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William Paul Bellew gets his conviction downgraded to a slap on the wrist

johnboy 19 August 2010 52

The ABC informs us that William Paul Bellew, 54, a convicted enthusiast of Simpsons themed child pornography, has had his sentence of a year’s weekend detention downgraded to a six month suspended sentence and a 12 month good behaviour bond.

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colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 4:20 pm 23 Aug 10

Hells_Bells74 said :

Mr Lalor, the judge I (and others) thought needed a good root, he could’ve been the crankiest man that I’ve ever met!

Not that I have any comment for this case, I’m sure he did his job.

Intriguing – care to elaborate?

Hells_Bells74 Hells_Bells74 11:06 am 23 Aug 10

Mr Lalor, the judge I (and others) thought needed a good root, he could’ve been the crankiest man that I’ve ever met!

Not that I have any comment for this case, I’m sure he did his job.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 8:53 am 23 Aug 10

cleo said :

colourful sydney #47
racing identity

By that logic: who knows maybe you took the photos, you sicko!
Oh god who is the real sicko now????? WHO’S SINKING TO ABUSE NOW?

I going on what the judge has said, no we don’t need to be there!

Oh dear. Judging from your response you understand how stupid and offensive it is to make baseless allegations ie “Who knows, they could have been pictures of his own children, the sicko!” (do you see what I did there? I took your baseless allegation and spun it around to make a baseless allegation against you – clever hey?)

By the way, what exactly did the judge say? I assume that you can’t actually find any evidence that they were actual images of children which is why you are avoiding a direct question.

cleo cleo 9:37 pm 21 Aug 10

colourful sydney #47
racing identity

By that logic: who knows maybe you took the photos, you sicko!
Oh god who is the real sicko now????? WHO’S SINKING TO ABUSE NOW?

I going on what the judge has said, no we don’t need to be there!

Spideydog Spideydog 5:03 pm 21 Aug 10

I think regardless if they are “cartoon” figures or not, any person getting any sort of pleasure out of children in those types of images is sick just the same. Additionally, these could be stepping stone to the “real” thing. Something to think about.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 3:12 pm 21 Aug 10

cleo said :

Who knows, they could have been pictures of his own children, the sicko!

By that logic: who knows maybe you took the photos, you sicko!

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 3:01 pm 21 Aug 10

cleo said :

Colour Sydney
Racing Identity

Some people just don’t get it, and your one of them, as they say there are two kinds of stupid people, one that knows their stupid and one that doesn’t know it!

I take it from your well reasoned discouse quoted above that you can’t actually find any evidence that they were actual images of children, which is why you have to sink to abuse instead.

Anyway don’t let facts get in the way of your moral panic.

Skidbladnir Skidbladnir 1:35 pm 21 Aug 10

cleo said :

Who knows, they could have been pictures of his own children, the sicko!

Or maybe they were stick figures.
REGARDLESS, EVERYBODY MUST JOIN IN THE BASELESS MORAL OUTRAGE!

Tooks Tooks 1:10 pm 21 Aug 10

cleo said :

Tooks

I don’t feel it’a a waste of police time, and it would not have gone to court without evidence that couldn’t stand up in court for starters, there have been too many abused children, especially when they can’t stand up for themselves!
Who knows, they could have been pictures of his own children, the sicko!

I never said it was a waste of police time. I’m just not sure cartoons – no matter how graphic and vile they may be – should be classed in the same category as real life child abuse images. Then again, I don’t know the full facts and I haven’t seen (thankfully) the offending images.

cleo cleo 11:09 pm 20 Aug 10

Tooks

I don’t feel it’a a waste of police time, and it would not have gone to court without evidence that couldn’t stand up in court for starters, there have been too many abused children, especially when they can’t stand up for themselves!
Who knows, they could have been pictures of his own children, the sicko!

cleo cleo 11:03 pm 20 Aug 10

Colour Sydney
Racing Identity

Some people just don’t get it, and your one of them, as they say there are two kinds of stupid people, one that knows their stupid and one that doesn’t know it!

Spideydog Spideydog 7:02 pm 20 Aug 10

Aurelius said :

Yes Spideydog, the police are but one link in the chain. And yes, similar criticisms against the DPP for wasting resources on such an absurd case are equally valid.
But the DPP do not go out there finding people who have Simpsons cartoons, do they? The Police are wasting time and resources of not only themselves but everyone else in the chain with such ridiculous behaviour.
And for the record, I have been equally critical of the DPP on this forum in other matters. And as my comment that you quoted was in response to a comment BY A POLICE OFFICER, it’s not difficult to comprehend that I was critical of the Police’s role in the matter.
The Police are not above criticism, especially when wasting public resources.

