Sharon Mortlock a no-show in court

Ok, so I was ‘curious’ as to what was more important than for her to stay here in the ACT and attend the court hearing.

The response was this:

ALLEGEDLY the woman did a B&E in Bega and ALLEGEDLY assaulted the home owner (quite badly).

DJ said :

Yes, Police do not determine guilt however keep in mind that to arrest a person there has to be circumstances that action.

Police put people before the Courts or, where the Court has given them the authority, issue a fine/penalty for minor matters where the evidence available to them is such that it is appropriate – you can still take those to Court too. It isn’t rocket surgery.

We obviously have different definitions of ‘innocent’.

Me:

innocent = didn’t do it
guilty = did do it

You

innocent = what court says regardless of truth
guilty = what court says regardless of truth

It is nice when the two line up, n’est-ce pas?

I am not knocking the construct of “Innocent until proven guilty” because I understand that this is crucial to a fair trial, but I think true justice could be better served by common sense.

And I think people are hungry for justice and sick of all this crap. Because so much of what is being served up is actually injustice, and people have a native hatred of injustice. This is why our courts are so despised.

#28 Jim Jones

ROFL

johnboy said :

Innocent until proven guilty.

That rule doesn’t apply to the internet.

On the internet, anyone even suspected of committing the smallest misdemeanor is assumed to be a child-raping holocaust-denying dole-bludging junkie living in the lap of luxury on MY TAX DOLLARS.

The CT has more on this in todays (online at least)… Seems an arrest warrant has been drawn up but will not be executed unless she fails to appear next time. Still no mention of what she was in Bega court for yesterday but I’m trying to find out.

I think she’s going to have some lifestyle changes made for her whether she want’s them or not…lol 😉

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/victim-carried-120m-on-car-bonnet/1354306.aspx

I reckon, if you find yourself having scheduling conflicts between court appearances where you’re the defendant – it’s time to reevaluate your lifestyle.

Granny said :

So if I tell a policeman that I drove my car into the concrete or up onto a fence, does that mean I didn’t do it until a court finds it to be so? Am I innocent? What if an incident never goes to court?

Yes, Police do not determine guilt however keep in mind that to arrest a person there has to be circumstances that action.

Police put people before the Courts or, where the Court has given them the authority, issue a fine/penalty for minor matters where the evidence available to them is such that it is appropriate – you can still take those to Court too. It isn’t rocket surgery.

The ACT “Justice” system is like a toothless tiger.

bigfeet is 100% right.

So if I tell a policeman that I drove my car into the concrete or up onto a fence, does that mean I didn’t do it until a court finds it to be so? Am I innocent? What if an incident never goes to court?

Innocent until proven guilty.

If she did wrong?

If?

How iffy can it be?
Sheesh!!

Is anyone seriously arguing about whether she was the driver of the car known to hit and kill the dead guy?

Bleeding heart? – rubbish. If she did wrong then she should face the penalty, no argument from me there.

As for the conflicting court appearances, ONCE AGAIN, who knows the reasons? the Magistrates do and they are not sufficiently troubled as to order a warrant.

Your last sentence makes no sense whatsoever

I don’t have any idea what she was in Bega for; I was asking a question. You seem to have a bleeding heart for her so I thought you might know.
And my last comment was along the same line as Bigfeet. I was giving her the benefit of the doubt with the parking ticket thing. You’d have to be a right spazz to have conflicting break and enter/hit & run charges going at the same time, eh?
Anyway, I should hope this will all work in her favour.
Commiting a second crime will probably give her a nice tidy alibi for the first.

***What could be a more pressing issue than a fatal hit & run, Spam Box?***

Having already failed to appear previously on whatever charge the Bega case relates too for one (a guess). That, for her would of course be more important the failing to appear (for the first time) on the ACT charge.

Bigfeet… it’s a fallacy that people who disobey ACT court orders are not remanded to BRC, they are, daily.

Footloose, I doubt you have any idea what she was appearing in Bega for, I don’t. Parking ticket? maybe but I doubt it, (I will try and find out in the morning if you like)

roflmao… A saint? lol… yes, I think we can rule out any intervention by the Vatican this week at least 😉

I don’t know, I don’t have all the facts, neither do you. The Magistrate does(to some degree at least) and whilst letting her know that it isn’t going to be allowed to happen again, he wasn’t sufficiently worried to order a warrant. I’m sorry for you if this has hit your life on a personal level (truly) but I doesn’t change the facts.

For now, she’s innocent, for now, she’s not wanted in any state (territory) and for now, the powers that be are content with the way justice is moving.

Perhaps when one has a dance card as full as Ms Mortlocks’, one might like to prioritise in order of sentence.
If that is this case, what does it say about our justice system that someone might choose attend a court hearing for a parking ticket in NSW in preference to a manslaughter(?) hearing in the ACT??

She made a judgement call: (possibly using judgement for the first time in her life)

Disobey a NSW court, where you may get sent to gaol for contempt.

or

Disobey an ACT court, where you will not get sent to gaol, no matter what you do.

if she is attending court in two states theres a fair bet she aint a saint.

My bad, ‘hit and run’.

Spam, yes we’re all ‘rabid armchair warriors’. If you fail to attend a court date the consequences should be adhered to. It’s not rocket science.

Also, if you’d paid attention to the last thread on this situation you’d know that I know part of the deceased family personally.

What other ‘pressing’ issue would have a better excuse than to attend a murder trial?

Another one?

What could be a more pressing issue than a fatal hit & run, Spam Box?

Rubbish, for whatever reason she didn’t attend today (other matters in Bega perhaps were more pressing) the ACT Magistrate wasn’t concerned enough to issue a warrant. In fact this happens all the time. She may have had very good reasons for not attending today (being in court 200klms away) is actually a reasonable(quite rightly) excuse.

She’s innocent(for now anyway) remember?

BTW, she is NOT wanted in ANY state, let alone two

“it’s not like she didn’t know that they were on the same day and couldn’t have asked for a continuance to attend both dates.”

True and she seems to have addressed both matters in both courts to the satisfaction of the Magistrate’s, although apparently not, rabid armchair warriors at RA

Don’t arrest her if she fails to attend the next court date, arrest her now.

It’s not like she didn’t know that they were on the same day and couldn’t have asked for a continuance to attend both dates.

FFS, a man is dead and the ‘light’ way the courts are dealing with this is BS.

I’m trying to sort out the Bega link.

Today, Graeme Reeves, previously referred to as the Bega Butcher, has had his bail conditions varied to allow him to come to Canberra.

Now we hear that Sharon Mortlock is in Begatoday, thereby avoiding court in Canberra.

Coincidence?

Makes you wonder what Ms Mortlock was charged for in Bega that was more pressing than allegedly hitting and running over her boyfriend.
Weapons of Mass Destruction, perhaps? Has there been much genocide in Bega lately?

jb- easy on the day time TV! Just remember, she really loved Luke (dispite all their issues and leaving him on the side of the road to die etc)

Makes you wonder what Ms Mortlock was charged for in Bega that was more pressing than allegedly hitting and running over her boyfriend.

One of societies finest people I see…

“Wanted in two states”?