The top secret night club finger print machine?

johnboy 6 December 2008 47

On the ongoing saga of night club finger printing, PM has posted an account of his efforts to document the process:

    “A few weeks ago I tried to take some photos of the machine and I was asked by a bouncer to stop because it was private property 🙂

    So, appreciating the opportunity to further highlight the irony of the situation, I tried to take a couple of photos of them. It was probably a bad idea, but until that time my friend and I were just being lighthearted.

    They chased me and my friend across the road where we stopped at a police van – no police around, but things calmed down. We figured the police would be nearby, and no bouncer’s going to attack a couple of blokes right next to a police van.

    I was told that if I ever came back they’d bash my f**king head in, or words to that effect.

    I know many bouncers – most are great. But the main bouncer that night was a right cockhead who shouldn’t hold a security license.”

UPDATED: A slideshow of PM’s death defying investigative photography is below:


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p1 p1 1:20 pm 08 Dec 08

I wasn’t there for long at all.

I was suggesting that maybe someone other then you had been irritating them, and your timing resulted in you copping their wrath. I am not suggesting that that is appropriate behaviour for bouncers in the slightest.

It the machines are on the footpath, then I fail to see the issue at all. Go in with a camera crew, lighting, boom mic operator, etc, and see how they react…

poptop poptop 12:28 pm 08 Dec 08

It seems to me that the Club in Question has set up some equipment on public pavement and appear to be impeding pedestrian traffic.

If anyone wants to use Big Brother Equipment, surely it should be within the confines of their leased space?

PM PM 11:48 am 08 Dec 08

I wasn’t there for long at all.

After reading about the machines on The Riot Act I was interested in them, so took photos. It that’s stirring the pot, then I’m guilty as charged.

p1 p1 11:37 am 08 Dec 08

…but looks like the person taking the photos was stirring the pot, and when some people are stirred they get violent.

While this is very true, the people in question are supposed to be trained security professionals, who I would expect to meet a higher standard. That said, you don’t know what fu%&tard had been baiting them for the last three hours…

farnarkler farnarkler 5:13 am 08 Dec 08

Next time perhaps hire your own security. Why all the hype over a machine in an awful nightclub?

luke79 luke79 3:49 pm 06 Dec 08

Im not really a fan of violence but looks like the person taking the photos was stirring the pot, and when some people are stirred they get violent. If they did bash that person then i wouldnt have much sympathy. in my eyes that sorta thing is pretty much the same as picking a fight with someone.
That fella standing infront of the police van looks like that where’s wally fella.

dexi dexi 10:09 am 06 Dec 08

Like most people I would expect not to be physical assaulted regardless of the occupation of the assaulter. There is no legitimate reason to threaten violence other than repulsing violent attack. Bully boys.

ant ant 10:01 am 06 Dec 08

Well, the bouncers can come on here and type replies with their sausage-like fingers.

I reckon those fingerprint machines will be responsible for the next pandemic. Everyone who touches them one night will catch one person’s plague, and it will race through Canberra like wildfire, and we’ll all be quarantined with carts to pile the dead on.

phototext phototext 9:33 am 06 Dec 08

Worth having a gander at if you are waving a camera about.

http://www.artslaw.com.au/legalinformation/StreetPhotographersRights.asp

http://www.4020.net/words/photorights.php

Both Australian based.

phototext phototext 8:57 am 06 Dec 08

If you are taking photographs on private property they can ask you to stop, obviously, and the trouble is that the ACT government probably charges them rent on the footpath area outside the club. The line between private and public property may not be so clear cut.

If you are on public land then you are well within your rights to photograph the club etc etc…. as far as I know. But taking photographs of people, even in a public place can be fraught with danger. A lot of people believe they have a right to privacy in public places, the right not to be photographed. They don’t, but I personally believe that people have a right to expect you to stop if they ask, it is just being polite.

Upskirt etc etc is different kettle of fish, that will land you in court and rightly so.

Some bouncers really shouldn’t be bouncers but arguing a point with them is just looking for trouble. You don’t go around poking wasps nests and then wonder why you got stung.

The thing to remember is that the bouncers are at work and like most people we do expect a level of privacy at work, it is a lot different to walking through Civic and having someone take some snaps of you.

I think the bouncers over reacted but you did push it.

Spam Box Spam Box 6:49 pm 05 Dec 08

Started off interesting – sure as s#!t went downhill fast (even for RA)

Mr Evil Mr Evil 6:11 pm 05 Dec 08

dexi said :

Ive got a story about nail clipping’s that keep appearing on the couch. Ive got photos if you want to see them.

Just make sure any pictures you submit are well composed! 🙂

Mr Evil Mr Evil 6:09 pm 05 Dec 08

PM said :

dexi said :

I don’t think bouncer should get to beat anyone. Wouldn’t that be assault.

Yeah… I don’t want to be beaten up either, dexi. It hasn’t happened before, so it should be right.

No, no one ever gets beaten up by bouncers – they just have a nasty fall in a stairwell.

caf caf 6:07 pm 05 Dec 08

Non physical “provocation” is never an excuse for violence. If you can’t contain yourself to verbal responses to verbal provocations, you’ve got anger management issues that should preclude you from working as a door goon.

dexi dexi 5:48 pm 05 Dec 08

It has potential violence, potential photo’s, potential finger printing and evil night club bouncers. Not to mention an assault on press freedom.

You could organise a 24hr challenge where rioters hit the town and find unique Canberra stories. They could be given credit for the number of reply post or if the CT prints them. They would lose credit for food references, troll activity, or poor blurry photo’s.

Ive got a story about nail clipping’s that keep appearing on the couch. Ive got photos if you want to see them.

DJ DJ 5:47 pm 05 Dec 08

caf said :

DJ: That probably entirely depends on whether PM’s workplace is open to the public, as a nightclub is.

I would also be interested to hear what you think PM could have said and not reported here that would, in your view, have justified threats of violence.

Please remember that I am not a fan of nightclub security…

Provication or even intimidation (PM??)… even the most sedate gorilla can eventually be goaded into action. Regardless if the provication justifies physical action or not if you put the bait out sometimes you get a nibble or a bite despite your intentions or because of them. Is it right? Probably not but in most cases you read of here the provication seems to be forgotten and it’s just a case of “there I was innocently walking by when….”

barking toad barking toad 5:29 pm 05 Dec 08

#13 HINGO – Ahh, the story of “I was overcharged for a pizza”.

“Where can I buy a coffee” pales in comparison.

caf caf 4:33 pm 05 Dec 08

So they’ll match the nightclub, then?

Kizzle Kizzle 4:27 pm 05 Dec 08

will the machines self clean? they’d have to get grubby later on in the night.. kababs, chips, semen, etc.

PM PM 4:15 pm 05 Dec 08

dexi said :

I don’t think bouncer should get to beat anyone. Wouldn’t that be assault.

Yeah… I don’t want to be beaten up either, dexi. It hasn’t happened before, so it should be right.

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