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Vision Zero rises from the grave!

By johnboy 12 August 2010 32

[First filed: Aug 11, 2010 @ 15:04]

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The Chiefly Stanhope (having recovered from his original vision zero preceding a road toll not seen in many years) has been chanting over the grave of the previous policy and now announces he’s going back to the people with a “discussion paper on how the ACT might adopt a ‘Vision Zero’ road safety strategy”.

The paper is up on the TAMS website and comes with details on how to get your submission into the discussion by 5pm 30 September.

The paper proposes doing more with the following motherhood statements:

— Engaging with the community on stronger road safety efforts;
— Emphasising speed management as a critical component of the safe system approach, with targeted awareness campaigns supported by strong enforcement and targeted engineering measures;
— Implementing safe system infrastructure—which could include local area traffic management measures, revised speed zoning, median barriers on undivided roads, and calming treatments at intersections;
— Strengthening efforts to encourage best practice in adopting vehicle safety technology;
— Developing an educational approach for all road users—with increased investment in strategic awareness campaigns and lifelong learning measures—in an attempt to change the ACT road safety culture;
— Supporting this broad educational approach with effective and sustained general enforcement measures;
— Implementing stringent controls to remove high end offenders from the road system, for example in relation to speeding and drink driving;
— Continuing efforts to obtain strong alignment with key road safety stakeholders on the overall approach to road safety in the ACT;
— Strengthening synergies between road safety and sustainability/environmental issues; and
Implementing best practice data and evaluation processes.

Possibly most striking is the paper’s musing over whether “towards zero” would be more useful than “vision zero” as a slogan.

UPDATE: Mr Stanhope has also announced the findings of a road safety survey which includes:

— a high proportion of residents believe that travelling on roads in the ACT is safe, with only 4% of respondents describing the roads as “unsafe” or “very unsafe”;
— 85% of residents believe that current speed limits in the ACT are “about right”, whilst 11% believe they are “too low” and only 3% believe they are “too high”;
— 85% of residents believe that increasing the number of police officers on the road would improve driver behaviour, and there is a very high level of confidence (85%) in the effectiveness of “police presence” in terms of speed enforcement;
— there is moderate belief in the effectiveness of fixed speed cameras (48%), point-to-point cameras (54%) and speed camera vans (56%);
— 87% of residents feel that compulsory breath testing helps to lower the road toll;
— 17% of residents admitted to answering their hand-held mobile phones when driving; and
roadside signage (electronic road signs and general road signs) was believed to be the most effective with regard to road safety advertising.

Further Update: The Liberals’ Alistair Coe is not impressed:

“Mr Stanhope has indicated that he will proceed with measures such as point-to-point speed cameras and a zero blood-alcohol limit for L- and P-plate drivers regardless of the outcome of any consultation; however we are yet to see any evidence to suggest these measures will make our roads safer.

“It seems that when it comes to a real analysis of the evidence surrounding road safety this data is simply not available,” said Mr Coe.

In an answer to a Question on Notice from the Canberra Liberals asking the number of motor vehicle accidents involving P and L plate drivers, the government replied that it was not possible to gather this data with ‘current systems’.

‘The availability of this data is crucial in targeting the government’s resources in the most effective way,” Mr Coe said.

“There is no consistency from this government when it comes to road safety with little to no meaningful action to make ACT roads safer, ” Mr Coe said.

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astrojax 11:47 am 13 Aug 10

if all road users had to ride a motor cycle/scooter on the road for +12 mths before ever getting behind a steering wheel, we’d all be much better and courteous (and alert) road users.

can’t see that happening, but.

Skidbladnir 11:22 am 13 Aug 10

1) They’re using a model which includes a conclusion and then drawing up logic which supports that conclusion.

2) The logic of their modelling is itself strange.
Police investigate crash in an Y Km/h zone.
Car was traveling at X km/h.
X – Y = Z
When Z > 0, police say speed was a major factor or cause of the crash. Afterall, laws were broken and lawmakers don’t make mistakes, and the (potentially arbitrary) speed limit was set for a reason (probably), and more law enforcement can’t be a bad thing.

When Z is anything other than 0, scientists ask further questions.
Road has a notional ‘safe rated speed’ of P determined by designers.
P > Y.
Scientists investigate if X > P, driver error or overestimation of driving skill was probably the problem.
If Y < X < P , why was the driver driving over the 'legal' limit but under the 'unsafe' limit?
Other questions follow from that answer, conclusions may be made.

Both groups write reports for anyone who will fund them.

Police say "Travelling at speed in excess of Y is the cause of these crashes. If we can prevent everybody from speeding, nobody will die (except for random incidences of people who won’t obey the rules, these cases are unlikely and can’t be prevented anyway).”
Scientists say “The evidence suggests there may be a correllation between the magnitude of Z (positive or negative) and the associated risk of a crash. Certainly, positive values of Z experience a exponential increase in crash risk. Negative values of Z experience an exponential increase in crash risk, but not of the same magnitude and have a larger buffer between magnitude of Z and risk of crash. In any case, there is likely a lower boundary limit of human fatality under current conditions. We can probably prevent more accidents my managing traffic and roads appropriately, or using technological solutions to reduce the impact of human errors. Ideally we could do all three simultaneously and study the results.”

