The Lama roadshow arrives – Stanhope too busy

Ntp 14 June 2007 35

[First posted 12:38pm 12 June 2007]

At the time of this post the Dalai Lama, Tibetian in exile and spirtual leader of the Budist faith, would be about half way though his speech at the National Press Club, and although many will flock to hear his words it appears the Chief Minister will not be among them either today or later in private. Kevin Rudd has said he will meet with the Dalai Lama after Howard said he would check his diary (I’ve been on the receiving end of that – it’s a no).

Although a great man, I am worried thath the whole Dalai Lama thing is becoming more like a rock tour than about the message. If you doubt me have a look at the tour itinerary on his Australian Tour Webpage.

UPDATED – Wild Bill makes his views on Stanhopes no show here.

FURTHER UPDATED – And what is Christian Kerr of‘s opinion?; “Bad karma. ACT Chief Minister Jon Stanhope is our most infantile leftist leader – Terry Hicks as Father of the Year, anyone? – yet yesterday he declined to meet the Dalai Lama when the holy man of the Himalayas visited Canberra. A spokesthing for the head honcho of a pissant parliament declared he was “too busy”. Perhaps he was following up on his recent trade mission to China.”

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35 Responses to The Lama roadshow arrives – Stanhope too busy
The Rabble The Rabble 12:27 am 17 Jun 07

I thought this was going to be a thread about lamas. It being a local obbsession with lama open days in Cooma, businesses offering picnics with a lama.

If we could mobilise the lama breeders we could have a lot of lamas up on the Hill. Peacefully grazing with only one things in their minds – grazing.

tybreaker tybreaker 9:11 pm 16 Jun 07

Hmmm the Romans setting an example in humility? This is from the same culture that worshipped Caesar as a living god ok?

jemmy jemmy 11:28 am 15 Jun 07

Aargh, I’d kill for an Edit button. I hit Enter too soon.

The important bit, which shows they *really* understood the psychology, is that is was a Slave who did the whispering, someone who wasn’t even good enough to be a citizen.

To their culture’s credit, for the most part the generals valued the service, or at least tolerated it. Some of them got shitty, but it was considered poor form and low to have a go at that slave.

jemmy jemmy 11:22 am 15 Jun 07

Ok, I thought everyone knew it from school, but I guess I thought wrong.

The Romans, despite being quite savage in some parts of their culture, understood psychology pretty well. If a general won an important battle they got a triumphal procession as the conquering hero, like a ticker-tape parade today. However, so they didn’t get too big-headed with their own sense of importance, a slave was put in the chariot with them, and his job was to constantly whisper in the general’s ear, “Remember, you are just a man.” The point being that with all the adulation it would be easy to think you’re something greater than just another Roman citizen. Yes, you’ve won a good battle, but don’t get too full of yourself and start to believe the bullshit.

Maelinar Maelinar 9:40 am 15 Jun 07

Can you repeat that in English ?

jemmy jemmy 7:53 am 15 Jun 07

I think the Dalai Lama is necessary in today’s world, irrespective of his religion. He fills the role of the slave in the chariot whispering to the conquering hero, aka political leaders, “Remember that you are but a man.” Leaders, particularly nowadays with spin ruling politics, need to be reminded of that occasionally, and we are better off when they are.

asp asp 11:55 pm 14 Jun 07

I must say I don’t share the same level of respect that many have for the Dalai Lama. I have no doubt that he is a kind hearted person whose message is a good one for people to take in. But I think he lacks substance. He was interviewed a few years back by Micheal Palin (of Monty Python fame) for his series Himalaya. For an awkward eight minutes, all he did was reply with general quotes he seems to repeat often and kept looking at his minders as if to ask (Am I done yet?).
That said, I would listen to and trust the Dalai Lama’s words over those of George Dubya any day.

Absent Diane Absent Diane 4:45 pm 14 Jun 07

whenever I watched monkey magic when i was a wee fella I needed to eat lettuce. Especially when the horse/man/dragon was in it.

