3 November 2023

Time for governments to keep the 1996 Port Arthur promises on gun safety

| Deb Nesbitt
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There is still a way to go when it comes to gun control laws in Australia. Photo: ACT Policing.

Australians are rightly proud of our gun laws, but the promises made after the 1996 Port Arthur gun massacre have never been fully met.

Our political leaders now have the chance to fully live up to the promises they made in 2002 in response to the tragedy as they mull options for a national gun registry.

Late last week, the man who killed 18 people and injured another 13 in Maine in the US was finally found dead by his own hand. Gun violence is now the biggest killer of children in the US.

As the latest tragedy unfolded, the country’s deadliest in an alarming uptick of gun violence, US Vice President Kamala Harris lauded Australia as an exemplar on gun laws, saying, “Let us be clear, it does not have to be this way”.

Standing beside Harris, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese’s response took us back to our darkest day for gun deaths.

“Every time there is one of these [mass shooting] events, I am grateful Australia did act in a bipartisan way after the Port Arthur massacre,” he said.

The strong, unequivocal bipartisan support that delivered the national firearms agreement in 1996 following the Port Arthur massacre has not wavered. Albanese and Coalition leader Peter Dutton demonstrated that at a commemoration of the tragedy at the National Museum in June.

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Dutton applauded the Prime Minister for his and national cabinet’s work on gun laws and committed to ongoing cooperation, saying: “The work will never be done. There will always be a next iteration of firearms, of technology that needs to be grappled with, and on a bipartisan basis.”

Albanese reiterated a promise to finally deliver on a pivotal aspect of the 1996 national firearms agreement between the federal, state and territory governments – a national firearms register.

Attorneys-general and police ministers from across the country had unanimously agreed to present national cabinet with options for the register, he said. Just 21 years late.

Apart from the Federal Government managing gun imports and exports, gun laws are the responsibility of state and territory governments and vary across jurisdictions.

No state or territory has ever fully complied with all of the national agreement, and gun laws have been gradually undermined, research by Gun Control Australia shows.

Gun control advocates remain wary that the national register will be sufficient to protect us from the threat posed by these weapons in the community, and we’re yet to see any detail.

The concern is that the national register will simply link each state and territory register and that it won’t tell us how many and what types of guns are out there, where they are, who’s been licensed to own them and under what, if any, conditions, and why they need them.

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Soon it will be one year since the shocking murders in Wieambilla in Queensland of two young police officers and a neighbour and the attempted murder of another police officer by three people who were able to amass high-powered guns, some transported across state borders.

Dutton said in June that the lives lost in Wieambilla could have been saved had a national register been in place. Let’s hope he’s right and the federal firearms register is universal, consistent and fully functional.

It’s important to note that guns are often an element in family violence. Their mere presence is used as a method of coercive control – a gun laid on a bed, a gun safe left open after an argument.

Guns have been the leading cause of child deaths in the US since 2020. Such is the political power of the hugely funded National Rifle Association, no one seems to know how to stop the slaughter in that country.

What it took here was courageous national political leaders to drive change at all levels of government.

We need them now to not just remain steadfast but lean heavily on their state and territory counterparts to live up fully to the promise they made in 1996.

What we really need is for the state and territory to relinquish control to permit national firearms law. It’s only logical that gun laws are uniform and consistently enforced across the country.

Still, it shouldn’t take the Port Arthur slaughter, the bloodbath in New Zealand or the Weilambilla killings for political leaders to properly protect us from weapons that do not belong in the community.

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I thought it was well written Paul Jenkins!

So Deb, let me see if I understand what you are saying here.

You seem to say:

1. Australia has sensible, responsible firearm ownership laws which are working well, widely accepted by the Australian population and are held-up world wide as an example of how legal ownership of firearms can, and should, be managed.

AND

2. As a result of something that happened in a foreign country that has exercised very little control over firearm ownership, Australia should change its own sensible, responsible and working laws?

Interesting!

Yes, Howard used similar jingoist language when he said “we don’t want Australia to become like the US”. Totally irrelevant judging one culture by another. It cost the Liberals a lot of trust and votes, still does.

No Sam Oak the government has not legalised drug possession as you well know.

The government has made the bold decision to introduce laws to decriminalise small quantities of illicit drugs for personal use. Much of the commentary from our local media and others lacks honesty, is alarmist and is way over the top!

These new reforms aim to divert people who use drugs away from the criminal justice system and encourage them to access diversionary programs or health services. A tough on law approach to drug use has never worked.

Well done to the ACT government for having the courage to implement these new laws and brickbats to the Liberal opposition who have done nothing but confuse and peddle misinformation!

Lol I guess there is an important distinction I’m missing. Let’s decriminalise small quantities of firearms for personal use then!

