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South Tralee goes ahead

By johnboy 6 November 2012 127

The Village Building Company is celebrating victory in their long march to build a ghetto under the flight path of Canberra Airport across the border in NSW, which in turn is likely to shift the flight paths over Canberra.

“Home ownership is everyone’s dream. Queanbeyan has been starved of well-located affordable housing for seven years. This decision means that young families looking to buy their first home near Jerrabomberra can now get into the housing market. The rezoning of Tralee will restore jobs, growth and opportunity to the families and businesses of Jerrabomberra and Queanbeyan” Mr Winnel said.

South Tralee has been rezoned by the NSW Minister for Planning as the first stage of Queanbeyan City Council’s plan to develop houses and community facilities in the South Jerrabomberra region.

“The rezoning has only been achieved through the commitment and tenacity of the Member for Monaro John Barilaro. The project has also achieved strong support from Queanbeyan Council’s Mayor Tim Overall, all nine other Councillors, the Jerrabomberra Residents Association, the Queanbeyan Business Council and sporting clubs and community groups throughout Queanbeyan.

They’ve also produced a lovely fact sheet.

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Tetranitrate 2:28 pm 11 Nov 12

HenryBG said :

Ignore the Greens, they’re finished. Sheikh is a nobody who won’t get any support.

If they start flying planes over Canberra, Humphries will be under real pressure. The two electorates not so much unless we have a Labor government at the time, (so, thinking ahead to about 2030 here) in which case it becomes a possibility.

Humphries won’t be the Senator by 2030 of coruse, anyway:
Under real pressure from who? Labor? If green support seriously erodes(which it probably will a bit) enough of it will splinter off toward the various minor parties that the libs could probably survive with 0.9 or 0.8 quotas before Labor really gets in with a shot of taking both seats. I mean to get both seats they effectively need to get just over two thirds of the vote after preferences – Canberra may well be a labor town, but it’s not that much of a labor town -only a small fraction of lower house seats in the entire country have margins that lopsided (Fraser is sorta close, but not quite, Canberra is nowhere near), and the senate is more likely to have votes going elsewhere well before they get to the major parties, allowing for leakage and preference deals regarding the tickets for above the line voting. It’s just not possible with Canberra’s demographics – there are too many other issues attracting peoples votes.

HenryBG 12:59 pm 11 Nov 12

Tetranitrate said :

HenryBG said :

MrPC said :

HenryBG said :

And I think you’ll find that 400,000 pissed off voters have far more pull than the 20,000 residents of scruff-ville.

Canberra is a safe seat.
Fraser is a safe seat.
Eden Monaro is a marginal seat.

Figure out which lot will get crapped on first when it comes to federal politics.

Nevermind Canberra and Fraser, aircraft noise is more than enough to put Humphries’ seat in danger.

The last time Canberra elected a Liberal (Brendan Smyth), it was a by-election in the final years of the Keating government, triggered by the resignation of the sitting member over the Sports Rorts affair. Canberra subsequently elected Bob McMullan at the 1996 election when Labor was losing seats across the country. Fraser has never elected a non-labor member in its history.
A liberal federal government truly doesn’t give the slightest damn about what Canberrans think and a labor government can safely take them for granted.

The senate is really not in play either, the quota is only 33% and there’s enough leakage from Labor that even when the Libs have fallen under quota they’ve still ended up ahead. What’s more, I’d have imagined Canberrans would have been a lot more upset with the feds from 1996-1998, for obvious reasons than they could ever be over aircraft noise.
In 2007, with the Howard government on the nose had a the Greens, Labor, Getup and what was left of the democrats pouring resources into the ACT, the libs still handily managed a quota – and that was with Kerrie Tucker running for the Greens.
Who are they going to run now? Simon Sheikh? who’s lived in Canberra for mere months, knows nothing about the city and sees it as little more than a potential route into federal politics?

Ignore the Greens, they’re finished. Sheikh is a nobody who won’t get any support.

If they start flying planes over Canberra, Humphries will be under real pressure. The two electorates not so much unless we have a Labor government at the time, (so, thinking ahead to about 2030 here) in which case it becomes a possibility.

Tetranitrate 11:11 am 11 Nov 12

HenryBG said :

MrPC said :

HenryBG said :

And I think you’ll find that 400,000 pissed off voters have far more pull than the 20,000 residents of scruff-ville.

