25 June 2010

The Road

| thy_dungeonman
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Warramanga Road Road

Over the past year or so the reserve that runs through the middle of Waramanga near where I live has had a road worn across it which now runs pretty much the entire length of the reserve. At first it was from tradesman parking outside 4 Gabi place to do work there, however now anytime a tradesman wants to access a house backing onto the reserves they park in the reserve itself. Also the playground has recently been replaced so quite a few trucks have been driving around that area, as you can see from the pictures there are now signs warning of truck activity.

What I don’t understand is why these trucks can’t simply park in the cul-de-sacs nearby, the one at Gabi Place is only a few meters away (although now there appears to be an ad-hoc driveway worn into the reserve there). There is quite enough room in the cul-de-sacs and they are hardly busy traffic spots anyway. As you can also see the barriers that were meant to prevent vehicle access at the western end have also been destroyed. There is also quite a lot of sand piling up on the pedestrian path, keep in mind that where this road runs used to be completely grass and even in the patchy areas there is still evidence of tyre-tracks.

Of course I have already reported all this on the government’s new website.

You can even see the road from space:

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Here’s a video following the road and I apologize from the nausea-inducing camera-work.

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thy_dungeonman8:40 am 28 Jun 10

Whether rare nature or not it’s meant to be place where pedestrians can walk amongst nature as opposed to walking amongst cars on ever other footpath, and I did not think I had to say this again, but the tradesmen are NOT saving themselves any distance in walking, only driving, but they have to put up with where the roads go as all drivers do. Also there is no class related conflict here, I’m an unemployed student, it’s more a conflict of pedestrian versus lazy motorist.

thy_dungeonman said :

My main problem here isn’t pedestrian safety, since they put up signs (although I was a little annoyed when I had to get off the road and give way to a truck, my dog likes following it) but the destruction of nature in what is zoned as a “pedestrian park”

If there was any ‘nature’ there worth protecting from the destruction of those lazy truck driving good for nothing non white collar workers, perhaps the government would have zoned the area something a little more substantive than ‘pedestrian park’. If I was one of those tradies, I wouldn’t care if I drove over some exotic grass species and the odd rabbit warren, along what is clearly a power line easement to save myself a few metres walk either.

Um, okay, that’s hilarious, Cormac McCarthy.

thy_dungeonman11:50 am 26 Jun 10

The creepy music was to cover up the sound which ended up worse than the video, 100 points to whoever can guess what soundtrack it’s from. As for making the job easier on tradesman, the point here is that this doesn’t really make it easier when there are cul-de-sacs just as close by, if you look at the map the road almost connects them all up. My main problem here isn’t pedestrian safety, since they put up signs (although I was a little annoyed when I had to get off the road and give way to a truck, my dog likes following it) but the destruction of nature in what is zoned as a “pedestrian park” and it just irritates me seeing this big stamp of blatant vehicle use in one of the few places where cars are not meant to drive and also the negative effect on “pedestrian” paths. I guess we’ll see whether the government feels the same way.

georgesgenitals11:02 am 26 Jun 10

Pork Hunt said :

georgesgenitals said :

troll-sniffer said :

The laziest groups of people in Canberra, nay, in the nation, are fishermen and tradesmen. Asking a tradie to park 20m further from a jobin the hope of saving a patch of grass would be like telling him he’s not allowed to watch the 50″ plasma.

Agreed. I’ve used a range of tradies over the past few years, and they are incredibly unreliable, and generally thoughtless.

Talk about tarring everyone with the same brush…

I’ll have to start putting ALL public servants in the same pidgeon hole labelled “useless and bone idle”.

I was referring to the tradies I’ve used.

And thank God I’m not a public servant!

georgesgenitals said :

troll-sniffer said :

The laziest groups of people in Canberra, nay, in the nation, are fishermen and tradesmen. Asking a tradie to park 20m further from a jobin the hope of saving a patch of grass would be like telling him he’s not allowed to watch the 50″ plasma.

Agreed. I’ve used a range of tradies over the past few years, and they are incredibly unreliable, and generally thoughtless.

Talk about tarring everyone with the same brush…

I’ll have to start putting ALL public servants in the same pidgeon hole labelled “useless and bone idle”.

georgesgenitals10:51 pm 25 Jun 10

To the tail-gunners who think that tradesmen are the ‘laziest people in Canberra’,

I invite you to come and work with me for a day and you will think differently. Taking parking short cuts is not being lazy, it is doing something to make an extremely tough job a little less hard when you need to carry heaps of materials and tools to the worksite,

that is cheaper on clients because it cuts down on time spent on the job.

Things would be even easier if tradies spent less time yapping on their mobiles and constantly driving between jobs. Just my experience, I’m sure it’s not all of them.

