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Should Police “Working on the roads” be different to “Roadworkers”??

By marksy 31 October 2011 53

It’s confused me justy recently that working in the construction industry where you are “around machinery” or hazardous areas hi-vis wear is mandatory. However, numerous times now I have seen Police standing in the middle of the road handing out fines in 80 km/hr areas. I called up the Police enquries, because if you didn’t see an officer and hit them or “failed to stop” you would be in more trouble.

After today having a Police Officer (Motorcyclist) carrying out speed checks, stepped out in all black onto the road and flagged me down. I called Workcover ACT and was told “Police are under a different regulation and rulings”. How is this so? My sympathy for Police being hit is starting to wear out because they are “under a different ruling” most of the time by the time you have seen them you are however caught anyways.

I think if you are anybody working/riding in a hazardous or potentially hazardous environment you should wear the same gear and the same rules for all. If you watch when the Prime Minister or opposition go to the mines etc. they wear hi-vis vests etc. they don’t pull the “well i’m the Prime Minister” they just do it. I’d get kicked off a site for not wearing appropriate apparel it costs me a lot to maintain and keep the equipment, we as tax payers have provided the Police with hi-vis wear and yet they can still fly under the radar.

So much for a country that is all about “equals” I understand they have their job to do but as mentioned above by the time you have spotted them they already have caught you speeding, so why is this not enforced and Police start being fined for not wearing the appropriate safety equipment. Next we will see Police motorcyclist not wearing helmets etc. oh hang on they save lives…… then wtf are hi-vis vests etc for? looking smart?!!?!

So my question is do I have any grounds for appeal or next time do I just not see him, the sun was in my eyes it was dangerous, yet all I could get from the Police Info line was that they are an option for Police not mandatory. Well I guess, paying the fine isn’t mandatory for me it’s advisable, just like next time I hear a Police Officer was hit by a car I will ask myself if every other state has enforced hi vis wear and ACT hasn’t there will be no tears from me….

What’s Your opinion?


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vg 8:57 pm 15 Nov 11

And to the OP, pay the fine you whinger. If you’re looking for someone to blame or direct your angst towards walk into the bathroom, look in the mirror and see a speeding driver.

Or better still, take it to Court, plead not guilty and use this as a defense. Then, when the magistrate tells you they’re not concerned with that but whether you were speeding mayhaps re-think the strategy .

It’s always someone else’s fault in your life, isn’t it

KeenGolfer 7:48 pm 15 Nov 11

Phwoa said :

I’ve heard stories of policemen pulling over OH&S regulators and then having a pow-wow of swapping fines.
The 2 that I’ve heard, OH&S won both by a long shot.

LOL. What a crock. Urban legend.

vg 6:53 pm 15 Nov 11

Phwoa said :

I’ve heard stories of policemen pulling over OH&S regulators and then having a pow-wow of swapping fines.
The 2 that I’ve heard, OH&S won both by a long shot.

Absolute urban myths, but if it helps you sleep…..

Phwoa 5:55 pm 15 Nov 11

I’ve heard stories of policemen pulling over OH&S regulators and then having a pow-wow of swapping fines.
The 2 that I’ve heard, OH&S won both by a long shot.

Felix the Cat 2:19 pm 04 Nov 11

p1 said :

Can I add my question about why cops on bikes don’t have to wear PPE to this rant?

I often see motorbike cops wearing just a short sleeve shirt while riding in summer and thought the same thing. I guess the answer is the same as the hi-vis vest thing – it’s not required by law.

Years ago I used to ride a motorbike and ALWAYS used to wear a thick heavy motorbike jacket while riding, even in the middle of summer except for this one time I thought I wouldn’t need one as I was just popping down to the local shop 1 km away to buy a carton of milk. Less than halfway into my journey a car pulled out from a side street without looking and nearly hit me. Big brown trouser moment, I swore blind from then on I would never ride a motorbike without a jacket.

AAMC 12:50 pm 04 Nov 11

Gungahlin Al said :

AAMC said :

krats said :

On Your Planet You Certainly Have Grounds For Appeal…But Here On Earth You Do Not!

your correct, he would only have had grounds for appeal if he ran him down.

On the other hand, there are NO appeal rights for the inappropriate use of “your”. You are duly sentenced to the self-designated label of “bogan”.

Dam grammar police, fair enough I’m off to buy a white commodore.

Special G 10:51 pm 03 Nov 11

As usual Dvaey you missed the point. The OP is having a whinge because he got a ticket. Suck it up and take some responisibilty.

Ozi 10:12 am 03 Nov 11

… as a side note, all bike cop jackets have built in reflective material. The wet-weather jacket is fluoro yellow with blue and white scotchbrite reflective markings, and the day jacket is black with the same reflective blue and black strips.

The only time they are not in reflective material of some sort is when they are wearing just their plain light blue short sleeved tops, and if the OP is correct and the cop was “all in black” then I imagine it was the black jacket with the built in reflective material.

Of course, mentioning this would have undermined the OP’s “whinge-ability” and thus made a much less interesting thread. The truth so often ruins a good story.

Gungahlin Al 9:08 am 03 Nov 11

AAMC said :

krats said :

On Your Planet You Certainly Have Grounds For Appeal…But Here On Earth You Do Not!

your correct, he would only have had grounds for appeal if he ran him down.

On the other hand, there are NO appeal rights for the inappropriate use of “your”. You are duly sentenced to the self-designated label of “bogan”.

dvaey 8:32 am 03 Nov 11

Special G said :

Most of the time when Police stop a car they have a marked Police vehicle with big flashy lights blocking the road and making a safe zone for them.

As mentioned by the OP, the police officer was a bike cop, hence no big shiny marked car to sit in the middle of the road. Plus, chances are the officer was still wearing his bike leathers, which are dark blue in colour. Ive had a situation similar once before, while travelling down the parkway, I spotted someone in the distance run into the road, I changed lane to avoid them and they darted into my lane. At first I thought it was some idiot playing chicken (who runs out into 3 lanes of 80km/hr traffic at night, wearing black clothes anyway?), and the traffic was nearly on top of him before we realised it was a cop performing a traffic stop.

Special G said :

If they are hanging around on the road for an dextended time they wear high vis like any other person working on the roads.

If you go onto a construction site, even if its not for an ‘extended period’, you must have all safety gear. Would that excuse work if you tried to use it for not wearing a seatbelt in a carpark? “Sorry officer, I wasnt driving for an extended time”.

Special G said :

They have guidelines governing when they should be wearing high vis. If you feel they have breached those guidelines then make a complaint.

Seriously. I have done this several times before and the complaints process is quite proficient.

Special G 8:20 am 03 Nov 11

Most of the time when Police stop a car they have a marked Police vehicle with big flashy lights blocking the road and making a safe zone for them. If they are hanging around on the road for an dextended time they wear high vis like any other person working on the roads.

They have guidelines governing when they should be wearing high vis. If you feel they have breached those guidelines then make a complaint.

Will a complaint or whinge get you off your ticket – no.

The workcover guy story – I call Bullsh*t. Urban legends/myths are a good story.

AAMC 9:22 am 02 Nov 11

krats said :

On Your Planet You Certainly Have Grounds For Appeal…But Here On Earth You Do Not!

your correct, he would only have had grounds for appeal if he ran him down.

krats 7:20 am 02 Nov 11

On Your Planet You Certainly Have Grounds For Appeal…But Here On Earth You Do Not!

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