Skippy slaughter to turn-off tourists?

johnboy 3 July 2009 126

The Canberra Times brings word of plans by the National Kangaroo Protection Coalition to organise a boycott of tourism to Canberra in response to recent ‘roo culls.

    “We’ve been talking about it the last couple of days and we think it’s one of the options we’ve got and probably the strongest option we’ve got to get the ACT Government to stop killing these kangaroos,” Mr O’Brien said.

    He said he believed the Canberra culls were based on unproven science and were motivated by an ACT Government ”hatred with kangaroos”.

It seems unlikely to us here in the bunker that endemic kangaroo hatred is driving policy.


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farnarkler farnarkler 6:06 pm 08 Jul 09

or Backgammon or even snakes and ladders.

Pandy Pandy 5:35 pm 08 Jul 09

The Bush Capital moniker is crap. Especailly with draughts

Spideydog Spideydog 5:35 pm 08 Jul 09

Ozhair said :

Wonderful how their care factor reduced in proportion to the collapse of their “facts”

Stole the words from my mouth.

Downunder Downunder 5:28 pm 08 Jul 09

I used to be a Canberra local. I’m now in rural Victoria. Why is that important to you?

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 5:15 pm 08 Jul 09

No-one’s talking about eradicating them completely, just trimming the numbers back to manageable. If cars, shooter, bushfires and barbed wire fences really killed as many as you say, we wouldn’t need to take this step now would we…?

Downunder – are you a Canberra local, or from further afield?

Downunder Downunder 4:15 pm 08 Jul 09

Or busy perhaps? I’ve just driven 200k to look for a roo crippled by a driver and left to die. Time I could have spent looking after my 12 orphaned EG joeys. I am told that ACT shelters are forbidden to raise them – all orphaned babies must be put down. I don’t think your assessment of a reducing carefactor is appropriate – we do this sort of stuff because we do care. And we pay for it all too.
I believe that Majura took out 6000, Belconnen 400 and the present cull at Callum Brae and other Nature Reserves is expected to about 550. This of course is why the ACT Govt is accused of taking the easy option of slaughter. The writer at: http://candobetter.org/node/1274 blames the Earless Dragon for being a convenient excuse and casts doubts on the statistics used to justify these ‘culls’. It is worth reading and you can vent your rage there too!
Doesn’t anyone here see the irony and hypocrisy that the one city that was deliberately planned to be a showpiece, the epitome of excellence, a paradigm of perfection, the true Bush Capital, Australian Federation on show etc etc is now so well known for these regular slaughters? Would it be terribly un-Austraian if the ACT Govt tried to live with their wildlife instead?

I’ll now go back to the brick-wall-head-bashing for some light relief.

Ozhair Ozhair 12:13 pm 08 Jul 09

FC said :

Or maybe they just took my advice or realised that their carefacter in conversing with you mob is zero.

Wonderful how their care factor reduced in proportion to the collapse of their “facts”

chewy14 chewy14 10:48 am 08 Jul 09

But but but,

its just wrong OK.

FC FC 10:42 am 08 Jul 09

Or maybe they just took my advice or realised that their carefacter in conversing with you mob is zero.

Ozhair Ozhair 10:38 am 08 Jul 09

Aaaaand unsurprisingly, as soon as asked for honest, verifiable facts from the anti-cull camp, we hear nothing but the sound of crickets….

Ozhair Ozhair 4:19 pm 07 Jul 09

Okay, back to the facts, then.

The stopkangarookilling.org website makes fairly outrageous claims of kangaroo numbers “crashing” by more than 75% all over the country.

Looking at one of their major source documentts which I’ve mentioned before, the 2008 Kangaroo Cull Quota Report, it’s easy to find the tables they seem to have taken these numbers from.

These tables show a massive decline in roo numbers between 2002-2003. However, the tables also indicate that 2003 was the year a different source for the numbers started being used.

Tellingly, between 1992-1993, when the previous source was first used, we see a massive increase in estimated roo numbers. This would strongly suggest that the increase and decline are due to a change in the methodology of data collection, unless you’re willing to accept a massive coincidence of these changes just happening to occur at the same time.

These changeovers are clearly marked on the tables, so it would seem that the keepers of the stopkangarookilling website are playing fast and loose with the numbers, willing to be not entirely honest in thway they present their “facts” in order to shore up their ideals.

FC FC 3:31 pm 07 Jul 09

sorry johnboy. I had posted it before your message came up :0

FC FC 3:31 pm 07 Jul 09

Spideydog.
I guess we have both kind of read each others posts wrong.
sorry for jumping the gun..

Andy pandy – I’ll hop right to it 😉

I agree that a lot of debate here is because we all hold different views, but I just think there is some things that are just not worth getting into. Especially for me I have found I just have to weigh up how much I care about
a) the next hour/2hours/day of my life,
b)whether I want to spend that time entering into discussion with people who are likely going to say things that I have usually heard before and are likely going to piss me off.
c)whether I care enough about using my time and mental energy to ‘get into it’ with a bunch of strangers on the internet with the hope of some seeing reason in my opinion.

Some things are worth it, because obviously both parties can enlighten the other side about things that they weren’t previously aware of/different ways of looking at it. A lot of the time its not worth it though.

johnboy johnboy 3:20 pm 07 Jul 09

Back on topic people.

chewy14 chewy14 3:18 pm 07 Jul 09

sirocco said :

Spideydog said :

Besides, if we didn’t debate because people have fundamentally different values, Riotact would cease to exist.

I dunno about that…. I think we debate here cos we can’t help ourselves 🙂

Nothing better than a good old Riotact mass debate.

Spideydog Spideydog 3:15 pm 07 Jul 09

That too …lol

sirocco sirocco 3:14 pm 07 Jul 09

Spideydog said :

Besides, if we didn’t debate because people have fundamentally different values, Riotact would cease to exist.

I dunno about that…. I think we debate here cos we can’t help ourselves 🙂

andy pandy andy pandy 3:09 pm 07 Jul 09

When you find they ironing in your comments might I suggest some starch for that clean crisp appearance

Spideydog Spideydog 3:08 pm 07 Jul 09

FC said :

“They”
I have never stated, nor been asked for any facts..Or do you mean Downunder. Where’s the ironing in my comment.
My comment is due to the fact that obviously a lot of you, and downunder – have fundamentally different values- and therefore nothing either party is really going to say is going to convince the other party. Therefore I would see it as a waste of time.

My useage of “They” was in relation to Downunder & Menkit, not you FC, I though it was obvious, but if it gave you the wrong impression, it was not intended that way.

FC said :

I wouldn’t bother trying to debate with the people on here though. You would likely achieve more banging you head up against a brick wall

The way that is written, gave me the impression that “it is not worth debating with the people on here, as they won’t listen to you” From the replies I had seen, this was not the case.

Besides, if we didn’t debate because people have fundamentally different values, Riotact would cease to exist.

Clown Killer Clown Killer 3:06 pm 07 Jul 09

It’s not that our views are fundamentally diferenct FC. It’s more a case of we’re right and he’s a nutter.

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