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Road toll skips another one

By johnboy - 23 May 2011 37

A 73-year-old Griffith man who died in The Canberra Hospital following a collision in Fyshwick on Friday, May 13 will not be counted towards the road toll.

The man was transported by ACT Ambulance to The Canberra Hospital where on admittance his condition deteriorated and he went into a coma. He died on Tuesday, May 17.

A post-mortem revealed the man had a heart attack which caused the collision. As such his death will not be included in the ACT’s road toll.

The road toll remains at seven for this year.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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Road toll skips another one
ScienceRules 6:32 pm 24 May 11

jadie360 said :

ScienceRules said :

There are few things more terrifying than “my Gran still drives herself around and she’s 87. Isn’t that amazing?” No, it’s irresponsible and dangerous.

Oh for heavens sake …. my mother is 82 and still drives as well as most other people I know. Stop generalising.

Well of course it’s a generalisation and there are exceptions. But just because she’s your Gran doesn’t mean she’s a good driver. And sorry, at 82 she shouldn’t be on the road.

EvanJames 12:19 pm 24 May 11

wildturkeycanoe said :

Some of the elderly drivers I’ve seen around the place are more dangerous than learners and drunk drivers, but I bet if they ever get pulled over for doing 30km/h below the speed limit,

I very much doubt that Road Carnage will ensue from people driving 30 km/hr below the magical limit.

Besides, you can fix this by tailgating them, which is a safe and legal driving practice employed by all the good drivers.

colourful sydney rac 11:46 am 24 May 11

Mr Gillespie said :

Another less round of ammunition in defence of speed cameras.

Yes and another less round in the amunition in defence of breathalyzers.

Seriously what are you on about? How do you turn every post about traffic/driving/accidents/heart attacks into another example of your Jihad against speed cameras?

What hapenned to you? One speeding ticket too many?

Tooks 11:32 am 24 May 11

jadie360 said :

ScienceRules said :

There are few things more terrifying than “my Gran still drives herself around and she’s 87. Isn’t that amazing?” No, it’s irresponsible and dangerous.

Oh for heavens sake …. my mother is 82 and still drives as well as most other people I know. Stop generalising.

My grandmother is in her 80s and has never had a prang, however I know she’s a terrible driver!

jadie360 10:48 am 24 May 11

ScienceRules said :

There are few things more terrifying than “my Gran still drives herself around and she’s 87. Isn’t that amazing?” No, it’s irresponsible and dangerous.

Oh for heavens sake …. my mother is 82 and still drives as well as most other people I know. Stop generalising.

LeatherJen 10:00 am 24 May 11

johnboy said :

A major issue with this stuff is that older drivers are less likely to get into crashes, not because of good skills or reflexes (and stiff necks with age are a real problem for head checks) but because they’re incredibly cautious.

But when they do get into a collision they’re much more likely to die because of their frailty.

So road safety experts hate the extra fatalities blowing out their misapplied KPIs.

But really they’re not generating much extra danger out there on average.

I had a very elderly gent come within about an inch of running up the back of me on the Monaro Hwy this morning.

To be fair, I’ve had far more close calls with young drivers doing anything but driving (texting, talking, preening, fiddling with the stereo, etc).

Although the elderly don’t always look or give way, they do tend to drive very slowly, so with awareness and defensive driving they aren’t hard to avoid.

johnboy 9:34 am 24 May 11

A major issue with this stuff is that older drivers are less likely to get into crashes, not because of good skills or reflexes (and stiff necks with age are a real problem for head checks) but because they’re incredibly cautious.

But when they do get into a collision they’re much more likely to die because of their frailty.

So road safety experts hate the extra fatalities blowing out their misapplied KPIs.

But really they’re not generating much extra danger out there on average.

JC 9:30 am 24 May 11

ScienceRules said :

When I become Leige Lord of Everything (TM), I shall decree that your driving licence is whisked away as a 75th birthday pressie. Or maybe 70, depending on my mood at the time…

Age per se should not be the defining factor. I work with a guy who is 75 and would give a 20 year old a run for their money when it comes to awareness and reflexes. Maybe an actual test after a certain age would be a better solution.

ScienceRules 8:21 am 24 May 11

Totally true, WildTurkey. For all their lack of experience, at least the young ones have eyesight, health and reflexes in their favour. The oldies on the other hand have decades of deteriorating senses, increased confusion and are usually on a cocktail of meds.

Unfortunately they also have effective lobby groups and financial power so the situation is unlikely to change anytime soon. Being signed off by their GP is essentially meaningless since the doc doesn’t want to be responsible for restricting their travel options and the social isolation that often goes with it.

There are few things more terrifying than “my Gran still drives herself around and she’s 87. Isn’t that amazing?” No, it’s irresponsible and dangerous.

When I become Leige Lord of Everything (TM), I shall decree that your driving licence is whisked away as a 75th birthday pressie. Or maybe 70, depending on my mood at the time…

Jono 8:17 am 24 May 11

wildturkeycanoe said :

… at the bequest of his own family ….

Bequest? They were dead??

wildturkeycanoe said :

Some people don’t realize how bad they are behind the wheel…

From your admissions about your own driving on previous threads, this appears to apply to you far more than it applies to the elderly.

wildturkeycanoe 6:19 am 24 May 11

ScienceRules said :

Maybe the next generation of speed cameras will be able to do a cholesterol check, cardiac monitoring and blood glucose levels!

(P.S. be gentle with me – this is my first post!)

100% agree. It’s not just drugs, alcohol and fatigue that are dangerous on our roads. Impairment of driving skills can come from slow reaction times due to the person being way too old. Some of the elderly drivers I’ve seen around the place are more dangerous than learners and drunk drivers, but I bet if they ever get pulled over for doing 30km/h below the speed limit, the” but I’ve been driving for 40 years without a ticket” defense will come into play. No, this is not a blanket statement for all the over 65s out there, in know individual circumstances are different. My own grandfather of 90+ had his license taken away at the bequest of his own family for the community’s safety and our own peace of mind. Some people don’t realize how bad they are behind the wheel and the traffic authorities rely on doctor’s advice on renewing licenses for the elderly. Do the doctors actually get in the car with these persons? Do they test how fast they can react to a red light, or how close to the speed limit they can drive? No. It’s one thing to be healthy enough physically, but another to be mentally fit.

ScienceRules 10:14 pm 23 May 11

Maybe the next generation of speed cameras will be able to do a cholesterol check, cardiac monitoring and blood glucose levels!

(P.S. be gentle with me – this is my first post!)

Mr Gillespie 9:36 pm 23 May 11

Another less round of ammunition in defence of speed cameras.

The Frots 9:00 pm 23 May 11

bd84 said :

The road toll from medical conditions is competing well with the general accident kind. Makes you wonder whether there’s a speed camera for that or whether the Government might need to review the rules for drivers licencing for people with medical conditions.

Good point. Fits with one of the other threads on this same thing. Better monitoring of elderly drivers and people with these conditions is important. Costly – but important.

bd84 8:06 pm 23 May 11

The road toll from medical conditions is competing well with the general accident kind. Makes you wonder whether there’s a speed camera for that or whether the Government might need to review the rules for drivers licencing for people with medical conditions.

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