am 01 Jun 10

The people who won’t like the zero tolerance policy are the ones driving around with only one headlight working, fail to indicate at roundabouts and park in loading zones.

georgesgenitals 8:48 pm 30 May 10

ML-585 said :

The best way to improve road safety: PUT MORE POLICE ON THE ROAD! And adopt a zero tolerance policy.

Whilst I agree, I think you’ll find lots of people don’t like the zero tolerance policy.

The reality is that lots of people are simply not fearful of being caught by an unmarked vehicle. Further, we should be thinking more of how to make roads safer, as opposed to getting all excited because we see someone else getting booked.

I’d be happy with better skills training, driving test on each license renewal and more marked police on the road. These things would be a good start, but unlikely to get serious consideration, because they are:
a) expensive; and
b) harder to measure than the number of people caught speeding or drink driving.

TP 3000 7:42 pm 30 May 10

Put more Traffic Police on the road!!

Over the last few years I’ve noticed the speed camera vans are out more often, but the Police are on the roads less. I’ve even noticed lately speed camera vans sitting in the spot the Police use to hide on Yarra Glen.

It WOULD NOT bother me if I saw someone pulled up by the Police in the middle of peak hour if it made the roads safer. That would be done by unmarked Police cyclists riding past all the cars stopped & photographing someone on a mobile phone, etc. They would radio for a Police motorbike to scoot up through the traffic & nab them.

ML-585 1:09 pm 30 May 10

While some Canberra drivers probably don’t know half the road rules anyway, the biggest cause of poor driving on our roads is that there is little fear of getting caught. Driver training and changes to demerit points make little difference is you’re not going to be caught doing the wrong thing. The best way to improve road safety: PUT MORE POLICE ON THE ROAD! And adopt a zero tolerance policy.

merlin bodega 11:31 am 30 May 10

Getting back to the topic of zero deaths related to motor vehicle use, this is probably only going to happen when we have zero cars and zero roads. the idea is so stupid as to be more indicative of the comment provider than the state of our traffic.

Roads and cars are dangerous places to be and made much more dangerous by users who either don’t get that point or who fundamentally should not be there due to their personal circumstances through things like drug and alcohol or are just not fit to drive because of their health. Agree with all the people who think the system should be set up to deal with these people rather than as a revenue raiser on mugs who go marginally over the speed limit on deserted roads.

What about all the people whose driving skills are diminished through aging they are a hazard? They may not have a lot of accidents but fuck don’t they cause a lot. Pity the poor cyclist for these guys. They took me and my bike off the road forever after the last cross into the cycle lane that pushed me up the gutter – and I was the one who had the blood test in hospital! Heaven forbid these fuckers should be denied their inalienable right to community mobility.

Stanhope – you’re dreaming.

Horrid 12:55 pm 29 May 10

Is this the same Jon Stanhope who is actively planning to make Northbourne Avenue dangerous for drivers cyclists and pedestrians, by removing the cycle lanes on Northbourne Avenue that have kept cyclists safe for many years- thereby forcing them either into car lanes or onto paths used by pedestrians?

54-11 10:50 am 29 May 10

troll-sniffer (#5) has got it exactly right. I’ve said the same on RA before.

The blame lies fairly and squarely with Stanhope and his traffic “experts”; thay have actively encouraged the toll to rise.

By expending virtually all their enforcement efforts on fining some poor bastard doing 3-4km/h over the speed limit, they have told every other bogan driver they can keep driving exactly as they like – talking on the mobile, driving with their wanker lights on and blinding other road users, changing lanes without looking or indicating, and generally being ignorant pricks.

Until the emphasis is off minor speeding and onto the really dangerous, killing stuff, then the road toll will continue to rise.

It’s simple, Stanhope – forget revenue-raising and start doing something about standard-raising.

MudLark 8:46 am 29 May 10

Perhaps they need to look at the groupings within the list of people who died. From memory, there were several older people, a couple of cyclists, several motorbike riders and the 4 people who died in the Narrabundah crash. So the question might actually be: what was it about those people and the circumstances in which they died that might be relevant to the accident? For example, a couple of Saturday mornings ago, there was a group of middle-aged male cyclists chatting and riding two abreast in the cycle lane (and intruding into the car lane) heading south on Northbourne Avenue. It would have been very easy for them to have come into contact with a truck/car.

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