Absent Diane Absent Diane 4:42 pm 14 Jun 07

It is still hypocritical. There is no way you can avoid the hypocrisy. It is religion though and we have to expect that of religion.

Maelinar Maelinar 4:33 pm 14 Jun 07

Oh come on, he flies on his mighty dragon, although it can turn into a talking horse for when he’s travelling with Monkey.

mutley mutley 4:05 pm 14 Jun 07

No problems with him flying to spread the word, or utilising the odd chauffeured Merc in his travels, but I think usage of a Rolls Royce in an area where your “people” are living as refugees in poverty is a touch inappropriate for someone espousing such noble sentiments.

Given the nature of the roads etc up there, surely he could at least make do with a Land Rover or some such?

stan_bowles stan_bowles 3:17 pm 14 Jun 07

Fair enough, but if I was a poor monk I’d be more concerned about the “star” of Half Past Dead and Hard to Kill Steven Segal being made a sacred vessel or “tulku” of Tibetan Buddhism.

There’s an interesting article about the Lama here

The Secretary The Secretary 3:06 pm 14 Jun 07

As a ‘simple monk’ the DL has taken a vow of simplicity, not one of eschewing cars or airplanes or other developments that are part and parcel of the modern world. It is likely that the Mercedes in which he was seen being ferried around in India or the chopper that he flew across Canberra in were provided for by his supporters. The Dalai Lama has a message to get out to the world (ie the situation in Tibet) and I imagine that the majority of Tibetans monks and nuns, both in Tibet and in exile, don’t begrudge the fact that their spiritual leader is in demand around the world and to get to these engagements he will have to utilise planes and cars, luxury or otherwise.

Absent Diane Absent Diane 2:38 pm 14 Jun 07

Well if i was a poor monk trying to do the best I could in tough conditions with little money somewhere in asia or on the subcontinent and then I saw the leader of my belief system flying around in planes getting driven around in fancy cars – I would probably feel a bit jaded because it doesn’t really seem like he is living the monk life.

Limp Jimmy Limp Jimmy 1:41 pm 14 Jun 07

Um… he did fly here in a big shiny jet plane, not? True, they are rather expensive and tend to use quite a bit of fuel. Ah, is that a contradiction? No, I wouldn’t have thought so…

Absent Diane Absent Diane 12:58 pm 14 Jun 07

i agree mutley.. it is pretty symbolic – these guys are supposed to promote living a life without material possesion for the sake of mental health.. and here he is driving around in something very material, whether he owns it or not he is promoting it.

mutley mutley 11:54 am 14 Jun 07

Jenna – Um pretty damn sure it was him considering I could see him through the slightly open window, and all the Tibetans in exile in Dharasalam were lining the streets.

The Secretary – I didn’t ask to see the rego papers for the Rollers, my bad. But I’d say it’s a bit of a stretch for someone to claim they are “but a simple monk” in a situation such as this.

The Secretary The Secretary 10:42 am 14 Jun 07

Mutley: Are you sure that the DL actually owned the gold mercs? I doubt that he does. And even if they were owned by someone else, is there a problem with him being driven around in them? It doesn’t seem like a hypocritical action as I’m not aware of any Buddhist teachings on this matter.

bonfire bonfire 10:04 am 14 Jun 07

i read a funny article on bono lat week.

he was at one of those ‘no child in africa shall live in poverty’ conventions in scotland, and at the podium about to say something of great significance.

he asked for total silence.

he then started slowly clapping his hands, once every few seconds.

after a few claps he said ‘every time i clap my hands, a child somewhere in africa dies’.

at which point a scotsman shouted out:

‘well stop clapping your hands you bastard!’

Mr Evil Mr Evil 9:56 am 14 Jun 07

Stanhope’s only a big man when it suits him.

To be realistic, trade with China benefits Australia (and the ACT) more than worrying about what some silly old Tibetan bastard has got to say anyway.

The Dalai Lama and Bono should be banished to a small island somewhere.

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