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The smoke free prison?

By johnboy - 12 March 2009 44

It might not have any prisoners, but the Canberra Times reports that the Alexander Maconochie Centre (the prison to you and me) is still wrestling with the issue of smoking bans.

    ”Smoking is not permitted inside any AMC building, including cells and cottages [and] the Government is currently developing a policy regarding smoking,” the spokesman said.

So really the endless delays are a fortunate thing, providing time for essential policy formulation.

While the OH&S dream of forever ticking the “no smoking” box is a noble one to any bureaucrat, we can’t help noting that a prison population is made up of criminals and encouraging them to disable smoke alarms could be counter-productive in the long run.

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44 Responses to
The smoke free prison?
barking toad 10:57 am 12 Mar 09

#14 FC

“A policy will be developed in regard to smoking….”

Like the policy in relation to drugs?

A detailed policy developed by the social engineers will be adhered to by the punters when they eventually check in at the motel?

Hahahahahahahaha!

Hippies are funny.

FC 10:23 am 12 Mar 09

This is complete rubbish. IS the Canberra times registered as a “gossip mag”

“Prison officers are worried that a proposed smoking ban at the ACT’s first jail will lead to a backlash from inmates.

The move would make the prison one of the first in the country to ban smoking indoors.

The plan would see prisoners restricted to lighting up outside, but the ACT Government says full details of the policy are yet to be finalised. “

There seems to be nothing but speculation in this article.
A policy will be developed in regard to smoking, where it is permitted, where not etc.
There will not be a complete ban on smoking outside.

Furry Jesus 10:22 am 12 Mar 09

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

Prisoners should only be allowed to smoke in the jacuzzi, definitely NOT in the theatre, spa or wine bar.

No – the jaccuzi should be left alone, giving prisoners a sanctuary from the tribulations of the day, where they can unwind and discuss their plans for what they’ll do when they get out – opening a small business, going back to uni, working with people with disabilities, fund-raising for children with cancer, doing something for the environment etc. What about an outdoor area adjacent to the wine bar? Perahps with a barbecue so prisoners can cook their own dinner?

Furry Jesus 10:18 am 12 Mar 09

jakez said :

Furry Jesus said :

What’s next? Forcing prisoners to eat muesli and tofu burgers?

Tofu burgers? Now that is a violation of someones natural rights.

You’re right – I forgot that denial of liberty is a punishment in itself. However, I believe that somewhere underneath this nannyist thinking is an attempt to address prisoner health (and for the guards too – 40% of guards smoke cf 80% of prisoners).

The article said that a smoking ban was introduced to Greenough Regional Prison in July 08, and only one prisoner had tried to stop smoking, although a few others had asked for nicotine patches. Given the stellar success of this attempt, one wonders what plans Corrections has for helping smokers give up, or cope with withdrawals. Something based on their effective programs for helping prisoners stop offending or get off drugs, perhaps?

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_ 10:14 am 12 Mar 09

Prisoners should only be allowed to smoke in the jacuzzi, definitely NOT in the theatre, spa or wine bar.

Spideydog 10:09 am 12 Mar 09

johnboy said :

This new subject is about a total ban on the grounds of the facility.

Yeah, I’d like to see that ??? For being such a tree huggy prison, I am very surprised to see them trying ban smoking everywhere there ?? Does this also mean that the employee’s at the prison will npt be allowed to smoke either ??

jakez 10:08 am 12 Mar 09

Furry Jesus said :

What’s next? Forcing prisoners to eat muesli and tofu burgers?

Tofu burgers? Now that is a violation of someones natural rights.

Furry Jesus 10:02 am 12 Mar 09

What’s next? Forcing prisoners to eat muesli and tofu burgers?

johnboy 10:00 am 12 Mar 09

This new subject is about a total ban on the grounds of the facility.

DarkLadyWolfMother 9:58 am 12 Mar 09

Is taking away someone’s right to smoke a violation of their human rights?

FC 9:45 am 12 Mar 09

I think there is just the ban of smoking inside the buidling. (which makes complete sense as it is banned inside all other buildings in the ACT [with the exception of BRC]), but with the way the prison is set out, can’t they just go to a “fresh air” area to have a cigarette.

frontrow. people go to gaol as a punishment, not for punishment.

Thumper 9:36 am 12 Mar 09

I just want to know what the punishment will be if you are caught smoking?

Solitary?

frontrow 9:26 am 12 Mar 09

Why do prisoners get to smoke? I thought jail was a punishment.

I don’t smoke. My vices of choice are alcohol and “all the pies”. I suspect prisoners don’t get to enjoy those.

barking toad 9:23 am 12 Mar 09

They can’t keep drugs out of prisons but they’ll be able to stop smoking in this shrine to human rights incarceration!

Hahahahahahahahahaha!

The only way that will happen is if there are no inmates. Oh, hang on ……..

Thumper 9:07 am 12 Mar 09

You couldn’t make up this prison if you tried…

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