Traffic lights coming to roundabouts?

joingler said :

Stinger said :

Wow. They should do that on the Barton Hwy round-a-bout as well!

We need an overpass there like the one on Kings Avenue/Parkes Way.

We also need Gundaroo/William Slim to be duplicated

I totally disagree you knew where you were buying your house or decide ding where to rent. Why should thevrestvof Canberra pay so you can get home quicker. If you didn’t want this problem you shouldn’t live in gungahlin

Don’t tell me someone has figured out that roundabouts don’t work and traffic lights are far superior!!!!

gooterz said :

Anna Key said :

Is this one outcome of the election – Zed’s tactics have resulted in the ALP paying attention to something south of Belconnen

Could do with something similar on Sulwood Dve westbound to help clear the tailback on Athllon each morning.

They’ll tax it with the speed camera yet won’t duplicate it.

14 speed camera’s down south. 9 north. Yet only roads on the north are seeing work.
North side even gets a train, that would make more sense down south.

Of course the north side gets more investment in public infrastructure knucklehead, that’s where all the population growth is, while the likes of Tuggeranong are shrinking.

Anna Key said :

Is this one outcome of the election – Zed’s tactics have resulted in the ALP paying attention to something south of Belconnen

Could do with something similar on Sulwood Dve westbound to help clear the tailback on Athllon each morning.

They’ll tax it with the speed camera yet won’t duplicate it.

14 speed camera’s down south. 9 north. Yet only roads on the north are seeing work.
North side even gets a train, that would make more sense down south.

Thanks Primal – exactly.

Bring it on….. this is a great idea. the wait time northbound in the morning can be incredibly long and because the number of southbound cars are few the cars coming from the west get a clear run while northbound can take up to 15 minutes just from Noorooma, let alone from Johnson.

Is this one outcome of the election – Zed’s tactics have resulted in the ALP paying attention to something south of Belconnen

Could do with something similar on Sulwood Dve westbound to help clear the tailback on Athllon each morning.

Northside gets public works. South gets screwed with speed cameras timed roads and useless traffic light round abouts.

Only 4 more years….

KB1971 said :

I don’t understand your reasoning.

I think he means that having lights on the eastbound traffic lets more of the southbound traffic through at speed, which makes it harder for the westbound traffic to enter the roundabout. If southbound was being more regularly cut off (or at least slowed down) by eastbound, it would create more opportunities for westbound to go.

miz said :

Good plan – people have to run the gauntlet to cross that roundabout going westbound, very dangerous. indeed. IMHO, it was only made worse by the lights stopping the east bound traffic.
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How is it dangerous? There have been no accidents directly attributed to the traffic lights now?

How are they running the gauntlet? Light goes green, cars move up to the next line and gives way the light traffic to the right. Meanwhile the heavier traffic to the left moves while it can & then gives way when there is a car on the roundabout.

I don’t understand your reasoning.

Good plan – people have to run the gauntlet to cross that roundabout going westbound, very dangerous. indeed. IMHO, it was only made worse by the lights stopping the east bound traffic.

They are seriously going to have to widen Isabella Dr sometime, too. It makes no sense to get people thru the intersection only to get held up with a merge into a single lane. Should be a dual carriage way – the land is ready and waiting.

I said they’d need to do this years ago when they installed the silly set of Northbound only lights.

Bravo for catching on TAMS.

Have people not heard that “Roundabouts represent freedom; roundabouts represent liberty; roundabouts represent democracy at its finest”.

While traffic lights are “…a Bolshevist menace”.

According to Peter Phelps from the NSW parliament anyway
http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod%5Cparlment%5Chanstrans.nsf/V3ByKey/LC20110812?open&refNavID=HA5_1

Search the text for “Speed and safety cameras”. Canberra gets a positive mention.

dks00k said :

That’s not such a bad idea if it proceeds. I gather its intent is to reduce the long line of traffic heading northbound on Drakeford Drive in the morning. Perhaps it will reduce the number of morons who turn left into Athelon Dr and u-turn at the Ankatel St roundabout to avoid the queue.

However what I would like to see is something to assist Isabella Dr traffic heading West in the PM…..

Not only do they U-Turn, but they stream through Bonython as well. I think lights may help, although I think in all directions would be beneficial and they need to be at the intersection, not set back like the ones they have now.

Chop71 said :

joingler said :

Stinger said :

Wow. They should do that on the Barton Hwy round-a-bout as well!

We need an overpass there like the one on Kings Avenue/Parkes Way.

We also need Gundaroo/William Slim to be duplicated

I don’t use these roads but agree with you

Same, Gundaroo Drive being single lane and splitting then re-merging for every roundabout or set of lights is a bit of a joke.

joingler said :

Stinger said :

Wow. They should do that on the Barton Hwy round-a-bout as well!

We need an overpass there like the one on Kings Avenue/Parkes Way.

We also need Gundaroo/William Slim to be duplicated

I don’t use these roads but agree with you

KB1971 said :

That whole roundabout needs to go, it banks the traffic back up to Johnson Dve some mornings. It need a set of lights at none of the other intersections on Drakeford bank up like that, even at the busiest times.

Funny – it used to be a set of lights years ago and everyone thought the roundabout would fix the problem.

There are currently part time signals Eastbound on Athllon Drive into this roundabout, which control traffic exiting the town centre precinct into Isabella Drive and Drakeford Drive. These lights are about 50m back from the roundabout, allowing a few cars to get through and queue into the roundabout. The main benefit of these lights is to allow Southbound traffic in the evening to get through the roundabout, reducing travel times for people heading South to e.g.: Conder and Gordon.

In the morning peak minutes there is a large volume of traffic heading North on Drakeford Drive which gets cut off by traffic entering from Isabella Drive, heading West to the town centre precinct and North to Kambah and beyond. A significant proportion of this Westbound traffic on Isabella Drive consists of vehicles that leave Drakeford Drive onto Johnson Drive, rat-run through Ellerston Avenue then Drumston Street and then turn left onto Isabella Drive.

Since it only takes a few cars per minute entering from Isabella Drive to jam up Drakeford Drive, the rat runners are making the commute worse for everyone. Thus installing the temporary signals will have two immediate benefits: first, morning peak Northbound traffic on Drakeford Drive will flow through the roundabout more freely and second, there will be less traffic on Ellerston Avenue speeding through two school zones.

These lights can’t come quickly enough!

They’ve been on the eastbound lead-in for PM traffic for a few years at least, so this is a trial on the westbound lead-in in the AM.

That whole roundabout needs to go, it banks the traffic back up to Johnson Dve some mornings. It need a set of lights at none of the other intersections on Drakeford bank up like that, even at the busiest times.

That’s not such a bad idea if it proceeds. I gather its intent is to reduce the long line of traffic heading northbound on Drakeford Drive in the morning. Perhaps it will reduce the number of morons who turn left into Athelon Dr and u-turn at the Ankatel St roundabout to avoid the queue.

However what I would like to see is something to assist Isabella Dr traffic heading West in the PM…..

Stinger said :

Wow. They should do that on the Barton Hwy round-a-bout as well!

We need an overpass there like the one on Kings Avenue/Parkes Way.

We also need Gundaroo/William Slim to be duplicated

pete09 said :

Haven’t these lights been there for ages?

They have temporary lights northbound, the release specifies westbound.

Haven’t these lights been there for ages?

Wow. They should do that on the Barton Hwy round-a-bout as well!