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Should Police “Working on the roads” be different to “Roadworkers”??

By marksy - 31 October 2011 53

It’s confused me justy recently that working in the construction industry where you are “around machinery” or hazardous areas hi-vis wear is mandatory. However, numerous times now I have seen Police standing in the middle of the road handing out fines in 80 km/hr areas. I called up the Police enquries, because if you didn’t see an officer and hit them or “failed to stop” you would be in more trouble.

After today having a Police Officer (Motorcyclist) carrying out speed checks, stepped out in all black onto the road and flagged me down. I called Workcover ACT and was told “Police are under a different regulation and rulings”. How is this so? My sympathy for Police being hit is starting to wear out because they are “under a different ruling” most of the time by the time you have seen them you are however caught anyways.

I think if you are anybody working/riding in a hazardous or potentially hazardous environment you should wear the same gear and the same rules for all. If you watch when the Prime Minister or opposition go to the mines etc. they wear hi-vis vests etc. they don’t pull the “well i’m the Prime Minister” they just do it. I’d get kicked off a site for not wearing appropriate apparel it costs me a lot to maintain and keep the equipment, we as tax payers have provided the Police with hi-vis wear and yet they can still fly under the radar.

So much for a country that is all about “equals” I understand they have their job to do but as mentioned above by the time you have spotted them they already have caught you speeding, so why is this not enforced and Police start being fined for not wearing the appropriate safety equipment. Next we will see Police motorcyclist not wearing helmets etc. oh hang on they save lives…… then wtf are hi-vis vests etc for? looking smart?!!?!

So my question is do I have any grounds for appeal or next time do I just not see him, the sun was in my eyes it was dangerous, yet all I could get from the Police Info line was that they are an option for Police not mandatory. Well I guess, paying the fine isn’t mandatory for me it’s advisable, just like next time I hear a Police Officer was hit by a car I will ask myself if every other state has enforced hi vis wear and ACT hasn’t there will be no tears from me….

What’s Your opinion?


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53 Responses to
Should Police “Working on the roads” be different to “Roadworkers”??
krats 8:28 pm 31 Oct 11

As Far As I Know “Road Workers” Don’t Have Gun’s.With The Exception Of Ivan

TP 3000 7:56 pm 31 Oct 11

I’ve seen a Police Officer doing this on the last few hours of the GDE 60k speed limit. I drove up the GDE at 5am (ish) & all I saw was his red flashing stick sitting on his bike seat as I went past.

But while it would be nice for the Police to wear highvisclothing. But they are very well hidden in a high vis jacket when car headlights show him up before the Police radar picks up any car.

Also adding to the urban legend, I have been told it was a guy who was inspecting Woolworth’s Woden the next day & told them about his experience on Ginninderra Drive. It was at the bottom of the hill near Lyneham. The same OH&S Inspector also sat further down the road & called the Winchester Centre warning them about what happened. A few minutes later he saw the 2 Police Officers chuck their high vis vests on.

Ozi 7:33 pm 31 Oct 11

matt31221 said :

I love those MAD black german storm trooper style trench coats they wear in the rain, they look so friggin’ mean. Especially with the leather hats. I’d love to find out where they buy them and buy an unmarked one. The coppers have some great kit.

Ummm… not so much. They have bright flouro rain coats, but they just look like enormous numpties when they wear them. Don’t know which fervent day dream made you think cops have circa 1935 black trench coats!

Jethro 7:29 pm 31 Oct 11

Henry82 said :

Instead you’ve got canberra drivers, who drive frangipani excels through give way/stop signs without looking.

Saw a car the other day with a southern cross made out of frangipanis.

Pure awesome.

matt31221 7:23 pm 31 Oct 11

Most of the AFP ACT Policing DO wear High-Viz on the road I thought (most of the time anyways)? They certainly have High-Viz vests – they store it in a briefcase in their patrol car.

I love those MAD black german storm trooper style trench coats they wear in the rain, they look so friggin’ mean. Especially with the leather hats. I’d love to find out where they buy them and buy an unmarked one. The coppers have some great kit.

cranky 6:50 pm 31 Oct 11

An urban legend that did the rounds.

Cop pings a motorist for speeding , pulls him over, and issues a ticket.

Motorist is a government OH&S inspector. Issues the cop with a ticket for not using high vis gear.

Ah, justice.

Henry82 6:45 pm 31 Oct 11

Grail said :

Hi-vis clothing on construction sites is necessary due to the confusing environments: piles of dirt, piles of construction materials, bare concrete, covered concrete, shiny metal, rusted metal

Instead you’ve got canberra drivers, who drive frangipani excels through give way/stop signs without looking. Eat, do make-up or text on the phone while driving. Vans stopping regularly along streets, cyclists cutting through traffic etc

Diggety 6:17 pm 31 Oct 11

A few years ago, I very nearly hit a police officer who ran out in front of me (I was doing the speed limit ~80km/h, I would have killed him).

Not only did I not see him until the last second, he actually didn’t see me. He must have been so eager to pull over the motorbike behind me that just failed to notice my car.

I too thought to myself he really should be dressed like a tennis ball, but were you just trying to get out of a fine you cheeky dog?

Grail 6:15 pm 31 Oct 11

Hi-vis clothing on construction sites is necessary due to the confusing environments: piles of dirt, piles of construction materials, bare concrete, covered concrete, shiny metal, rusted metal — it’s a visually noisy environment and when you’re reversing a cement mixer into a work site on your fourth trip today it can get easy to not see people.

A police officer on the side of the road waving you down is not worried about machinery running them over, so there’s no desperate need for them to wear high-vis gear.

Of course, you could go find the advert for that ambulance-chasing lawyer on the RiotACT, he seems to specialise in getting people off on technicalities.

Henry82 5:44 pm 31 Oct 11

The first part of your argument was valid, however the last paragraph was blah blah about avoiding for tickets. Stop for police when you see them, whether or not they’re wearing high vis.

If you think just turning your head slightly like nothing has happened and drive past, it’s not going to work. Firstly, they can see your plates, secondly they usually have a high powered police car to chase you down, and finally – you’ll get a fist full of tickets for failing to stop. They’re not stupid, they can tell. Just like i can tell when i cross at a pedestrian crossing and people don’t want to stop.

Next time you get pulled over (assuming its regular occurrence), say something like “it was difficult seeing you there officer, perhaps you should wear high vis for your own safety”. Otherwise i’d suggest writing your argument to a local member? legislative assembly? someone who can actually change the law. When you do write the letter though, exclude the last paragraph.

Reminds me of the old story that police can’t issue tickets if they’re not wearing a hat.

Mysteryman 5:43 pm 31 Oct 11

You should be paying enough attention to the road and the environment around you that you don’t hit a cop, a workman, a student, a mother, a business-person, a child, or ANY other pedestrian, regardless of what they are wearing.

Wake up to yourself.

Postalgeek 5:41 pm 31 Oct 11

Absolutely. And I think you will have similar grounds for appeal should police (hopefully) decide to shoot you without using ear protection.

BenMac 5:27 pm 31 Oct 11

Shouldn’t you be doing the speed limit anyway, regardless if there’s a police officer checking speed? No wonder construction takes ages in Canberra, nothing but whingers.

Tooks 5:17 pm 31 Oct 11

At least you’ll have an excuse when you knock one over.

buzz819 4:59 pm 31 Oct 11

Wow.. All I heard was.. Whinge whinge whinge… I got a ticket how do I get off?

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