The worst of the worst?

Tooks said :

Aurelius said :

Ever since the child pr0n case involving pictures of Bart & Lisa Simpson, and the case of the guy who was charged with child abuse for posting video of a child being taught to be a circus performer by his circus-performer parents (when the video itself was rated MA15 by the censorship board), I’m sceptical about media reports about child abuse cases.
The media and police cry wolf too often.
So, unless we’ve sat in the court room and heard the details of a case, uninformed comment based on media reports is exactly that – uninformed.

You’re sceptical, why? This guy (allegedly) produced child porn, using his own son, as well as other children. The other cases you mentioned (Bart and Lisa, Circus performer) are irrelevant.

We don’t need to sit in court to know the basic details of the case and those are that he produced child porn and committed acts of indecency on children under 10.

+++1 Nailed it.

Aurelius said :

Ever since the child pr0n case involving pictures of Bart & Lisa Simpson, and the case of the guy who was charged with child abuse for posting video of a child being taught to be a circus performer by his circus-performer parents (when the video itself was rated MA15 by the censorship board), I’m sceptical about media reports about child abuse cases.
The media and police cry wolf too often.
So, unless we’ve sat in the court room and heard the details of a case, uninformed comment based on media reports is exactly that – uninformed.

You’re sceptical, why? This guy (allegedly) produced child porn, using his own son, as well as other children. The other cases you mentioned (Bart and Lisa, Circus performer) are irrelevant.

We don’t need to sit in court to know the basic details of the case and those are that he produced child porn and committed acts of indecency on children under 10.

DJ @9 – Precisely. They aren’t equivalent.

Not quite sure what you’re trying to argue, since you’re agreeing with me, but arguing with me at the same time.

hellspice said :

im no lawyer so why is it the supreme court and not the magistrates for sentencing ?

Supreme Court hears matters that are more serious – with minimum sentences of imprisonment being 12 months or more. These are called Indictable offences, and have to be heard in a higher Court – Magistrate’s Court does not have the jurisdiction to hear them.

Let’s hope he doesn’t see the light of day for a very long time.

Trix,

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Yeah godz, I even spelled out I was being sarcastic. Should I ring a bell too?

im no lawyer so why is it the supreme court and not the magistrates for sentencing ?

Aurelius said :

Ever since the child pr0n case involving pictures of Bart & Lisa Simpson, and the case of the guy who was charged with child abuse for posting video of a child being taught to be a circus performer by his circus-performer parents (when the video itself was rated MA15 by the censorship board), I’m sceptical about media reports about child abuse cases.
The media and police cry wolf too often.
So, unless we’ve sat in the court room and heard the details of a case, uninformed comment based on media reports is exactly that – uninformed.

*shaking head*

The media and police cry wolf too often?

Is there something wrong with you?

I hope it’s not you that something happens to and the cry of wolf gets made and nothing gets done to help. Seriously. Comparing teaching circus performance and using your own child to produce porn… apples and oranges?

Ever since the child pr0n case involving pictures of Bart & Lisa Simpson, and the case of the guy who was charged with child abuse for posting video of a child being taught to be a circus performer by his circus-performer parents (when the video itself was rated MA15 by the censorship board), I’m sceptical about media reports about child abuse cases.
The media and police cry wolf too often.
So, unless we’ve sat in the court room and heard the details of a case, uninformed comment based on media reports is exactly that – uninformed.

Leaving aside actual mental disability and psychiatric issues, I have pretty much the kind of background you mention, Pommy Bastard, in terms of how you characterise pedophiles being formed. And guess what, I find what they do just is as despicable as what the majority of the population do. In fact, I think I have a better idea of just how vile it is.

I also think those who are genuinely mentally incapable – and who understandably have no idea of appropriate boundaries – are very much the minority of pedophiles.

But for the others, I can vouch for the fact that no matter how screwed up and abusive your upbringing, it’s up to you to -choose- whether to continue the abuse. There is no way in the world in today’s climate (or that of the last 40 years, which is what I know of) that you can think pedophilia is socially acceptable.

Other areas of abuse, such as giving your wife the bash, raping “sluts” who “ask for it”, and whacking your children around may be still be more or less acceptable for certain individuals or social groups (although that excuse is wearing very thin these days). Kiddie-fiddling doesn’t fall into those categories – it’s never been regarded as appropriate in any circs.

Why not separate the pedophiles from the rest of the prision population? Or are we happy to turn a blind eye to what happens to them?

Do pedophiles themselves have a ranking system also? Do the pedos who sleep with 12yr olds look down on pedos who sleep with 7yr olds?