Tegan The Vegan Trailer

KillerMoth said :

Tooks said :

NatalieZ said :

If all 120,000,000 acres (490,000 km2) of cropland in the continental United States were used for a vegan diet then approximately 500 million animals would die each year. But if half of the cropland were converted to ruminant pastureland, by contrast, then Davis estimates that only 900,000 animals would die each year (assuming people switched from the 8 billion poultry killed each year to beef, lamb, and dairy products).[80] In this way, Davis concludes, a diet containing some meat would kill fewer animals than an all plant diet.

Your Steven Davis study snippets are misleading. The study only calculates the number of animals killed per acre, rather than consumer. When you adjust his calculations to reflect this, veganism wins. Furthermore, since he only based his “research” on two studies, his conclusions have been criticized as not being an accurate representation of commercial agricultural practices. When more studies are taken into account, vegan wins. AGAIN.

Vegan never “wins” – what a ridiculous statement. If you choose to be vegan, that’s fine, but you “win” nothing. The fact is, millions of animals die every year during the harvesting process. At least us evil meat-eaters actually eat the animals we kill, rather than leave them mangled and rotting on the ground somewhere.

*Hook baited. Casting….NOW!*

Tooks said :

NatalieZ said :

If all 120,000,000 acres (490,000 km2) of cropland in the continental United States were used for a vegan diet then approximately 500 million animals would die each year. But if half of the cropland were converted to ruminant pastureland, by contrast, then Davis estimates that only 900,000 animals would die each year (assuming people switched from the 8 billion poultry killed each year to beef, lamb, and dairy products).[80] In this way, Davis concludes, a diet containing some meat would kill fewer animals than an all plant diet.

Your Steven Davis study snippets are misleading. The study only calculates the number of animals killed per acre, rather than consumer. When you adjust his calculations to reflect this, veganism wins. Furthermore, since he only based his “research” on two studies, his conclusions have been criticized as not being an accurate representation of commercial agricultural practices. When more studies are taken into account, vegan wins. AGAIN.

Tooks said :

….In this way, Davis concludes, a diet containing some meat would kill fewer animals than an all plant diet.

That is an awesome bit of research, love it.

If people are making dietry decisions based on ethics, they should be totally consistent (IMHO). So you really should look at more then the fact that an animal died. There are questions raised like that above, large monocultures are not very good. Cutting down rainforest to produce palm oil also bad.

Many of the vegos and vegans I have met do try hard to source their food from the most ethical source, and I applaud them. But before you try to convince other people of the “rightness” of your philosophy, maybe consider the impact of every single person on the planet going vegan?

I thought this film was about being true to yourself and not giving in to peer pressure – it’s disappointing that so many of the other comments are focusing on the vessel for the message and not the message itself.

I think it looks awesome – can’t wait to see it.

NatalieZ said :

This looks wonderful! The more people know about this healthy and compassionate way of life the better! Veganism is on the rise for very good reason, there are so many benefits, I know I lost weight and have a lot more energy since making the switch, plus I know I’m not taking part in the cruelty and environmental destruction that factory farming is responsible for. I haven’t eaten meat in over 10 years and I’ve never felt better. 🙂

I also eat a healthy diet, which includes meat, seafood, dairy, fruit and veg. I have nothing against vegans or vegetarians, but I have seen some whose diet was pretty appalling and definitely not healthy.

Poorly planned vegetarian diets may be low in vitamin B12, calcium, omega-3 fatty acids, vitamin D, iron, zinc, riboflavin (vitamin B2), and iodine, and poorly planned vegan diets may have particularly low intakes of vitamin B12 and calcium.[89][90] Nonetheless, well-balanced vegetarian and vegan diets can meet all these nutrient requirements and are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including during pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence.

So if you’re going to do it, do it right!

BTW, how is it a “compassionate way of life?”

Based on a study finding that wood mouse populations dropped from 25 per hectare to 5 per hectare after harvest (attributed to migration and mortality) Davis estimates that 10 animals per hectare are killed from crop farming every year. If all 120,000,000 acres (490,000 km2) of cropland in the continental United States were used for a vegan diet then approximately 500 million animals would die each year. But if half of the cropland were converted to ruminant pastureland, by contrast, then Davis estimates that only 900,000 animals would die each year (assuming people switched from the 8 billion poultry killed each year to beef, lamb, and dairy products).[80] In this way, Davis concludes, a diet containing some meat would kill fewer animals than an all plant diet.

Enny said :

All those fruit and vegetables! The horror!! So evil!!

Seriously?

Yeah all those poor battery lettuces – their little roots never get to touch the soil.

Causes are good and all but the self righteous people who defend said causes are just dicks.

More bacon and eggs for me.

All those fruit and vegetables! The horror!! So evil!!

Seriously?

Solidarity said :

schmeah said :

ha! cry me a river meat eaters. It’s a short film sponsored by the government! So what, they’re not throwing money at the beef industry (do we have one in the ACT), but the short encourages people to diversify their diet, which is good news for agriculture industries throughout the region.

Wait, isn’t limiting what you can eat the exact opposite of “diversifying” your diet?

I wonder why there are no vegan bodybuilders or kickboxers….

Ever heard of Mike Tyson? He’s been vegan for over a year now and he’s HUGE! His bicep is bigger than my head, how’s that for weak and scrawny?

Also there are TONS of vegan bodybuilders out there, just Google it. Or if you’re lazy click here: http://veganbodybuilding.com/

This looks wonderful! The more people know about this healthy and compassionate way of life the better! Veganism is on the rise for very good reason, there are so many benefits, I know I lost weight and have a lot more energy since making the switch, plus I know I’m not taking part in the cruelty and environmental destruction that factory farming is responsible for. I haven’t eaten meat in over 10 years and I’ve never felt better. 🙂