Wifi for the Hospital

johnboy 10 June 2013 26

Chief Minister Gallagher has announced a trial of free wifi in Canberra hospital:

A new trial of free public wifi at The Canberra Hospital has started which aims to make the stay of patients and their families a little bit easier, Chief Minister and Minister for Health, Katy Gallagher, said today.

The trial will include free public wifi in the Paediatrics, Ward 12B (Rehabilitation) initially before expanding to Oncology, Central Outpatients, Emergency Department, and Renal Services areas of The Canberra Hospital later this year.

“The Government is working hard to deliver a more comfortable hospital environment for not only patients but also their families and friends,” the Chief Minister said.

“I am hopeful that this trial will prove successful and provide patients and their visitors with another source of connection to their daily lives while in the care of our health care system.

And in case, like me, you were wondering:

“Internet access will be filtered for appropriateness, and access will be capped to avoid excessive cost to Government. Service levels are designed primarily for browsing the Internet and accessing e-mails.


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goggles13 goggles13 7:18 am 12 Jun 13

what about the supposed effect of computers and mobile devices on medical equipment?

Erg0 Erg0 2:12 pm 11 Jun 13

I was thinking Joseph Stalin, but Mike Tyson is close enough, I suppose.

incredulousandridiculous incredulousandridiculous 2:01 pm 11 Jun 13

Erg0 said :

incredulousandridiculous said :

Yes, insulting someone who consistently doctored government records while being paid $100,000+ (or $200,000+?) by the taxpayer to keep them and (legitimately) improve the system is TOTALLY unfair of mean old me. I admit I am clearly in the category of Mike Tyson pushing his mother down the stairs or a gunman committing a massacre in the US with my violent verbal attack on someone so stressed she was forced to pathologically lie about something as trivial as hospital documents.

poetix said :

Studying for an honours degree in Charm, with a sub-major in Modesty

You forgot the second half of my double degree: latte-sipping at Gus’ and cocktail consumption at Tongue & Groove.

poetix poetix 1:45 pm 11 Jun 13

incredulousandridiculous said :

thoughtpod said :

Also, calling a woman a “bitch” probably means that you should think about how you relate to women. It’s a hostile, misogynistic term, and I’m sure that being the clever university student that you are, you understand why you should probably apologise for using it.

The data tamperer is a bitch, an overpaid ‘professional’ who adversely impacted on the local health system for her own career gain. If the shoe fits, it fits. And misogynistic? Bitch is a gender-specific insult, yes, but in the same vein dickhead, wanker and bastard are terms just as offensively directed at men.

If the tamperer had been male, he would have been ‘the data tampering bastard’. So no apology will be forthcoming. Both of you have an argument that falls flat in this regard.

LSWCHP said :

And you may be a uni student, but I suspect that you don’t know the difference between “elite” and “elitist”, so maybe some remedial English classes are in order.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/elitist

I made a sarcastic comment about uni students referring to the outside presumption that uni students nothing despite implying they know everything. That sort of denigration of uni students is why we are not taken seriously when we question the status quo, either from a left or rightwing perspective, If you don’t have the mental dexterity to recognise ‘elitist’ can be inserted before ‘university student’, not to mention the potential existence of sarcasm in text, I have to question your own knowledge of and expertise in the English language.

Studying for an honours degree in Charm, with a sub-major in Modesty.

Erg0 Erg0 1:42 pm 11 Jun 13

incredulousandridiculous said :

I made a sarcastic comment about uni students referring to the outside presumption that uni students nothing despite implying they know everything. That sort of denigration of uni students is why we are not taken seriously when we question the status quo, either from a left or rightwing perspective

You’re certainly doing wonders for that perception, with your personal insults and strident black-or-white viewpoint.

incredulousandridiculous incredulousandridiculous 1:21 pm 11 Jun 13

thoughtpod said :

Also, calling a woman a “bitch” probably means that you should think about how you relate to women. It’s a hostile, misogynistic term, and I’m sure that being the clever university student that you are, you understand why you should probably apologise for using it.

The data tamperer is a bitch, an overpaid ‘professional’ who adversely impacted on the local health system for her own career gain. If the shoe fits, it fits. And misogynistic? Bitch is a gender-specific insult, yes, but in the same vein dickhead, wanker and bastard are terms just as offensively directed at men.

