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Road safety goes back to the drawing board

By johnboy - 28 May 2010 30

This time last year Mr Stanhope was aiming for a “vision zero” of road deaths.

This sort of thing often makes one a hostage to fortune and with the total so far this year already above last year’s (which had no vision at all) the Chief is looking for answers.

The ACT Government is to dig deep and discover how aware Canberrans really are about risks on the road, and will use the research to improve its safety education campaigns, Chief Minister Jon Stanhope said today.

“This research will help the Government to identify what Canberrans do and don’t know about safe driving practices and the effectiveness of Government campaigns aimed at changing driver behaviour – such as the current driver distraction television campaign,” Mr Stanhope said,

“With the ACT’s road toll already exceeding last year’s total, barely five months into the year the ACT Government wants to know what is going on in the minds of Canberra drivers.

The results are expected in July.

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Road safety goes back to the drawing board
Pork Hunt 5:08 pm 28 May 10

Every road death is a random event with its own set of circumstances so it hard to find a solution to cover all occasions.

Further, you cannot legislate against individual acts of stupidity…

p1 4:06 pm 28 May 10

astrojax said :

no, you’re either a ‘well trained’ driver or you ain’t….

This really isn’t true either. Some people have lots of training and would be poor drivers by anyone’s standards. Many people have relativity little training (older people quite possibly have never had a lesson or real driving test in their lives), yet manage well enough.

nicnacvb 3:42 pm 28 May 10

For years I’ve thought the best way to make drivers think before they break the law would be to A. make it easier to take their license. And B. At the end of a license suspension they should have to go back through the whole process. Written test, L plates, driving test and then P plates for 3 years. All at the cost of the person who broke the law!!

When a person gets their license back after a suspension, its often yippee and lets go for a drag race kind of attitude. Their license is handed back to them on a silver platter with no effort required by the suspendee. If they had to go through the whole process to get their license back after a suspension it would be a much greater pain in the ass and they probably wouldn’t do it more than once.

If you’ve done something stupid enough or often enough to lose your license then we should be making it as onerous as possible to EARN it back.

Of course, this doesn’t solve the problem of idiots who drive unlicenced. But that’s where RAPID comes in to catch the unlicenced idiots. Using the revenue generated by more people paying to go through the licensing system.

Who can spot the flaws?

astrojax 2:05 pm 28 May 10

You’re either a good driver or you aint!

no, you’re either a ‘well trained’ driver or you ain’t, cap’n… what we need is a lot more education in manners/attitude from an early age, in both driving and behaviour generally – much bad driving mirrors the inherent attitudes of drivers who should be taken out the back for the good thrashing they never got in school.

Captain RAAF 1:48 pm 28 May 10

Driver training, speed camera’s, all a waste of effort in reducing road tolls.

The only real answer is identifying crap drivers via repeat offences and cancelling their licences! You can, easily, drive quite safely at 100 in an 80 zone or 130 in a 110 zone as long as you abide by simple rules;

Drive to the road/traffic conditions;
Display competant driving abilities.

Most accidents are caused by someone who abuses or fails to meet one or both of the above criteria.

Having pumped thousands of dollars into the Victorian economy as a young man via speeding fines, I still haven’t caused an accident in over 20 years of driving yet I’ve been in a handful and they’ve all been caused by someone who lacked skill or abused the road conditions. Driver training will never be comprehensive enough to properly educate people and would only ever be a band-aid solution for tree hugging hippies to feel good about themselves. You’re either a good driver or you aint!

I wonder what the stats are in relation to the population regarding crashes now that there are less larger cars on the roads and people throw their little buzz boxes about like they are a wannabe Fangio?

shirty_bear 1:11 pm 28 May 10

Clearly speed cameras are about revenue, not safety (idiot political rhetoric notwithstanding). At heavy traffic intersections, the red light camera component makes sense. On a clear stretch of road, speed cameras are voluntary taxation pure and simple. And passing a speed camera on a road like Tuggy Pkwy is a green light to accelerate … the danger zone is clearly defined. I’m surprised they catch anyone at all.

