V-DAY CANBERRA IS COMING!

@pierce – Mrs Maelinar is as offended by the ‘V Day’ dilution as I am. She also recommends if people are suffering from DV then they should contact the police, and please don’t sully the true identity of V Day.

On a related issue, she studied History at school, and is therefore very aware of the significance of V Day.

My comment was, in more laymans terms: You said it, dickhead, not me. Go look it up yourself since you are so confused about feminism.

@maelinar – this discussion entered the special stadium long ago mate 🙂

I don’t really understand your comment – not because I’m not smart enough to but because your phrasing is strange. Anyway, whatever, say hi to Mrs Palmer for me.

FC you are a blow-in. I’m aware you didn’t propose any solutions. When you blew-in, I was imploring people to not sully the identity of V Day with this crap, I still am.

I was also imploring people if they are suffering from DV to contact the Police, I still am.

Your GENERATING BROADER ATTENTION to the issues, as I have pointed out, has great potential to massively dilute the effectiveness of the police to deal with DV, AND it is diluting the memory of the people who fought and died for V Day.

I think you are on the rag.

Your attempts to tear me down in anger have only made the froth in your mouth more apparent.

Also, for the reference, I have it on good authority that V Day (vagina version) is readily going to be a 900 series Trademark infringement.

That is, in laymans terms, reserved intellectual property belonging to World War 2, which is agreed INTERNATIONALLY, you know, treaties and multilateral agreements kind of stuff.

I’m not anticipating a long shelf life of V Day (vagina version) at the moment – may I suggest a rename to DV day ? It’s actually symbolic of Domestic Violence, and not confusing with other peoples IP.

“I hate to point this out to you, but you are proposing the American solution.”
Oh, I am. I must have missed that considering I didn’t propose ANY SOLUTION!
You seem to be interpreting what everyone is writing to suit your own ranting and raving.
You’ve completly missed the point.
And again – V’day is about GENERATING BROADER ATTENTION to the issues.
No on is saying that it is a solution. It’s one step in, as you said, what would need to be a comprehensive solution.
You seriously need to pull whatever it is from outta your ass tho. You appear to be one bitter, bitter person.

Apologies for drawing you in the same picture as pierce Cameron.

I note that he’s now attempting to get me to check on the definition of feminism, using what appears to be text that I directly copied from his post, but changed to italics to indicate that I was quoting him.

My guess is this is turning into the special olympics.

My advice back to pierce, while transparently academic to most, is look it up yourself you tard because it was your text I was quoting.

I should also add that I initially linked that wikipedia article simply to point out that Wikipedia listed the V Day discussed by this thread as one of the definitions of V Day.

It’s a wikipedia entry LM, which means it is part of an ongoing and evolving discussion, not an ultimate definition.

There is a much more extensive definition of the term V-Day on this wikipedia page. (Note the hyphen)

While you’re there, maybe you should check the definition of feminism, I think you’ll find that it isn’t about people hating on women as you seem to be saying earlier.

Maelinar, perhaps I wasn’t clear, but I actually agree with you.

My specific reference to Australia was that here V Day is more commonly known as either VE or VJ or VP – but is still V Day.

aka “The root value is V-day, with two subordinate values of VE and VJ day. In Wiki terms, that means they all kind of mean the same thing, but what they really mean is V-day.”

Also @Caf – drawing a link between this event and military commemorations

For starters, I don’t think I’ve been evasive or ambiguous in talking about this as two separate issues.

Secondly, V Day (the Winston Churchill kind) is not a military commemoration.

@Cameron and Pierce – did either of you two dunderheads actually take the time to read that link in Wikipedia ?

The root value is V-day, with two subordinate values of VE and VJ day. In Wiki terms, that means they all kind of mean the same thing, but what they really mean is V-day.

Google 0.07 means nothing if you don’t use the 10 minutes it takes you to comprehend what you are reading wisely.

I like the name – it has positivity to it, implying victory over violence.

Let’s just be glad Alexander Downer didn’t get to name it.

I didn’t want to point it out, because it is not entirely* true. I was being drawn out of my corner.

Neither am I so macho that I don’t entirely consider the work of feminism – where appropriate, as (virtually) everyone hating on some women for being opposed to violence and wanting to do something about it – wow, just wow. You must really feel as though your rights are being threatened here.

I think you will find that I have a very healthy respect for women if you met me IRL. Just don’t expect me sit by as I’m expected to put my coat over a puddle and be called a wanker at the same time.

*I had to use an analogy to reinforce my point

Name and method aside, the cause is certainly a worthwhile one.

I was merely pointing out that I think your drawing a link between this event and military commemorations was simply a flimsy attempt to drum up confected outrage.

In simple terms: There *IS* no single V-for-Victory day.

PS “I could tell you, but I don’t wanna” should have been left in the primary school playground.

Let’s rename it to ‘VD’ day…

Actually, V Day exists in many other countries as exactly that, Victory Day.

As far as Australia is concerned, it is VE and VJ day.

Given that this is a global event though, the clash between the V-Day mentioned by the original poster and V Day as in “Victory Day” is pertinent.

@lord maelinar – you might want to check your angry pills, I think someone mixed in something extra with them today.

A 2 second search for v day (or v for victory day) will tell you that it’s VE and VJ/VP day that you are referring to.

If you can’t get that right, then maybe you should check your facts on other matters.

As for (virtually) everyone hating on some women for being opposed to violence and wanting to do something about it – wow, just wow. You must really feel as though your rights are being threatened here.

Hah! The Wikipedia article for V Day.

