The smoke free prison?

johnboy 12 March 2009 44

It might not have any prisoners, but the Canberra Times reports that the Alexander Maconochie Centre (the prison to you and me) is still wrestling with the issue of smoking bans.

    ”Smoking is not permitted inside any AMC building, including cells and cottages [and] the Government is currently developing a policy regarding smoking,” the spokesman said.

So really the endless delays are a fortunate thing, providing time for essential policy formulation.

While the OH&S dream of forever ticking the “no smoking” box is a noble one to any bureaucrat, we can’t help noting that a prison population is made up of criminals and encouraging them to disable smoke alarms could be counter-productive in the long run.


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writzi1488 writzi1488 10:25 pm 18 Nov 10

I think this does not happen in every country because each and every country has different rules for the ban of cigarettes.
I read it here -: http://www.ecigarettereviews.com/smoking-ban-list

vg vg 12:09 am 15 Mar 09

I think all your first mistakes is thinking its a prison

dvaey dvaey 9:01 pm 14 Mar 09

Okay, I’ll bite..

Pragmatic1 said :

Seriously though, if I ever go to prison, I hope they let me bring my electronic cigarette. Man, I love that thing! It’s pretty much saving my life (and money, haha!)

From the website you posted:
Green Smoke Basic Starter Kit with USB – $ 149.00
Electronic Cigarette Cartridges 5PK – $ 14.95
Unfortunately, most of the cartridges are in back order. We currently only have in stock Tobacco 0mg.

In other words, in order to even try the product it will cost $165. Even at the advertised rate of 1 cartridge = 2 packs, youd have to smoke approx 40 packs to just break even. If you think this saves you money, you kinda deserve to be sucked in by the marketing. (Oh, and that $165 price will get you 0mg cartridges..)

Pragmatic1 Pragmatic1 5:35 pm 14 Mar 09

Haha, those advertisements are bound just as funny as the anti-marijuana commercials are!

Seriously though, if I ever go to prison, I hope they let me bring my electronic cigarette. Man, I love that thing! It’s pretty much saving my life (and money, haha!) If you haven’t seen them, check out what I’m talking about at http://greensmokes.blogspot.com

Davo111 Davo111 1:00 am 13 Mar 09

*i can see the new advertisements

Davo111 Davo111 1:00 am 13 Mar 09

I can see the new laws ‘Don’t break the law, cos you don’t get to smoke in prison’

ant ant 11:47 pm 12 Mar 09

Davo111 said :

if they get caught smoking in the prison, they should just spray them with a fire house for 5 minutes. Then they get the embarrassment, and the ciggis all go soggy.

That does not work! Have you not seen First Blood? They tried that method, and it failed in a spectacular manner.

peterh peterh 10:27 pm 12 Mar 09

fabforty said :

This is insane. Smoking is NOT a human right. If they allow smoking for “nicotine addicts” in prison then they therefore must supply alcohol to “alcoholics”. Bundy and coke anyone ? In outside areas only, of course.

I think the ACT Government would be better served by policing the smokers it employs. I estimate the smokers in my building work an average of an hour a day less than the non-smokers. Anyone want to do the sums ?

good god no. then my little breaks would show up as unproductive wastage of time…

😉

fabforty fabforty 9:51 pm 12 Mar 09

This is insane. Smoking is NOT a human right. If they allow smoking for “nicotine addicts” in prison then they therefore must supply alcohol to “alcoholics”. Bundy and coke anyone ? In outside areas only, of course.

I think the ACT Government would be better served by policing the smokers it employs. I estimate the smokers in my building work an average of an hour a day less than the non-smokers. Anyone want to do the sums ?

DJ DJ 9:47 pm 12 Mar 09

WIN news will add sound the story line “Riot in Jail from smoking ban”… kinda makes you wonder where the ciggies will be hidden to avoid the cell checks.

To quote Chris Rock…. “Stop smoking that shit”

cranky cranky 9:38 pm 12 Mar 09

I would hazard a guess that local Gov have crunched the sums and worked out that the proceeds from tobacco taxes far exceed any expenditure they are required to contribute to smoking related health issues.

I would also guess that smoking related health issues are paid for by the Feds, so this woman can carry on about the evils of smoking, knowing full well the taxes help pay for Grasby statues.

peterh peterh 9:19 pm 12 Mar 09

cranky said :

The Minister Not Responsible really came across as an anti-smoking Nazi on the WIN News tonight.

A deal of thought should go into this policy, not just compliance with draconian edicts from herself!

well, as I have already said, to many, many people and some times on RA, to cure us smoking addicts, cheaply, ban tobacco. How can something so bad for us still be sold? They don’t manufacture with asbestos, so why do they sell ciggies? cost for maintaining health issues must outweigh the gain in taxation and levies…

cranky cranky 7:27 pm 12 Mar 09

The Minister Not Responsible really came across as an anti-smoking Nazi on the WIN News tonight.

A deal of thought should go into this policy, not just compliance with draconian edicts from herself!

boomacat boomacat 7:17 pm 12 Mar 09

I feel sorry for the prison guards, the last thing I would want is a prisoner withdrawing from smoking. Anyway, wouldn’t smoking be one of the main ways for prisoners to fill their empty days? Better that than getting up to mischief, that’s what I’d think if I were a prison guard.

jakez jakez 4:32 pm 12 Mar 09

caf said :

The point of it isn’t healthy choices or more punishment. It’s got nothing to do with prisoners at all, in fact – it’s simply that workers in a gaol are as entitled as any other worker to a smoke-free workplace.

Yeah, zero entitlement.

Whatsup Whatsup 4:13 pm 12 Mar 09

Deadmandrinking said :

Go home and think about what you said, Whatsup.

I think you thought about it a little too much DMD.

caf caf 4:12 pm 12 Mar 09

The point of it isn’t healthy choices or more punishment. It’s got nothing to do with prisoners at all, in fact – it’s simply that workers in a gaol are as entitled as any other worker to a smoke-free workplace.

Mike Crowther Mike Crowther 4:01 pm 12 Mar 09

I wish I had $1 for every prisoner who’d ever said to me “What are you gunna do chief, put us in gaol?”

Politicians that make promises they have no intention of keeping find its a short step to making up rules that, whilst appealing to some sections of the community ( “…healthy choices…..more punishment…etc) can’t actually be enforced.
And so the downward spiral continues……

monomania monomania 2:14 pm 12 Mar 09

Kramer said :

Before we address the issue of being smoke-free, maybe we need to address the issue of being prisoner-free?

(AMC – Australia’s first prisoner-free prison)

Think of the boasts.

Rate of recidivism: 0%
No. of escapes: 0
Effectiveness of security equipment and software: 100%
No. of prisoners caught smoking inside: 0
No. of prisoners who fail to quit smoking: 0

Kramer Kramer 1:48 pm 12 Mar 09

Before we address the issue of being smoke-free, maybe we need to address the issue of being prisoner-free?

(AMC – Australia’s first prisoner-free prison)

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