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Runway lights out

By johnboy - 9 November 2006 33

The ABC reports that the runway expansion at the Canberra Airport hasn’t had the desired effect with a cargo 747 once again buggering the lights on take-off.

That was worth the foulups all through winter wasn’t it?

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ant 9:33 pm 13 Nov 06

There was a plane come in last night at 1.15 am. clearly heading in to the airport.

JC 2:04 pm 12 Nov 06

Actually the 747 wasn’t a cargo it was a Saudi VIP aircraft. Canberra’s runway is wide enough and long enough to take 747’s without doing any damage, it was widend recently for that purpose but as someone else said there are works in progess and the wash from the outboard engines is what did the damage. They were expecting crap to be brought up onto the runway (as was the case years ago when 747’s came in) as they had the sweepers on standby.

bonfire 5:20 pm 11 Nov 06

it wasnt just that the lights were trashed, it was all the crap off the edge of the runway that blew into the air. flights were delayed by 45 minutes while the dust cloud settled.

ant 5:20 pm 11 Nov 06

Yep. When a man buys an airport, and says outright that the biggest attraction for him was the lack of a curfew, night flights are guaranteed.

He wants to service the region, and with the ability to bring in night flights, freight planes from Asia are a dead cert.

wombat74 4:44 pm 11 Nov 06

Vic, To answer your question the lights in question are the ones that run down either side of the runway. They are white in colour and sit above the ground around 15cm high. Jetblast from the engines has most likely blown them around hence the debris on the runway. From the reports I have been reading only a few lights were smashed and these were temporary lights in place until runway works are complete (works are not yet finished). Once they are permanently fixed to the ground it won’t be a problem.

The Russian freighter took off from the other end of the runway. The runway lights on that end of the runway are permanently fixed to the ground hence why it didn’t cause a problem.

I’m also very curious to know the last time the runway lights got damage because the last one I can remember was about 15 years ago when a Qantas 747 made a emergency landing on a then narrower runway.

seepi 11:06 am 11 Nov 06

Snow openly says he wants to become massive freight hub, with the Canberra advantage being that there is no curfew, so he could accept freight planes all through the night. (Which Sydney can’t).

el 12:47 am 11 Nov 06

I can’t really see it becoming a massive freight airport and replacing Sydney, so I wouldn’t be too concerned Seepi. Even the ‘Express’ (air) carriers just use overnight road freight direct from Mascot, have done for years, and it works. Why would they pay more for the privilege of bringing in such tiny amounts direct to Canberra? (believe me, there ain’t that much coming in – all up would usually fit onto one truck daily, excluding unusual shipments and extra extra long weekends like Easter.) Ditto for surrounding outer areas, not worth the expense for the miniscule (SFA) amount of business.

Then again, Snow has proved himself a fool with the Bland Depot debacle, so it wouldn’t surprise me if he tried…

Vic Bitterman 11:47 pm 10 Nov 06

Your reply johnboy, although well meaning, explains nothing.

To my feeble mind at least.

Are these lights flush mounted? Sitting proud of the surface? Did they get squashed by a wheel? Are they green? Red? White? What are they supposed to illuminate?

So many questions, so little time!

johnboy 11:01 pm 09 Nov 06

it’s debris from the engine wash, you need a particularly wide runway to avoid it.

Vic Bitterman 10:59 pm 09 Nov 06

So does anyone know what these runway ‘lights’ look like, and why a 747 can clobber them??????

johnboy 10:32 pm 09 Nov 06

less goods coming down the hume highway, more efficient movement of goods in general if it works.

seepi 10:17 pm 09 Nov 06

How will it bring less traffic?
Won’t we just get more trucks, as they cart all this frieght around NSW from the Canberra Airport hub Snow envisages replacing Sydney airport for freight.

ant 8:56 pm 09 Nov 06

Nope, more noise and more traffic. Look at what Snow has done so far, and there’s more and bigger and better to come.

A crap “factory outlet” centre (factory outlets my arse), gridlocked traffic every morning, and the Brindabella people get to do it all again in the afternoon too. Civic-style parking charges to park in an empty paddock. and on and on.

One thing with planes landing on that runway, they still drift for ages above it before they put their wheels down (and the epuff of smoke goes up). I wonder why they do that?

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