I sympathise Dungeonman; we have seen a very similar degradation of the network of neighbourhood parkland areas through much of Curtin for similar reasons.

In Curtin, much of the blame can be laid at the feet of the unidentified contractors to the electricity/gas/communications utilities (plus the utility companies in their own right) who have been doing a large amount of underground cabling work in the district over the past few years.

Not only have they created an extensive network of dirt tracks in what are supposed to be non-motorised green spaces, but the areas disturbed by cabling trenches are invariably left without any restoration of topsoil and without any re-grassing of disturbed areas. This amounts to the destruction of public assets.

As in your case, the utlities and their contractors have had no hesitation in ripping out or destroying bollards built at public expense by Parks and Conservation to stop this kind of activity. Some kind of financial compensation to Parks and Conservation would be in order to allow the restoration of wrecked public spaces.

The laziest groups of people in Canberra, nay, in the nation, are fishermen and tradesmen

And community nurses. When asked to move their car out of the driveway so as not to block in the car of someone who needed to leave our house, I’d get given a completely befuddled look and asked “but where shall I park?”

Ummm… how about on the street (quiet suburbia) in front of the house!?!? Geez, anyone would think I was asking them to run a marathon.

WonderfulWorld10:21 pm 25 Jun 10

quote comment=”265994″]Umm… was there a question in there at all, or just a bunch of facts? “

Ditto

To the tail-gunners who think that tradesmen are the ‘laziest people in Canberra’,

I invite you to come and work with me for a day and you will think differently. Taking parking short cuts is not being lazy, it is doing something to make an extremely tough job a little less hard when you need to carry heaps of materials and tools to the worksite,

that is cheaper on clients because it cuts down on time spent on the job.

I seem to remember that two children were killed in Banks years ago playing in an easement near their home that was used by construction vehicles (there is a playground in Banks to commerate these two).

I also remember that the driver was in no way at fault, it was an unfortunate accident.

With that said, I think that the OP is justified in asking this question – should trucks be allowed to drive in areas like this if there are no warning signs? You can’t assume that everybody will be able to hear them, or expect them, or even look before they cross the grass

luther_bendross said :

Umm… was there a question in there at all, or just a bunch of facts? Although this isn’t in my neighbourhood, I don’t think I’d have a problem with it if it was. It’s just enterprising people making a shortcut through the rabbit warren-like series of cul-de-sac’s.

Until the dumping starts.

thy_dungeonman7:06 pm 25 Jun 10

Is there a question needed? are random complaints now out of place on RiotACT? My pioint with space was that it’s now visible as road from above as opposed to being just a few tyre-marks and patches of erosion. I’d hardly call them enterprising, creating a road through a nature reserve just becuase they felt there ought to be one there, I don’t see why avoiding the cul-de-sacs is an advantage since they lead right up to where these people are working, which is about 5m rather than 20m away, the playground is a prime example it couldn’t be located any close to the end of the cul-de-sac. But whatever I might as well ride a motorbike down a bike path or drive my car across peoples’ front lawns when I feel it’s more convenient.

With the dramatic music, and the dog running in front like it was leading us somewhere creepy, I was a bit disappointed when there wasn’t a crazy UFO crash site or something at the end!
(busted log barrier doesn’t count)

georgesgenitals6:43 pm 25 Jun 10

troll-sniffer said :

The laziest groups of people in Canberra, nay, in the nation, are fishermen and tradesmen. Asking a tradie to park 20m further from a jobin the hope of saving a patch of grass would be like telling him he’s not allowed to watch the 50″ plasma.

Agreed. I’ve used a range of tradies over the past few years, and they are incredibly unreliable, and generally thoughtless.

troll-sniffer5:56 pm 25 Jun 10

The laziest groups of people in Canberra, nay, in the nation, are fishermen and tradesmen. Asking a tradie to park 20m further from a jobin the hope of saving a patch of grass would be like telling him he’s not allowed to watch the 50″ plasma.

luther_bendross5:10 pm 25 Jun 10

Umm… was there a question in there at all, or just a bunch of facts? Although this isn’t in my neighbourhood, I don’t think I’d have a problem with it if it was. It’s just enterprising people making a shortcut through the rabbit warren-like series of cul-de-sac’s.

Also, er, not to be too pedantic, but the altitude of the Google Maps shot would not constitute ‘space’. Well, I suppose if would in the Euclidean sense, but not in an astronomical one.

This is happening all around Canberra. There’s a similar track/roadway on Hawks Hill in Hughes. Lazy builders and homewoners have taken to using these areas not only as roads (often with heavy vehicles delivering bricks, concrete and the like) but also as their own personal dumping ground.

It’s amazing how piles of old building material, washout from concrete trucks and concrete mixers seem to end up in these areas after dark.

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