Who said Police “went out of their way to find people” Most of the time matters are reported to Police by members of the public or other agencies. If a matter is reported to Police, they are obliged to investigate the matter, whether you think it is time wasting or frivolous.

Exactly how much knowledge do you have in this matter, or is your knowledge constrained to media reports ?

“The Police are not above criticism” – Yep your right, but neither are you, especially when they are doing what they are obliged to do.

Special G Special G 12:40 pm 20 Aug 10

Given that he had 10000+ images and only 120 something were classified as child porn it would suggest most of the images he had were fine. 120 something were over the line. Go to jail.

Tooks Tooks 12:10 pm 20 Aug 10

Aurelius said :

And for the record, I have been equally critical of the DPP on this forum in other matters. And as my comment that you quoted was in response to a comment BY A POLICE OFFICER, it’s not difficult to comprehend that I was critical of the Police’s role in the matter.
The Police are not above criticism, especially when wasting public resources.

Who was the police officer you were responding to?

Tooks Tooks 12:01 pm 20 Aug 10

Aurelius said :

Tooks said :

I would’ve thought the opposite was true. Such a harsh sentence for possessing child porn of this kind (drawings of cartoon characters) shows possession of any kind of child porn will be dealt with harshly.

Except, of course, it isn’t child porn, is it?
Whatever the legislation says, fictional imaginary characters committing sexual acts isn’t child porn.
Are the police happy Tooks they’ve saved a child in this case?
Even one that exists only in a cartoon show?
Child porn laws are designed to protect children.
There were never any allegations Bellew had any images of real child porn, was there? Just imaginary cartoon characters.
In my time, I’ve seen some rather dodgy pictures of various members of the Flintstones and the Rubbles Tooks. You gunna come arrest me?
Waste. of. police. time.

Feel better after your little tanty? Under legislation it is classed as child porn. It doesn’t matter what you and I think (FWIW, I don’t think it should be classed as child porn).

1) Are the police happy? I don’t know, go and ask them. I’m sure the ones who deal with child abuse on a daily basis could offer a unique perspective.

2) Never said I agreed with the laws as they stand. You and I would be in agreement there.

3) “Child porn laws are designed to protect children” – I agree 100%.

4) As for your last comment about Flintstones etc – Grow up.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 10:59 am 20 Aug 10

Pommy bastard said :

Mr Lalor said he found it hard to believe Bellew, a father of three, did not consider the ”vivid, degrading and disgraceful” images child pornography.

Now call me odd, but for the images to be described by the judge as; ”vivid, degrading and disgraceful” makes me think that they were more than just a jokey cartoon…

Agreed, however, I can recall back in my school days, very explicit, though crude in both senses of the word, drawings of teachers being sharing intimate moments with students and being invloved in *ahem* interspecies erotica. Most people would have viewed these as ”vivid, degrading and disgraceful” to say the least.

Aurelius Aurelius 10:47 am 20 Aug 10

Yes Spideydog, the police are but one link in the chain. And yes, similar criticisms against the DPP for wasting resources on such an absurd case are equally valid.
But the DPP do not go out there finding people who have Simpsons cartoons, do they? The Police are wasting time and resources of not only themselves but everyone else in the chain with such ridiculous behaviour.
And for the record, I have been equally critical of the DPP on this forum in other matters. And as my comment that you quoted was in response to a comment BY A POLICE OFFICER, it’s not difficult to comprehend that I was critical of the Police’s role in the matter.
The Police are not above criticism, especially when wasting public resources.

p1 p1 10:32 am 20 Aug 10

Skidbladnir said :

Three simple (single conjugated verb on a plural countable noun, possessive their instead of locator there, temporal locator then instead of comparative than) mistakes in the one sentence? I expected better from you, p1…

Me has know idea what youse am talking about.

Pommy bastard Pommy bastard 9:43 am 20 Aug 10

Mr Lalor said he found it hard to believe Bellew, a father of three, did not consider the ”vivid, degrading and disgraceful” images child pornography.

Now call me odd, but for the images to be described by the judge as; ”vivid, degrading and disgraceful” makes me think that they were more than just a jokey cartoon…

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 8:47 am 20 Aug 10

cleo said :

Mr Lalor said he found it hard to believe Bellew, a father of three, did not consider the ”vivid, degrading and disgraceful” images child pornography.

WTF are you people thick or what? They were images of children, which the pedophile had put I imagine heads of the Simpsons on their bodies and possibly other parts.

Can you show me some evidence that it was images of children? Or do you just ‘imagine’ this is the case?

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