Driver training is the only answer. But that costs $$, as opposed to earning them for the gummint. They’ve even outsourced licence testing to driving schools – it’s never been easier for an incompetent (or borderline) driver to get their wheels.

When I got my motorbike licence, I had to do 2 days (from memory … it was decades ago) of Stay Upright courses. No idea if that’s still the case. I thought then – and still do – that similar for car licences ought to be bare minimum.

Doubt you’ll ever eliminate the Mully factor though.

astrojax 12:51 pm 28 May 10

Mr Evil said :

Make car registration $3000/annum = less cars on the road = (possible) drop in road fatalities = more money for public artworks.

I should run for ACT Labor!

fewer cars, mssr evil – nonetheless, i’d vote for you! 🙂

neanderthalsis 12:18 pm 28 May 10

If you take out the 4 killed in when Mully went on his GTA inspired rampage, we’re not doing too badly.

It’s hard to plan ahead when you have wankers like Mully intent on causing mass carnage on the roads.

georgesgenitals 12:03 pm 28 May 10

Skills training – we need some.

damien haas 12:01 pm 28 May 10

Very interesting article in the Sunday CT about road accidents in the ACT over the last 5 years, i would have liked a little more depth instead of the huge graphic, but it made some valid points. The distribution of fatal accidents was interesting – i wonder if thats where the speed cameras are sited ?

One of the main problems with these types of campaigns is that they are doomed to failure, guilt and selective memory. I think this every time a ‘nowaste by 2010’ garbage truck rumbles down my street.

troll-sniffer 12:01 pm 28 May 10

To add to chewy’s little gem:

Until the road ‘safety’ engineers and consultants realise that the current all-encompassing focus on speed to the exclusion of more meaningful campaigns is misguided, they can be lumped together with the bureaucrats who insist that prohibition is winning the war on drugs, and classified as dinosaurs.

Tailgating and other anti-social behaviours, inattention, poor visual techniques and the like, and the virtually unsolvable ‘don’t give a f*ck’ attitude of a fair percentage of bogan heroes cause far more accidents than reasonable speeding. Sure, combined, the speeding can add to the severity of an accident caused by the other factors, but slipping a few klicks over the posted limit on a quiet open road is perfectly safe.

To compound the problem, Canberra is full of speed limit anomalies that only serve to make motorists treat all speed limits with contempt. For instance coming into the ACT section of the Sutton Road, a wide open and relatively good condition rural road, the speed limit drops to 80km/hr. Near the airport, after the Brindabella roundabouts heading to Queanbeyan, the limit stays at 70km/hr all the way to the Fairbairn lights. Monaro Crescent in Red Hill, a road wide enough to park a semi sideways, and relatively straight, has a 50km/hr limit. There are many many more examples of these inconsistencies across the territory, and they only serve to make the average motorist treat all speed zones as possibly ridiculous until demonstrated otherwise.

Mr Evil 11:45 am 28 May 10

Make car registration $3000/annum = less cars on the road = (possible) drop in road fatalities = more money for public artworks.

I should run for ACT Labor!

chewy14 11:11 am 28 May 10

This is what I hate about 99% of road campaigns.

If we have a low road toll then they all clamour over themselves to take credit because their campaigns are “obviously working”.

When we have a year with a higher toll, which considering the variability of road deaths isn’t surprising, we need a review as to why drivers aren’t paying attention to our wonderful road safety campaigns.

The results of which are usually higher penalties, fines and more speed cameras

I’ll give them a tip:

Nothing you do is going to make a flying f*ck of a difference to the way people drive on the road unless more actual driver training is included. Unfortunately for us that would mean actually spending money rather than finding more ways to raise revenue.

Wraith 10:46 am 28 May 10

Oh no, here we go again

Mr Waffle 10:30 am 28 May 10

“the ACT Government wants to know what is going on in the minds of Canberra drivers.”

They’re busy thinking about what they’re texting to their friends or about the **** who just cut them off, duh.

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