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Scott Alexander McDougall to plead not guilty to Downer Double murder

By johnboy - 3 October 2008 101

The ABC reports that one Scott Alexander McDougall from Queanbeyan will plead not guilty to murdering Struan Thomas Bolas and Julie Veronica Franko, also known as Julie Tattersall in what has become known as the Downer murders.

These are not to be confused with the Charnwood murder, or the Kingston murder.

    Today in the ACT Magistrates Court, McDougall’s lawyer indicated the 34-year-old would plead not guilty to the two murder charges and one count of arson.

    The court heard there are about 600 exhibits in the case with 300 requiring forensic analysis.

Best of luck to the jurors.

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Scott Alexander McDougall to plead not guilty to Downer Double murder
Granny 10:45 pm 03 Oct 08

Yes, of course it is sad.

I had a boyfriend who had been warped by too many drugs and various circumstances in his life, and who became mentally ill. His father was an alcoholic who died in very tragic circumstances. Sometimes love just isn’t enough, and innocent people end up being hurt. I loved him with everything and it wasn’t enough.

I am not sorry that I do not know Scott, although I am sorry for everybody concerned that this is a sad story with such a sad ending. I don’t need any more sad endings in my life, I’m afraid.

All that is left now is to salvage whatever good can come out of it, and that is unlikely to ever outweigh the harm done.

BusyButBored 9:27 pm 03 Oct 08

That’s scary. It wouldn’t surprise me. But Granny, this is a guy who loved his mum to bits after his father left her.. changed his name back to hers, then she got killed in a car accident. You obviously have a big heart. Sad case?

sunshine 7:21 pm 03 Oct 08

i heard he recently got out of a queensland jail for similiar acts when on drugs

Hams 4:41 pm 03 Oct 08

Aurelius. It is up to the prosecution to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt, but sentencing is entirely out of their hands. I think one of the major issues people have with the judiciary is when they do convict someone, but then give sentences that seem inadequate.
That is just my take on it anyway. Judge only Supreme Court trials seem to have a very strange interpretation of what a “reasonable doubt” is sometimes though.
The other issue is that it is entirely up to the judiciary to deem something inadmissible. Their are some forms of evidence that the ACT Courts won’t accept, even though it is admissible in every other state in Australia.

Aurelius 3:51 pm 03 Oct 08

If the judiciary do not convict a person, a good part of the responsibility for that lies with the prosecution. We have a presumption of innocence, so the onus is on the prosecution to prove beyond reasonable doubt. If they fail, the person gets off.
So when you see someone get off who shouldn’t, you should be asking yourself what laws are inadequate, or whether those seeking a conviction have done their jobs properly.
The weak link in the chain isn’t always the judiciary. If it were, there are things called appeals.

Granny 3:48 pm 03 Oct 08

It does take a certain je ne sais quoi.

Loquaciousness 3:47 pm 03 Oct 08

Deadmandrinking said :

I love it how everyone can predict the future on riot-act.

/me shakes the Magic 8 ball: “It is not promising”.

L

Loquaciousness 3:46 pm 03 Oct 08

123qwe said :

For the grammar kids out there.

pissweek = lacking in substance and took about seven days before it was known to everyone

pissweak = lacking in substance

Thanks for clearing that up 123qwe.

I guess being pissweak would be pisspoor, but being pissweek at least you could pisspour?

L

Deadmandrinking 3:36 pm 03 Oct 08

I love it how everyone can predict the future on riot-act.

sepi 3:08 pm 03 Oct 08

not guilty to murder.

so – unless he is claiming to have nothing to do with it, he must be claiming manslaughter.

123qwe 2:40 pm 03 Oct 08

For the grammar kids out there.

pissweek = lacking in substance and took about seven days before it was known to everyone

pissweak = lacking in substance

123qwe 2:36 pm 03 Oct 08

300 requiring forensic analysis.

By the time AFP get around to completing that work (there is a queue; Charny, Kingston, then Downer) old mate would have served about 5 years in remand awaiting trial. Then by the time he is found not guilty due to some pissweek reasoning, he will probably sue under the Human Rights Act.

Gotta love the ACT.

Beserk Keyboard Warr 2:32 pm 03 Oct 08

Deadmandrinking said :

Well if anyone hasn’t blamed the judiciary, I will.

It’s all their fault. They’re hopeless.

Agreed. If Cameron Smith got two weeks for a grapple-tackle then MacDougall deserves an entire season on the sidelines.

Deadmandrinking 2:06 pm 03 Oct 08

Well if anyone hasn’t blamed the judiciary, I will.

It’s all their fault. They’re hopeless.

Sands 1:22 pm 03 Oct 08

Did anyone go to the case? I thought (was it Donna33?) might have gone along.

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