Our Government’s conclusion seems to be “Science is too hard, roll out the speed cameras. “

georgesgenitals 1:24 pm 12 Aug 10

colourful sydney racing identity said :

It is illegal to speed, speed cameras catch people breaking the law, they get fined, that money goes into Government coffers. What is the problem?

There’s no problem. Except we’re talking about road safety here, which is a somewhat different topic (speed cameras are only a part of the picture).

Deano 12:49 pm 12 Aug 10

troll-sniffer said :

fail to understand the broader implications of driver and community psychology.

Are you suggesting that the community makes an unconscious trade-off between the convenience of driving cars and the risks of doing so, that results in an acceptable level of death and injury, and that they would actually resist attempts to impose a different trade-off?

Well, in that case, with only 4% of respondents describing the roads as “unsafe” or “very unsafe”, I’d have to say that road safety is a not a problem.

troll-sniffer 11:42 am 12 Aug 10

Why don’t they survey road safety experts – I’d value their opinion much more than the general public’s.

At the risk of getting a bloody forehead from repeatedly beating it against an intractable wall of narrow thinking…

It is becoming increasingly obvious that the so-called experts are failing to offer the best advice, simply because they are fixated on their theoretical models and demonstrated practical tests that ‘prove’ their pre-conceptions, and fail to understand the broader implications of driver and community psychology.

It is illegal to speed, speed cameras catch people breaking the law, they get fined, that money goes into Government coffers. What is the problem?

AG Canberra 11:01 am 12 Aug 10

– 85% of residents believe that increasing the number of police officers on the road would improve driver behaviour, and there is a very high level of confidence (85%) in the effectiveness of “police presence” in terms of speed enforcement;

There’s your answer. The people have spoken. We all actually agree (well 85% of those asked the question) that more coppers equals safer roads. That’s because they can catch you doing alot more than speeding. They book you for no seatbelts, they breathalyze you, they make sure your crappy vehicle has lights etc. No camera can do all of that.

Bugger me it is so simple. And I am positive the money they raise will more than cover the cost of them.

Just think – driving to work next Monday knowing that every day, 24 hours a day there are at least 15 police cars on the roads watching what you do….

Sgt.Bungers 11:00 am 12 Aug 10

Further to my post above… the reason we have a road toll is that too many of us drive with the false belief that nothing unexpected will ever happen to us… over 99.9% of the time we’re correct. The remaining 0.1%, we’d better be driving in a manner that allows us room for error.

The following video is a perfect example… from the US… a place with similar road rules and setup to Australia… if a driver is somehow able to miss a large pile of rocks on the road, what chance does a child have?

Complacent, laid back, confident drivers are deadly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNpn9ef4URM

Me no fry 10:47 am 12 Aug 10

Uh oh, people are quoting statistics and road safety studies…. I sense a Woody-bomb coming (and in the time it took to draft this, it arrived).

Putting Stanhope’s ridiculous and amateur Vision Zero aside for a moment, along with its risible “Safe System Framework” chart, if you look at the roads in Canberra they are generally in very good condition. In general, things are well signposted, and speed limits seem appropriate (to me at least). I can’t be the only person to drive past an accident site and wonder how on earth a person managed to crash there.

I think that to some degree the road toll in Canberra is measuring a baseline of human stupidity.

On the topic of the government’s obsession with speed cameras, well, as Albert Einstein said, one definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again while expecting a different result. The focus on speed limit enforcement will probably never yield the results the government claims it wants.

georgesgenitals 10:36 am 12 Aug 10

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

Driving quickly under controlled circumstances would provide a much better indicator of whether someone can actually control a vehicle than the current test.

…in your expert opinion.

Apparently not all ACT police officers agree with Mr Stanhope’s views on the dangers of speeding.

…says the guy who reckons he’d happily run over your kids if he saw them on a suburban street.

I know that would get a rise out you.

It’s an opinion, much like any other. I’m surprised you waited this long to get into the discussion. Normally any thread containing some research gets you wound up pretty quickly.

Woody Mann-Caruso 10:19 am 12 Aug 10

Driving quickly under controlled circumstances would provide a much better indicator of whether someone can actually control a vehicle than the current test.

…in your expert opinion.

Apparently not all ACT police officers agree with Mr Stanhope’s views on the dangers of speeding.

…says the guy who reckons he’d happily run over your kids if he saw them on a suburban street.

georgesgenitals 10:01 am 12 Aug 10

Wraith said :

Maybe a new type of test, if you can’t get round WakeField Park track driving a V8 powered sedan in under 1 min 20 sec, then you not allowed to have a license, that should sort it shoudln’t it?

Driving quickly under controlled circumstances would provide a much better indicator of whether someone can actually control a vehicle than the current test. Of course, there’s a lot more to the story (such as knowing the road rules), which would also need to be evaluated.

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