If the tamperer had been male, he would have been ‘the data tampering bastard’. So no apology will be forthcoming. Both of you have an argument that falls flat in this regard.

LSWCHP said :

And you may be a uni student, but I suspect that you don’t know the difference between “elite” and “elitist”, so maybe some remedial English classes are in order.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/elitist

I made a sarcastic comment about uni students referring to the outside presumption that uni students nothing despite implying they know everything. That sort of denigration of uni students is why we are not taken seriously when we question the status quo, either from a left or rightwing perspective, If you don’t have the mental dexterity to recognise ‘elitist’ can be inserted before ‘university student’, not to mention the potential existence of sarcasm in text, I have to question your own knowledge of and expertise in the English language.

Postalgeek Postalgeek 12:53 pm 11 Jun 13

GardeningGirl said :

Btw I had a tv at my hospital bed over twenty years ago.

What’s your point? Are you saying that money spent on pandering to people’s entertainment is ok if it’s spent on passive hardware like a TV, but providing a pro-active service that allows people to communicate with someone else, send and receive work, conduct general business, and source multifold more entertainment is a waste?

GardeningGirl GardeningGirl 11:26 am 11 Jun 13

Btw I had a tv at my hospital bed over twenty years ago.

watto23 watto23 10:03 am 11 Jun 13

You know the government can’t just go spending money on health because in someones opinion its not good. We in Canberra need to get a bit of a perspective in out lives, because the majority of us we have a really easy life, so much so we can complain about the merits of wifi in hospitals. The hospitals could use some improvement, but I bet a lot of people would love to have a hospital system like ours. Spending money on core health services though doesn’t necessarily improve the service, in fact like most budgets, when you have spare cash it gets wasted on luxury items or things that are not needed. I’m sure we could debate for ages over what is needed and what isn’t however so nothing would get resolved.

Seriously, why is it not a good idea other than the fact that those against have no idea about what the internet is useful other than sprouting the BS spread by the coalition, most likely based around the NBN media rubbish. Also the argument about why should they have free wifi, well most people try not to live in hospitals either so if it is comforting for some then I see no issue with it.

BimboGeek BimboGeek 9:06 am 11 Jun 13

It’s easy to subscribe to a maximum monthly usage for the site. Port blocking can restrict access to desired applications. MAC addresses can be blocked or throttled when they cross a threshold.

The ability to communicate means people can still work while sick, keep on top of family commitments and plan a healthy recovery.

My last trip to ED was spent keeping my girlfriend distracted from her epic pain with episodes of Scrubs. Hospitals are the best place to watch Scrubs. 😛

thoughtpod thoughtpod 8:57 am 11 Jun 13

Lots of good reasons on this forum showing it’s a good idea, by patients or their parents/spouses/relatives. So maybe we should just respect that some people would highly value it, and that it would make a positive difference in their life, and move on?

richiedt richiedt 8:29 am 11 Jun 13

Spent 6 weeks in TCH last year in the Paeds ward looking after my daughter.

This would have been really useful back then and for many parents trying to juggle thier work and caring commitments while their kids are in-patients this will be nothing short of a god send.

Worth the cost.

DontFidget DontFidget 10:17 pm 10 Jun 13

there there, nothappyjan *pats you on the head*

Too much red cordial?

=)

GardeningGirl GardeningGirl 10:15 pm 10 Jun 13

Well said nothappyjan.
If they want to improve things that are peripheral to the actual medical treatment I have a relative who would really have appreciated better food and more toilets for patients in multi bed wards.

nothappyjan nothappyjan 10:03 pm 10 Jun 13

Sorry but there is a difference between things TCH needs and TCH wants.

So who is this actually for:

Staff who want unmonitored Internet so they can Facebook all day long instead of doing their jobs; or

Patients and visitors who have the ability and cash to buy fancy laptops, phones and tablets but can’t afford to pay for their own wireless data usage, like everyone else, or were too cheap to pay the extra money for mobile Internet connectivity option on their gizmos and got wifi only.

Sure it may seem like a low cost and effort to people who have little understanding of how this stuff works, and what it takes to keep a service like this running with happy users. But something as simple as this will very soon need extra bandwidth to cope with youtube, torrents and skype etc, extra security and filters to stop people downloading huge amounts of torrents and porn, more access points to provide better coverage, more IT staff or contractors to do all this etc etc.

