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Ask RiotACT: Are traffic lights the answer?

By reactor 14 October 2015 28

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Recently the ACT Government put out a flyer about road changes coming for the Gungahlin area. Amongst these was the proposal to signalise the large roundabout at the intersection of the Barton Highway, William Slim and Gundaroo Drives.
Does anyone else think that putting traffic lights on the roundabout is a half-baked solution and that the whole problem couldn’t be better solved with just some more time and money and a bit of innovative thinking?  
Shouldn’t the highway, which carries heavy vehicles, go up and over and be straight?  It is a dangerous intersection.  I wondered if there was any other way possible and practical within a reasonable cost (given the long term benefits).  
How come we can put in flyovers for the GDE (or even the tiny road leading to Sutton over the Federal – by NSW Government I guess) but not have a straight Barton Highway?

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miz 3:50 pm 16 Oct 15

bd84 said: . . . another half-assed road infrastructure job of the ACT Government, like all the other road infrastructure projects in Gungahlin at the moment. Their practice is to ignore the problems for decades, then try and solve the problem in the cheapest and illogical way, when they could have fixed it years ago for a cheaper price.’
Welcome to Tuggeranong’s world for the past 20 years!

rosscoact 2:46 pm 16 Oct 15

JC said :

If so no comparison as not lights on that one or are you maybe suggesting the government needs to build a replica of the Arc de Triomphe in the roundabout as street art? Maybe more like the Arc de Triomphe Carrousel which is found in Place du Carrousel near the Louvre. Maybe a good idea because then when an overpass is eventually built it could be used as the mid span support.

Super idea. Some outriggers with rotating Eiffel Towers would complete it. Please run for the Assembly on this ticket.

dungfungus 2:10 pm 16 Oct 15

JC said :

dungfungus said :

HenryBG said :

JC said :

This kind of arrangement is very very common in the UK and it does actually work.

Well, if we want to emulate the UK, let’s cut loose and build a magic roundabout – this would have the added benefit of creating a new tourist attraction for our town:

High Wycombe, one roundabout turned into 6 interlocking roundabouts:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/61165493641f7104df39b6d2214c1ad6a41579dc.jpg

Hemel Hempstead: 7 roundabouts in one:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08/13/article-2391834-1B474150000005DC-939_634x412.jpg

Our government prefers something more Parisian so nothing less than a roundabout as grand as the Arc de Triumphe will do!

The Arc de Triomphe is an Arc, not a roundabout. It does have a roundabout that goes around it called Place Charles de Gaulle. Is that what you mean? If so no comparison as not lights on that one or are you maybe suggesting the government needs to build a replica of the Arc de Triomphe in the roundabout as street art? Maybe more like the Arc de Triomphe Carrousel which is found in Place du Carrousel near the Louvre. Maybe a good idea because then when an overpass is eventually built it could be used as the mid span support.

I deliberately set that up for you as you love to split hairs. What else could I possibly mean?

JC 1:05 pm 16 Oct 15

dungfungus said :

HenryBG said :

JC said :

This kind of arrangement is very very common in the UK and it does actually work.

Well, if we want to emulate the UK, let’s cut loose and build a magic roundabout – this would have the added benefit of creating a new tourist attraction for our town:

High Wycombe, one roundabout turned into 6 interlocking roundabouts:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/61165493641f7104df39b6d2214c1ad6a41579dc.jpg

Hemel Hempstead: 7 roundabouts in one:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08/13/article-2391834-1B474150000005DC-939_634x412.jpg

Our government prefers something more Parisian so nothing less than a roundabout as grand as the Arc de Triumphe will do!

The Arc de Triomphe is an Arc, not a roundabout. It does have a roundabout that goes around it called Place Charles de Gaulle. Is that what you mean? If so no comparison as not lights on that one or are you maybe suggesting the government needs to build a replica of the Arc de Triomphe in the roundabout as street art? Maybe more like the Arc de Triomphe Carrousel which is found in Place du Carrousel near the Louvre. Maybe a good idea because then when an overpass is eventually built it could be used as the mid span support.

rubaiyat 11:13 am 16 Oct 15

dungfungus said :

HenryBG said :

JC said :

This kind of arrangement is very very common in the UK and it does actually work.

Well, if we want to emulate the UK, let’s cut loose and build a magic roundabout – this would have the added benefit of creating a new tourist attraction for our town:

High Wycombe, one roundabout turned into 6 interlocking roundabouts:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/61165493641f7104df39b6d2214c1ad6a41579dc.jpg

Hemel Hempstead: 7 roundabouts in one:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08/13/article-2391834-1B474150000005DC-939_634x412.jpg

Our government prefers something more Parisian so nothing less than a roundabout as grand as the Arc de Triumphe will do!

This is the delightful Blot on the Landscape bitumen and concrete desolation, that $30 million gets you:

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/content/dam/images/1/w/r/f/y/image.related.articleLeadwide.620×349.1wrhf.png/1334134776627.jpg

dungfungus 11:05 am 16 Oct 15

HenryBG said :

JC said :

This kind of arrangement is very very common in the UK and it does actually work.

Well, if we want to emulate the UK, let’s cut loose and build a magic roundabout – this would have the added benefit of creating a new tourist attraction for our town:

High Wycombe, one roundabout turned into 6 interlocking roundabouts:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/61165493641f7104df39b6d2214c1ad6a41579dc.jpg

Hemel Hempstead: 7 roundabouts in one:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08/13/article-2391834-1B474150000005DC-939_634x412.jpg

Our government prefers something more Parisian so nothing less than a roundabout as grand as the Arc de Triumphe will do!

HenryBG 10:58 am 16 Oct 15

JC said :

This kind of arrangement is very very common in the UK and it does actually work.

Well, if we want to emulate the UK, let’s cut loose and build a magic roundabout – this would have the added benefit of creating a new tourist attraction for our town:

High Wycombe, one roundabout turned into 6 interlocking roundabouts:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/61165493641f7104df39b6d2214c1ad6a41579dc.jpg

Hemel Hempstead: 7 roundabouts in one:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08/13/article-2391834-1B474150000005DC-939_634x412.jpg

JC 10:22 am 16 Oct 15

rubaiyat said :

$30 million to gold plate an intersection that has opened up a huge chasm across the road and only funnels more traffic along the same roads? A very expensive dirty short term “solution” that never gets the “We’ll all be bankrupted” into the same lather as a clean long term solution.

The cleaner solution you refer to would not be of any use to this intersection. The vehicles that use this are no where near the light rail route and many are travelling Gungahlin to Belconnen. Unlike the planned route, which I am very much on record saying I support, Gungahlin to Belconnen wouldn’t work. Doesn’t have the population density to make it work. So this is an example where road transport is the answer and bottle necks like this need to be minimised.

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