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What are you doing, Canberra drivers?

By ArthurianFish 9 April 2013 52

Yesterday afternoon (08.04.2013) at around 2:30pm, I was t-boned driving home from work along Barry drive by what I now know was a stolen car on the intersection of Boldrewood street.

After pulling over to the median strip, assuming said car would also pull over, the driver swerved out and sped up along Barry drive and took a left down Clunies Ross street. Not a single person stopped to check on the car that was just hit directly on the driver’s side door by someone who fled the scene.

Not one of the multiple cars behind, in front of, next to me or on the other side of the road checked to see if I was alright or whether or not I was even still alive. Obviously I am, but not a single person pulled over to check, or, more importantly at this point, to offer themselves as a witness to the very obvious crime just committed in front of them.

I was struck by a stolen car driven by somene who fled the scene, and am now in the process of getting nothing from my insurance company, I will have an incredibly hard time getting anything out of anyone unless this man is caught, and if just one person had stopped to provide a witness account of what had just happened, I would be in an infitely better position than I currently am.

So please, anybody that was on Barry drive and saw a small blue Hyundai i30 hit by a stolen black Lexus, come forward and help me at the very least get my car fixed. I’m a student working in a supermarket, and I can’t afford to pay for it out of pocket, so please come forward. Leave me a comment, send me a private message with your email or phone number, any way to get in touch with you and help get this sorted would be incredibly useful.

To anybody that reads this, next time you see an accident – minor or major – pull over. Check on the driver, offer a witness statement, call the police and report it to them. Don’t just drive on, or slow down and gawk.

Pull over and offer help in any way you can. I sat and waited in my car, by myself, on the side of the road for almost 30 minutes before another person came and asked if I was okay, and that was only because I had called the police and someone was sent to check on me.

I don’t expect miracles, I don’t expect people to do stupid things on busy roads, but there was no reason that someone couldn’t have pulled over into the blocked off lane like I had to. So please, please, have a little care for everybody else on the road. You may be a little late to wherever you’re going, but it would have made a huge difference for me.

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bundah 3:41 pm 25 Apr 13

The number of absolute fcuktards on the road is approaching epidemic proportions.No question the cab drivers are copping it from some passengers every Friday/Saturday night.Recently i pulled up next to a taxi at Nat Library traffic lights and a bald headed,bare-chested arsehole resembing ‘fat bastard’ jumped out of the front passenger seat and ran to my right rear door and attempted to jump in my car.My doors were unlocked so i gunned it through the red light to avoid having a physical confrontation with someone almost twice my size.Could you imagine if this happened to a woman who was alone in the car,how terrified would she be?

Tooks 9:20 am 25 Apr 13

IrishPete said :

“Unfortunately, it apparently doesn’t work that way… That’s more or less what I thought, but I can’t make a claim against the person it was stolen from because the police can’t give me any details on them, so all I know is their license plate.”

And this was repeated in different words a bit later on.

It’s not “can’t”, it’s “won’t” give you the information. Sub poena the information. Go into the Magistrates Court and ask how, or get a solicitor to do it for you. Or just tell the police that you are going to sub poena it and it may magically become available to you. (It’s probably not officially called a sub poena in Australia, but we see so many American law shows I figured you’d recognise the term.)

IP

To the OP: Please don’t follow that advice. It is a waste of your time. You can get all the info you want from a simple FOI request, which is easy to do and cheap.

D3lerium 8:39 pm 24 Apr 13

ArthurianFish, you may or may not be awear but that lexus has been parked/dumped at the ANU, at the carpark on Daley Road across the road from johns college. it has been in the same position for weeks with front end damage on the right hand side (i think it was).

Hope this helps

Lillypilly 1:05 am 15 Apr 13

Day by day, I see more and more reasons to buy a dashcam….

cantdance 9:05 pm 14 Apr 13

In the past I stopped at accidents and offered assistance, however this stopped after I was pushed over by a angry driver that mistook me for the person who hit him.

I saw a car get clipped on a roundabout on the way to Gungahlin one Saturday afternoon, the car that was hit pulled over so I turned around further up the road and came back down and parked next to him. I hopped out to go and offer assistance as a witness and the guy jumped out of the car ranting at me. I didn’t even have a chance to speak and he pushed me, knocking me down on my bum on the ground. He thought I was the person who hit him. I then told him I was travelling behind him and saw what happened and was coming back to help. He realised his mistake and apologised, but I just said forget it and jumped back in my car and left.

Last time I ever offered to help someone.

IrishPete 2:25 pm 11 Apr 13

“Unfortunately, it apparently doesn’t work that way… That’s more or less what I thought, but I can’t make a claim against the person it was stolen from because the police can’t give me any details on them, so all I know is their license plate.”

And this was repeated in different words a bit later on.

It’s not “can’t”, it’s “won’t” give you the information. Sub poena the information. Go into the Magistrates Court and ask how, or get a solicitor to do it for you. Or just tell the police that you are going to sub poena it and it may magically become available to you. (It’s probably not officially called a sub poena in Australia, but we see so many American law shows I figured you’d recognise the term.)

