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Train wreck in ACT Corrections, are we surprised we hear about it now?

johnboy 21 October 2008 42

The ABC brings word of a distressingly unsurprising SNAFU with the new prison:

    ACT Attorney-General Simon Corbell says the company installing the system appears to have underestimated the complexity of the task.

    The delay is causing overcrowding in the ACT’s remand centres.

    Mr Corbell says the problem has been magnified because New South Wales jails have been temporarily unable to take ACT prisoners.

This of course is the facility “opened” with much fanfare while the election was running.

Are you as thrilled as I am that the mob installing the security system (Bovis Lend Lease) is manifestly out of its depth?

And of course we find out days after the election.


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tylersmayhem tylersmayhem 11:18 am 22 Oct 08

Ease up on the personal abuse eh TM?

Tylers: play the ball, not the man.

Both very fair calls, just making my opinion clear – but knew I was treading on thin-ice.

peterh peterh 11:17 am 22 Oct 08

Ari said :

Skidbladnir said :

fist-hand experience of prisoner behaviour

I hope that’s a typo 😉

well spotted Ari!

Ari Ari 11:02 am 22 Oct 08

Skidbladnir said :

fist-hand experience of prisoner behaviour

I hope that’s a typo 😉

Skidbladnir Skidbladnir 10:56 am 22 Oct 08

Tylers: play the ball, not the man.

As someone with fist-hand experience of prisoner behaviour, Mike Crowther’s views on say, the prison, holds more weight than yours, until you tell us all about your experience of prisons.
But you can go back to forming your opinions on how prisons should be run from watching Oz and reruns of Prisoner, if you like…

(Also, the election was almost a week ago, so for those candidates who didn’t get in its almost ancient history. Get over it.)

johnboy johnboy 10:43 am 22 Oct 08

Ease up on the personal abuse eh TM?

tylersmayhem tylersmayhem 10:39 am 22 Oct 08

I think there is a bigger issue here. If the safe running of the prison is so dependent on the operation of the elctronic security system, what happens when (note I didnt say ‘if’)the system goes down when the place is full of active prisoners?

This happened at the so-called ‘high-tech’Parklea Prison in ‘87 The final score was a destroyed institution, some staff permanantly disabled and a number of crooks flogged sensless by gaol heavies for items such as their wedding rings etc

Just go and watch some DVDs or something will you Mike Crowther? I was hoping that since you made such little head-way in the elections we would be spared from your pointless comments on here.

Another reason I didn’t vote for you is that you seem to have trouble spelling and/or using spell check. While my skills in the English language kinda suck, I’m also not a politician who expects to be take seriously.

peterh peterh 9:40 am 22 Oct 08

Sleaz274 said :

sounds more like the lowest bidder didn’t do their homework and now having won the contract from procurement go hat in hand to ask for more money to finish the contract.

“Well mate I could fix ‘er but don’t have the parts in stock, going to cost you’s more to order them, shippin’ an’ oll dat maaatttee…”

and this sounds fairly accurate?

wouldn’t have helped that the AUD has been bouncing like a big red rubber ball. most of the components would be sourced O/S…

verbalkint verbalkint 7:34 am 22 Oct 08

barking toad said :

Wonder which current or former CFMEU people were involved with the installation contract?

Chubb aren’t covered by the CFMEU, so none at all.

Morgan Morgan 10:48 pm 21 Oct 08

Apparently the Symonston remand centre is a bit scary, I know some people who have seen the inside of that place and they said they wouldn’t lock a dog up in there let alone people.

I know prisoners are criminals, but they will get out one day and i’d just as sooner have them reformed than break into my house. Maybe the extra hugs they’ll get at AMC will work, the current system clearly hasn’t.

Sleaz274 Sleaz274 9:56 pm 21 Oct 08

sounds more like the lowest bidder didn’t do their homework and now having won the contract from procurement go hat in hand to ask for more money to finish the contract.

“Well mate I could fix ‘er but don’t have the parts in stock, going to cost you’s more to order them, shippin’ an’ oll dat maaatttee…”

fhakk fhakk 9:50 pm 21 Oct 08

I wonder if Corbell will be the Emergency Services Minister for much longer?…

bigfeet bigfeet 6:27 pm 21 Oct 08

I fail to see how this is a problem. By my calculation it is a good thing.

Whilst the majority of ACT scum bag prisoners are in NSW, when their pieces of sh!t family wants to visit them they only commit one crime in the ACT, stealing a car to get there and back. On that day they really have no time to commit any other crimes here, what with the lengthy travel and drive-offs from servo’s on the highway for fuel to get home.

When the scum bag criminals are in the ACT holiday camp their sh!t family have enough time to steal a car, do the visit, and break into a few houses on the way home.

dexi dexi 5:50 pm 21 Oct 08

Sure, it’s the Government’s fault or even the CFMEU. I would probably point the finger at middle and upper management of the companies involved. They take on large contracts using multiple down stream contractors with short lead times. They have a poor understanding of the actual work to be done at the quoting stage. They create unrealistic project management time lines. They adopt new technology with little or no local support. They rarely consult with field staff. ‘They” are rarely held accountable.
Id even bet that the techs are individually employed by contract & recruitment companies on short term contracts.

Ari Ari 5:15 pm 21 Oct 08

Mike Crowther said :

The final score was a destroyed institution, some staff permanantly disabled and a number of crooks flogged sensless by gaol heavies for items such as their wedding rings etc.

I didn’t think you could wear wedding rings in prison.

Maybe just leave the word wedding out.

barking toad barking toad 5:14 pm 21 Oct 08

So someone forgot to buy a Yale for thr gate?

peterh peterh 5:08 pm 21 Oct 08

Mike Crowther said :

I think there is a bigger issue here.

If the safe running of the prison is so dependent on the operation of the elctronic security system, what happens when (note I didnt say ‘if’)the system goes down when the place is full of active prisoners?

This happened at the so-called ‘high-tech’Parklea Prison in ’87 The final score was a destroyed institution, some staff permanantly disabled and a number of crooks flogged sensless by gaol heavies for items such as their wedding rings etc.

Well, thank god that will never happen here…..not with a human rights act on the books…..

they will all go for joyrides in the southcare chopper….

Thumper Thumper 5:07 pm 21 Oct 08

Okay, crisis is wrong, blunder perhaps 😉

Give me a break, I’m sitting on my deck drinking beers and being mellow 😉

Mike Crowther Mike Crowther 5:05 pm 21 Oct 08

I think there is a bigger issue here. If the safe running of the prison is so dependent on the operation of the elctronic security system, what happens when (note I didnt say ‘if’)the system goes down when the place is full of active prisoners?

This happened at the so-called ‘high-tech’Parklea Prison in ’87 The final score was a destroyed institution, some staff permanantly disabled and a number of crooks flogged sensless by gaol heavies for items such as their wedding rings etc.

Well, thank god that will never happen here…..not with a human rights act on the books…..

Granny Granny 5:05 pm 21 Oct 08

Yeah, they have but!

caf caf 5:02 pm 21 Oct 08

Calling this a “crisis” is over-egging things a little I think, Thumper.

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