Canberra is a safe seat.
Fraser is a safe seat.
Eden Monaro is a marginal seat.

Figure out which lot will get crapped on first when it comes to federal politics.

Nevermind Canberra and Fraser, aircraft noise is more than enough to put Humphries’ seat in danger.

The last time Canberra elected a Liberal (Brendan Smyth), it was a by-election in the final years of the Keating government, triggered by the resignation of the sitting member over the Sports Rorts affair. Canberra subsequently elected Bob McMullan at the 1996 election when Labor was losing seats across the country. Fraser has never elected a non-labor member in its history.
A liberal federal government truly doesn’t give the slightest damn about what Canberrans think and a labor government can safely take them for granted.

The senate is really not in play either, the quota is only 33% and there’s enough leakage from Labor that even when the Libs have fallen under quota they’ve still ended up ahead. What’s more, I’d have imagined Canberrans would have been a lot more upset with the feds from 1996-1998, for obvious reasons than they could ever be over aircraft noise.
In 2007, with the Howard government on the nose had a the Greens, Labor, Getup and what was left of the democrats pouring resources into the ACT, the libs still handily managed a quota – and that was with Kerrie Tucker running for the Greens.
Who are they going to run now? Simon Sheikh? who’s lived in Canberra for mere months, knows nothing about the city and sees it as little more than a potential route into federal politics?

Postalgeek 10:19 am 11 Nov 12

HenryBG said :

MrPC said :

HenryBG said :

And I think you’ll find that 400,000 pissed off voters have far more pull than the 20,000 residents of scruff-ville.

Canberra is a safe seat.
Fraser is a safe seat.
Eden Monaro is a marginal seat.

Figure out which lot will get crapped on first when it comes to federal politics.

Nevermind Canberra and Fraser, aircraft noise is more than enough to put Humphries’ seat in danger.

Is this your ‘gut’ feeling as a pundit?

HenryBG 8:55 am 11 Nov 12

MrPC said :

HenryBG said :

And I think you’ll find that 400,000 pissed off voters have far more pull than the 20,000 residents of scruff-ville.

Canberra is a safe seat.
Fraser is a safe seat.
Eden Monaro is a marginal seat.

Figure out which lot will get crapped on first when it comes to federal politics.

Nevermind Canberra and Fraser, aircraft noise is more than enough to put Humphries’ seat in danger.

milkman 7:39 am 11 Nov 12

HenryBG said :

milkman said :

HenryBG said :

milkman said :

HenryBG said :

milkman said :

HenryBG said :

milkman said :

You do see the point I’m making, though… right? The ACT hasn’t cared one iota about its neighbour, but expects NSW to consider how their decisions might impact Canberrans…

You’re not making that point very well considering the issue here isn’t about how Tralee might impact Canberrans, but how Canberra might impact Tralee with its aircraft noise.

It is sad though that your scruffy town feels neglected and uncared-for by Canberrans – what would you like us to do to make it better?

The point’s been made. You’re just being deliberately ignorant, as usual.

Yes, the point has been made that some extraordinarily stupid and short-sighted people are planning a residential development under a flight path.

Here’s hoping Terry Snow can get hold of some good loud jets and have them flying in relay very low over Tralee all day every Saturday once the display homes are up.

And let’s hope the Canberra Airport has the balls to develop a specialised procedure for dealing with noise complaints from Tralee: straight in the bin.

Henry, henry, henry… you’ve got it all wrong. That noise will be shared with Canberra, thus reducing any discomfort to future residents to a minimum.

I think you will find that the results of democracy in Canberra will be a unanimous “no” to changing any flight paths to suit people who’ve stupidly chosen to go and live under them.

And I think you’ll find that flight paths are managed by a federally owned organisation who doesn’t care two hoots about ‘democracy in Canberra’.

And I think you’ll find that 400,000 pissed off voters have far more pull than the 20,000 residents of scruff-ville.

Google ‘marginal seat’ henry. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you…

MrPC 12:42 am 11 Nov 12

HenryBG said :

And I think you’ll find that 400,000 pissed off voters have far more pull than the 20,000 residents of scruff-ville.

Canberra is a safe seat.
Fraser is a safe seat.
Eden Monaro is a marginal seat.

Figure out which lot will get crapped on first when it comes to federal politics.

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