LOL’s at the Canberra Liberals and supporters like you! It is only the Canberra Liberals and their supporters who are desperate enough to try and draw a distinction between drug reforms and gun control laws. A party that does not represent ACT voters and is on their way out!
Roll on election night 2024!! 😂

Gregg Heldon8:46 am 02 Nov 23

Jack, got to love your broad, sweeping generalisations towards certain groups of people. And political parties too. And their policies.
Let me correct you. The Liberal party is not representative of all ACT people but not is Labor and neither are the Greens. And for a small amount of people, none of the three are representative. Within each of the two main parties, you will have centrist voters, moderates, left or right wing voters and far left or right wing voters.
Some people on the right voted yes recently, including Mark Parton, a man with proud Indigenous heritage. Some people on the left voted no for whatever reason. Including here in Canberra.
Never generalise or make sweeping judgement calls. Just makes you look like an idiot.

As I pointed out Gregg Heldon, it is only the Canberra Liberals and their supporters who are desperate enough, and have been trying to draw a correlation between drug reforms and gun control laws. The party, their supporters including their federal colleagues, the ACT Young Liberal movement, media and right wing fringe groups have been very active and vocal over a long period in their opposition to these new drug laws. This opposition has been way over the top, alarmist and dishonest.

You bring up Mark Parton’s pride at his Indigenousness. Mr Parton our tik-toking MLA and man about town has only recently discovered his Indigenousness. I have never seen this man lift a finger in support of the ACT’s large Indigenous population before or after this discovery.

This included him and his leader Elizabeth Lee refusing to answer questions during campaigning for the Voice and turning a blind eye to deputy leader Jeremy Hanson who, in collusion with far right fringe groups, used the local Liberal party’s platform to run his vociferous, toxic and divisive No campaign. 

Mr Parton’s relief the morning after the vote said it all on his Facebook page “It’s over”. Yep thank God for that he doesn’t have to try and answer questions any more. Many of the replies to his post said it all about the people he was appealing to!

Past election results are clear, the Canberra Liberals support in the ACT is diminishing. Canberra voters voted overwhelmingly YES in the Voice referendum and have long memories. They won’t forget!

Gregg Heldon8:01 pm 02 Nov 23

Tell me Jack, how many MLAs do the three parties each? It’s about even, isn’t it?
You do like to draw a long bow, don’t you? It’s all you have argument wise. That, and your blind, rusted on Redness.
Whatever keeps you asleep and warm at night.

There are only two major parties in Australian politics Gregg Heldon, Labor and the Liberals. The irrelevance and hopelessness of the Canberra Liberals has seen the minor Greens party emerge as the second major party in the ACT. A pretty remarkable feat but considering how far right the Canberra Liberals have moved since the leadership of their moderate and only Chief Minister Kate Carnell it is not surprising.

Whether I am blinded or a rusted on Red is irrelevant. My political leanings, and I presume most other Canberrans if past ACT election results are any indication, can sleep soundly and keep warm at night knowing that the right wing crazies of the Canberra Liberals are not in government!

Don’t get me started on those up and coming wannabes in the ACT’s Young Liberal movement!

Gregg Heldon8:51 pm 03 Nov 23

You don’t answer the question but just continue your rant.

The Labor and Liberals are close Gregg Heldon. A little too close for comfort considering the abysmal number of votes the Canberra Liberals secured at the last two elections. Leader Elizabeth Lee barely made it over the finishing line and was rewarded with the leadership! This is an unfortunate outcome of the Hare-Clark voting system.

This type of voting system gives an unfair advantage to the larger parties in which they pool their preferences to ensure their candidates get elected. This method of electing candidates means that quality candidates, often independents who do well in the popular vote, lose out to second rate candidates. Peter Cain and Ed Cocks are two such examples who only won on their party’s preferences.

Hopefully we will see these underwhelming underperformers gone after the next election!

It is ridiculously hypocritical that the government has legalised drug possession but continue to treat us as children when it comes to guns. Drug induced deaths are far more prevalent than gun violence in the US.

Not for children.

Capital Retro4:07 pm 01 Nov 23

If you are going to say “Gun violence is now the biggest killer of children in the US” you should also acknowledge that knife violence is the biggest killer of children in Australia, also.

Does this mean that knives should be banned ?

“you should also acknowledge that knife violence is the biggest killer of children in Australia, also.

Why would they acknowledge something that isn’t true and you just made up?

Capital Retro8:36 pm 01 Nov 23

“On 19 December 2014, at 11:20 a.m., police were called to 34 Murray Street in the Cairns suburb of Manoora in Australia, where eight children were found dead. The victims were aged between 18 months and 14 years. The bodies, with stab wounds, were discovered by the children’s 20-year-old brother.”

I didn’t make it up, I recalled it.