IP

FioBla 1:16 pm 11 Apr 13

Car insurers don’t offer homogeneous products—even if they seem to. Some allow buyers to reduce their excess in exchange for higher premiums. I happen to know that Westpac does, only because I’m hunting around for car insurance ATM. I think the insurer is underwritten by GIO.

tim_c said :

Yes, in an ideal world we’d track down the criminals and make them pay, not just the excess but the full repair bill. It would be a good disincentive against re-offending – and the community wouldn’t have to pay for every miscreant who happened to lean a little too far to the left and get a bit envious of your nice shiny car.

Those damn lefties. Always in the way of the Ideal World.

tim_c 12:48 pm 11 Apr 13

sarahblaec said :

Yes, the insurer did what they were meant to. They were very helpful and the repairs were taken care of promptly so I didn’t have any issues there, luckily. I do still feel the system is a bit unfair though (and before anyone points it out, I do realise life isn’t fair, I’m just saying the system could perhaps be improved)…

Yes, in an ideal world we’d track down the criminals and make them pay, not just the excess but the full repair bill. It would be a good disincentive against re-offending – and the community wouldn’t have to pay for every miscreant who happened to lean a little too far to the left and get a bit envious of your nice shiny car.

sarahblaec 12:16 pm 11 Apr 13

FioBla said :

Unfair, but seems like in your case the insurance system did what it was supposed to.

Yes, the insurer did what they were meant to. They were very helpful and the repairs were taken care of promptly so I didn’t have any issues there, luckily. I do still feel the system is a bit unfair though (and before anyone points it out, I do realise life isn’t fair, I’m just saying the system could perhaps be improved). I’d be OK with paying slightly higher premiums if it meant repairs could be claimed without an excess in cases where you are not at fault and the at-fault party can’t be found/can’t be caused to pay.

FioBla 10:54 am 11 Apr 13

sarahblaec said :

Wow. If nothing else, this incident proves that there is something [i]seriously wrong with our insurance system[/i]. Someone who is obeying the law is hit by a STOLEN car, and although it’s in NO way their fault, they have to pay for it. That’s not really fair, is it?

A few years ago, my car was vandalised while parked at home. Despite me being fully insured, I had to pay a $750 excess to get the car repaired. On the plus side, my insurer gave me a rental while my car was being fixed. That was vandalised in the same way three days later. Same story again – another $750 excess. So I spent $1500 on insurance excesses in one week, because some idiots thought that smashing up cars was fun. It seems rather unfair that law-abiding citizens have to pay for someone’s criminal behaviour because we are unlucky enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Unfair, but seems like in your case the insurance system did what it was supposed to.

sarahblaec 10:10 am 11 Apr 13

Wow. If nothing else, this incident proves that there is something seriously wrong with our insurance system. Someone who is obeying the law is hit by a STOLEN car, and although it’s in NO way their fault, they have to pay for it. That’s not really fair, is it?

A few years ago, my car was vandalised while parked at home. Despite me being fully insured, I had to pay a $750 excess to get the car repaired. On the plus side, my insurer gave me a rental while my car was being fixed. That was vandalised in the same way three days later. Same story again – another $750 excess. So I spent $1500 on insurance excesses in one week, because some idiots thought that smashing up cars was fun. It seems rather unfair that law-abiding citizens have to pay for someone’s criminal behaviour because we are unlucky enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

OP, I’m saddened to hear that no one stopped to make sure you were OK (I’d love to know what excuse all those witnesses gave themselves for not stopping), and I hope a witness comes forward so this can get sorted out for you.

tim_c 10:03 am 11 Apr 13

Assuming the stolen car had comprehensive insurance (or even third party property insurance), I’d have thought that should cover any damage caused by that vehicle, including if stolen. For example, if someone steals my comprehensively insured car and crashes it into other vehicles and damages them, I expect it would be my insurance that would be paying for the damages (or possibly me if I didn’t have insurance?). I’m not sure how you’d go about actually following this up though given that Mr Plod doesn’t seem to be particularly cooperative (I’m assuming you at least got the registration number of the car that hit you) – you’d have to talk to your insurance provider to find out what’s required in this instance (surely you’re not the first person to be in this situation).

Even if the Police can’t give you details about the stolen car (which I’d be asking more questions about), they should be able to give them to your insurer for the purposes of recovering their costs.

Other than that, life is unfair, and there are risks to driving on the roads – even if you do everything that’s right and responsible (including having third party insurance for people that you might bump into), it doesn’t mean everyone else will, and often this impacts adversely on innocent victims. There are a lot of people out there who were merely going about their lives when they are severely injured (and face months of ‘repair’ surgery, and maybe never live normally again) or even killed by a collision caused by a drunk driver. You might be out of pocket, but you can be very thankful you’re weren’t critically injured or killed.

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