@Caf – I’m not your google cookie.

You are merely highlighting the lack of History education that you have, quite significantly I might add.

I’ll leave it to Nyssa and/or Thumper to administer a sound history knowledge beating – they’re more representative of teachers than my own qualifications.

In particular I like the reference about the origins of the V by the English at the battle of Agincourt. Gives a new meaning to the ‘Archers Salute’.

I’ve never heard of V-for-victory day. Is it the same as VE (Victory in Europe) Day? Is it the same as VP (Victory in the Pacific) Day? Halfway in between?

No, V Day is V for Victory Day.

If the women in Africa have a problem with being constantly raped etc, then perhaps they should do something about it ?

I hate to point this out to you, but you are proposing the American solution.

The American solution is to go in on a white charging horse, whitewash through the country, install your own pro-American puppet, and then leave before people start identifying that no problems have actually been fixed, and the puppet is less effective than the previous guy.

I don’t call this a bubble sunshine.

So, if by imploring all the other overweight fat-slob, raggy clothes wearing, leftie, pinko, pro-lezzo, one legged fem-nazi accomplices of yours is going to make ANY difference whatsoever, I think you’ve got another thing coming.

I bet you won’t shave your armpits and might even get out your Canberra Folk Festival clothes just for the meeting – well Kumbayah to you.

Want to know the real solution ? – heck there may not even be one, it’s bloody comprehensive whatever it is. One of the few things I do know, is standing around all lovey-dovey holding hands and thinking that you have the solution is downright dangerous. Read here what happens when lovey dovey solution brokers get good ideas

I’m not proposing any solutions, merely reinforcing the appropriate measure to go through to ensure the judicial system has the opportunity to act appropriately.

As Australia is quite far away from Africa, the advice remains sound. Anybody suffering from DV really should, and I cannot stress this enough, make contact with the Police.

At no time have I mentioned that the issue stops with the Police, or is entirely over to the Police to resolve, but they remain the appropriate contact point.

As for Africans, maybe they need a Government change, maybe they need a social uprising. All the standing around in Canberra you do isn’t going to change their situation one iota.

I bet you even buy this V-Lady’s book, you victim of social economics.

Interesting you think that you are 2 steps ahead of where I’m at, considering I didn’t make my position known – Only commented in relation to your earlier comments.
And if you’ve had any experience with Domestic Violence or with victoms of Domestic violence you would know that they are VERY OFTEN indirectly blamed for the violence -and the focus is on “Why” they (the victim) did not do this or that, instead of it being on the perpetrator – as I stated earlier. I made no reference to to being arrested or convicted.
And again – if you had knowledge of DV cases as far as the police and court system goes – you would realise that the going to the police doesn’t always help – and that going to court seems to effect the victim more than the perpetrator as convictions are rare and sentences minor.
Oh – and I’m sure all the women in africa and other nations being raped, sexually mutilated and beaten are going to find you advice about calling the police extremely helpful..especially considering if they take your advice it’ll probably get them killed.
V’day is about:
” generating broader attention for the fight to stop violence against women and girls, including rape, battery, incest, female genital mutilation (FGM) and sexual slavery”
Wise up and get out of your bubble – its not as simple an issue as you think….
“call the police” problem solved. eh.
Pftt!
And I’m sure that

This is

Make an E, P and a J with your fingers then. After that, get in your timetravel machine and tell Winston Churchill how to do it.

I’m offended that you think my comments so ignorant that you are not offended. My comments are so far ahead of your own rudimentary thinking, I’m talking about topics that are more than 2 steps ahead of where you are.

Snahons is more on the ball than you, including a liberal injection of sarcasm.

Just for the record – I am unaware of any DV victim ever being arrested and convicted for a DV issue. Your comments about responsibility being directed upon women are entirely unfounded.

Persons suffering from DV should contact the police. – yes that’s a fullstop. Yes that sentence applies internationally. Twit.

I am going to start a day to promote awareness of preventing violence against men. It’s going to be called P Day.

I thought VE Day and VP/VJ Day were the two days celebrating victory in WW2.

Why stop at violence against women… why not go the whole hog to end violence against all.
Now where is my vw combi and peace pipe 🙂

I always thought September 7 was the national day for Brazilians.

Lord Maelinar – if you didn’t seem so ignorant your comments might be taken as offensive.
It’s about violence against women around the globe…
And WTF has a women’s refuge got to do with Violence against women in general? If my sister got beat up in the street would she go to a “women’s refuge” – Refuges are about homelessness. Twit. And yes – I know that there are refuges for people escaping domestic violence situations – so women have a roof over their heads. Going to a refuge is not going to solve the problem of violence.
Those types of comments really show where the responsibility for violence is being put – on the women! Responsibility for violence against women should be on the perpetrator of that violence.

And are you being sarcastic in your last comment?
if your not: Twit

Wouldn’t it be better if the had the meeting at Lakemba?

hmm – you can also call the police before you get hit, you can also go to WR before you get hit.

Who died and made you pedant supreme ?

Um, I think this is supposed to be about prevention rather than reacting afterwards – haven’t you heard than an once of prevention is worth a pound of cure?

Who shat in your cornflakes this morning?

Apologies and a hearty thanks to the Admins for modifying some of the nasty swears.

F–king bunch of idiots.

I implore everybody to not allow this to sully the true V-Day memory.

If you have a problem with violence, GO TO THE POLICE. After that, go to one of the many leech organisations that HAVE BEEN SET UP JUST FOR YOU. Womens Refuge springs to mind immediately.

Or is this just a hear me roar activity ?