The Manoora tragedy does not prove your claim that knife violence is the biggest killer of children in Australia CR! If you did a bit of research you would find that injuries and disease are the leading causes of child deaths in Australia!

You had a bit of a hiatus for a while CR. I am glad you have returned!
Your comments bring a smile to my face!

They didn’t say “a major cause”. They said “the biggest killer”. Which means the leading cause. And looking at https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/leadingcauses.html it seems both are false. The leading cause is accidents – mostly poisoning and car accidents. Suicide is really high up there too…

Bahahaha, did you really just try to double down with you claim by pulling a 10 year old anecdote?

Your claim was that knife violence was the biggest killer of children in Australia.

Which is completely false.

Vousie that doesn’t necessarily disprove CR’s claim as knives can be involved in either of those two things. But funny how your “statistics” don’t include abortions and euthanasia huh? As though both of those are good outcomes for society!

Capital Retro8:39 am 02 Nov 23

A national gun register isn’t happening because the mindset of non-cooperation and data sharing between the states (and Territories) since the days of colonisation is still alive and well.

An example is recently a friend (Canberra driver) was driving north on the Hume Highway near Gundagai and a NSW highway patrol car stopped him. It was alleged that my friend was exceeding the speed limit and this was disputed. My friend has never had a traffic offence and the officer said that if he had a NSW driver’s license his driving record could be instantly accessed via the patrol car’s computer and if there were no previous infringements recorded a warning could be issued but no financial penalty would be levied.

As NSW police are denied access to the ACT Police computer the officer issued an infringement notice and fine but told my friend that he could contact ACT Police when he reached Canberra and request a copy of his driving record (for a fee) and then send it to NSW Police and consideration would be made to waive the fine if no previous convictions were recorded. This was done.

So much for the MOU between NSW and the ACT.

Capital Retro9:41 am 02 Nov 23

With respect Jack D., the context of this post is “violent” death but if we accept what you say, then the same would apply for America, no?

Capital Retro12:10 pm 02 Nov 23

Whatever you say, chewy14.

Meantime in the case of firearms all licensed firearm owners in Australia have that fact noted on their driver’s licences. The data is kept on Crimtrac and will flag on the police car’s computer if a highway patrol officer stops a speeding motorist. The cop may ask “are you carrying firearms in your vehicle?”. They cannot search the vehicle without reasonable cause.

Capital Retro1:12 pm 02 Nov 23

In Switzerland, they have national service in the military and after that the participants take home their service assault rifle and 50 rounds of ammunition and become army reservists.

This policy gives assurances that an armed invasion from another country would be unlikely.

No it isn’t what I say CR, it’s what the actual statistics say.

You won’t find “knife deaths” anywhere on the list despite your ridiculous claim.

https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/life-expectancy-deaths/deaths-in-australia/contents/leading-causes-of-death

Capital Retro3:37 pm 02 Nov 23

You are deliberately going outside the context of what the author of the post is alluding to and her claim that “gun violence in the USA is the biggest cause of death” etc. but then you always look for the fifth leg on the cat when I express an opinion, don’t you?.

“In recent years, the most common cause of death for homicide victims in Australia was a stab wound: this accounted for 37% of deaths. This was followed by blunt force (19%) and gunshot wounds (13%). Other causes of death included strangulation, shaking, burns and poisoning”. – Bond University study.

Rubbish chewy, are you suggesting it is impossible to die from a knife? It’s not listed because they don’t specifically track such deaths. It falls under other undefined causes such as suicide!

Rubbish Sam Oak,
Statistical analysis of suicides are also conducted with death by “sharp implement” being well down the list equating for about 5% of total suicides.

There is not a shred of evidence for Capital Retro’s claim and your attempted support of it is ridiculous.

If you think you are correct, give us a link for anything remotely supporting it.

Oh, I hadn’t even seen Capital Retros latest attempt at ridiculousness yet in flopping around like a fish because his claims around gun and knife violence in Australia don’t remotely relate to his claim.

You wrote this:

“If you are going to say “Gun violence is now the biggest killer of children in the US” you should also acknowledge that knife violence is the biggest killer of children in Australia, also.”

Why do you think the Homicide rate of adults in Australia is remotely related to your claim of what kills children in totality?

There are around 400 homicides in Australia yearly. Of around 200000 total deaths.

The author talks about gun violence of children in the USA being the biggest killer because it has literally been the number one killer of those age groups in recent years. Of all causes.

There is nothing even remotely out of context in pointing out that the situation in Australia is completely different because of our gun control laws.

Our rates of homicide, all causes are not even close to the USA.

Our children do not die of gun or “knife” violence anywhere near the rates of the USA.

Those are straight statistical facts. Try to understand how ridiculous you sound when you claim something different.

Once again, happy for you to provide a link if you think this information is wrong.

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