Like most IT projects this will rapidly exceed the budget and initial scope, which was probably developed on the back of a napkin over coffee.

You either need to provide a good service that meets the stated aim, which costs more and more money every year, or you don’t provide a free service and let people figure it out themselves and use things as crazy as a telephone (mobile, pay or pbx) all of which can be used to convey information to relatives, specialists and even conduct business affairs such as bill payments and banking. Unbelievable but true!

So yeah I want free wifi everywhere including TCH, because why should I pay for it myself when my taxes will pay for it instead of something we all really need?

I also want super fast Internet at home, but why should I pay for that myself from all the costly available alternatives when the gov will waste billions providing it to me. I also want free parking in the triangle, instead of having to pay just because everyone else has been forced to.

But I guess we don’t or should not always get what we want instead of need?

I suppose Katy has finally figured out the only popular ALP policy; seemingly free and fast Internet for the masses.

DontFidget DontFidget 9:57 pm 10 Jun 13

I used to work at the hospital. I was way too busy to even bother to blink let alone use it. You were referring to the internet, right? (Just checking.)

And, LSWCHP, he was being sarcastic and infuriating. Let’s just pat him on the head and say, there there and move right along.

=)

HiddenDragon HiddenDragon 9:32 pm 10 Jun 13

Very nice for the people for whom it is intended, but imagine the surprise when it is discovered (as surely it will be) that a frisky (but totally unidentifiable) ten year old, looking for something to do while visiting the Hospital, is somehow able to use the wifi to hack into the stats database and (inadvertently) make the official figures look so much better.

FXST01 FXST01 8:58 pm 10 Jun 13

I’m sure the staff won’t be using it.

LSWCHP LSWCHP 8:32 pm 10 Jun 13

incredulousandridiculous said :

For the record, this is the same Chief Minister who went on holiday with the data tampering bitch who is yet face criminal charges. And the same Chief Minister who presides over a healthcare system consistently ranked in the bottom two States and Territories for many measures of waiting times and responses.

Try explaining this wifi plan to the thousands of aged pensioners whose health only declines further as they age, largely due to insufficient medical treatment. But what would I know, Katy, I’m just an elitist university student who can’t possibly fathom the priority that free Internet represents. Forget nurses being paid adequately or more hospital beds.

I’ve spent several tedious periods in ED and other places with a sick wife and injured kids, and I would’ve appreciated free wifi to help pass the time away while waiting for things to happen. This facility will provide patients with a reassuring degree of connectivity, which is something people expect these days and I think it’s a good thing.

And you may be a uni student, but I suspect that you don’t know the difference between “elite” and “elitist”, so maybe some remedial English classes are in order. Whether that’s the case or not, I agree with thoughtpod. Calling a woman a “bitch” on a public forum isn’t a good look.

DontFidget DontFidget 8:13 pm 10 Jun 13

I am perplexed. The Media Release is for today, Monday June 11, 2013. But today is Monday June 10, 2013. Perhaps I am missing something or perhaps my calendar is playing evil games on me.

Nonetheless, I took mum to Calvary in November 2012; she had a fall and fractured her collarbone. (The irony is, she just had handrails installed for the front and back steps to her house to prevent such an occurrence.)

While waiting in the emergency department, mum was in quite a bit of pain, she started pacing the corridors. I happened to have my iPad with me, so I sat her down to see if I could find something on it to keep her (at least somewhat) distracted from the pain while we waited.

I was surprised to see we could access the hospital’s wi-fi. And well, as many would attest, having to go to hospital does tend to make one apprehensive, worried, disconcerted, etc, and that can really compound the issue – If the psychology is bad, the physiology will pay the price.

Since we had wi-fi available to us, it really did do a lot to alleviate her pain and her obvious concerns by having something different to focus on.

Consequently, this really did keep her nerves at bay during the interim of the wait (esp. for her x-ray results); she was able to access her emails, let others know how she was doing and keep informed with potential problems she might be facing (and at this point, information can really help with not feeling completely out of control).

Also, I have naked ADSL (mine comes with a land-line). So if anyone tries to ring me at home while I am connected to the hospital’s wi-fi, it will “redirect” to my iPad via SIP, so I can answer calls and keep friends and family in the loop with what is going on.

Okay, I know this thread was initially about TCH, even so, case in point.

=)

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