Train wreck in ACT Corrections, are we surprised we hear about it now?

I wonder if Corbell will be the Emergency Services Minister for much longer?…

I fail to see how this is a problem. By my calculation it is a good thing.

Whilst the majority of ACT scum bag prisoners are in NSW, when their pieces of sh!t family wants to visit them they only commit one crime in the ACT, stealing a car to get there and back. On that day they really have no time to commit any other crimes here, what with the lengthy travel and drive-offs from servo’s on the highway for fuel to get home.

When the scum bag criminals are in the ACT holiday camp their sh!t family have enough time to steal a car, do the visit, and break into a few houses on the way home.

Sure, it’s the Government’s fault or even the CFMEU. I would probably point the finger at middle and upper management of the companies involved. They take on large contracts using multiple down stream contractors with short lead times. They have a poor understanding of the actual work to be done at the quoting stage. They create unrealistic project management time lines. They adopt new technology with little or no local support. They rarely consult with field staff. ‘They” are rarely held accountable.
Id even bet that the techs are individually employed by contract & recruitment companies on short term contracts.

Mike Crowther said :

The final score was a destroyed institution, some staff permanantly disabled and a number of crooks flogged sensless by gaol heavies for items such as their wedding rings etc.

I didn’t think you could wear wedding rings in prison.

Maybe just leave the word wedding out.

So someone forgot to buy a Yale for thr gate?

Mike Crowther said :

I think there is a bigger issue here.

If the safe running of the prison is so dependent on the operation of the elctronic security system, what happens when (note I didnt say ‘if’)the system goes down when the place is full of active prisoners?

This happened at the so-called ‘high-tech’Parklea Prison in ’87 The final score was a destroyed institution, some staff permanantly disabled and a number of crooks flogged sensless by gaol heavies for items such as their wedding rings etc.

Well, thank god that will never happen here…..not with a human rights act on the books…..

they will all go for joyrides in the southcare chopper….

I think there is a bigger issue here. If the safe running of the prison is so dependent on the operation of the elctronic security system, what happens when (note I didnt say ‘if’)the system goes down when the place is full of active prisoners?

This happened at the so-called ‘high-tech’Parklea Prison in ’87 The final score was a destroyed institution, some staff permanantly disabled and a number of crooks flogged sensless by gaol heavies for items such as their wedding rings etc.

Well, thank god that will never happen here…..not with a human rights act on the books…..

Yeah, they have but!

Calling this a “crisis” is over-egging things a little I think, Thumper.

Would have got some headlines for one day’s news cycle.

And would have got Sonic’s eyeballs bulging out and his neck tendons straining as he cranked up the righteous indignation and the angry voice.

“If only someone had run on promising to move Grassby there…”

JB, at the end of the day, I doubt it would have made much of a difference to the result…

That said, it’s not too late should the Libs somehow manage to form govt…

johnboy said :

PM said :

I heard a funny one about the artwork in the prison lobby the other day – they shouild swap it with the Al Grassby statue 🙂

If only someone had run on promising to move Grassby there…

probably would cost more than the facility itself – lot of bronze used…

PM said :

I heard a funny one about the artwork in the prison lobby the other day – they shouild swap it with the Al Grassby statue 🙂

If only someone had run on promising to move Grassby there…

Perhaps The ACT Government can institute capital punishment to cull the numbers of remandees down to sustainable levels.

I love it – perfect solution. Very President Mobutu.

This sort of thing isn’t too unusual nowadays in any public service. Announcing it was open may have been jumping the gun…

I heard a funny one about the artwork in the prison lobby the other day – they shouild swap it with the Al Grassby statue 🙂

It must be an infringement of the remandees human rights to be crammed into the Belconnen Remand Centre.

Perhaps The ACT Government can institute capital punishment to cull the numbers of remandees down to sustainable levels.

I’m sure Defence would take the contract.

Kramer said :

If they rush the install of the security system, the first prisoners will be able to “pardon” themselves.

and take photos of themselves doing it.

If they rush the install of the security system, the first prisoners will be able to “pardon” themselves.

Ari said :

LG said :

maybe the Chief Minister can pardon the first prisoner to enter the centre?

Welease Wodewick!

anyone called jon here?

I am jon, and so’s my wife.

LG said :

maybe the Chief Minister can pardon the first prisoner to enter the centre?

Welease Wodewick!

I was ready with my “yeah, and how much more are they going to wack on the original agreed price to build the centre”, but I was pleasantly surprised when I heard that they are actually doing the right thing and paying back 44k a day! Would have been nice if the developers of the GDE would have done the same until the actual double lanes were built. Mind you, I’m not fully versed in that side story, and it’s probably a VERY different kettle of fish.

you mean its not open??…

someone better sticky tape that ribbon back together..

will we get a re-opening ceremony? maybe the Chief Minister can pardon the first prisoner to enter the centre?

It’s kind of made my day in a way. So amusing and familiar and comfortable it’s almost lovable.

: )

It’s a cascading pileup woody, a metaphorical pile-up.

So if they’re 7 years late we get the prison for free!!!

Seriously it doesn’t seem like a major thing an they’re being compensated I’m not sure what the big deal is.

considering the lengthy time that this project spent in tender response, with queries, extensions and final shortlists, i am amazed. (not really)

and considering the contract value, $ 113,302,679.10, for bovis lend lease, you would think we would have received a bit more for our money?

and here is the contract, if you want to read it – http://www.contractsregister.act.gov.au/contracts/cr.nsf/0/B5FBD08A8B0E8E4ACA2572040080D30B/$File/Contract%20Information%20-%20Public.pdf

god bless FOI!

BTW, the milestones are interesting…

By the way, what words are you going to use when there is a train wreck? You’ve already wasted ‘train wreck’ and ‘distressing’ on a delay with a subcontractor in one aspect of a single civil works project. Perspective, JB, perspective.

Wonder which current or former CFMEU people were involved with the installation contract?

Government has problem with contractor, contractor pays government $44K a day in penalties. What’s ‘distressing’ about that? If a project manager who understimates their milestones is ‘manifestly out of its depth’, then they all are, because they all do, public or private.

CT reports that it is Chubb Security who have ballsed up, and who are paying the damages to the ACT Gov.

Bovis would be the main contractor, but would have about the same amount of clout to speed things up as the Gov. – I’m sure Chubb are in the firing line well and truly.

And nothing was known about this delay last week? Boy, are we the mushroom people or what.