Zed Seselja has held secret, closed door, private meetings with Tony Abbott.

This thread reminds me of the ‘pigs arse’ quote attributed to John Elliott.

Anyway said :

pepmeup said :

Rabbitohs_fan said :

I dont care that Zed met with Abbott. I care that he said he wouldn’t and now he has. Doesn’t say a lot in terms of trust.

Zed said he wouldn’t use Abbott in the campaign, he never said he would never talk to him again,ever

he also just said the election should be about local issues – he didnt say Abbott couldnt be here at all?!?!?! Im confused as to where this even came from :S

He did say that he would not be using Abbott in the election campaign. He is. He said something, he did the opposite. I suspect he said it off the cuff without considering it, it does raise the issue of credibility, but not in a massive way.

As Mysteryman points out above, he is no island when it comes to credibility problems.

Let it go, it is boring.

colourful sydney racing identity said :

quote from the Crimes: “Well, here I am,” Mr Abbott said.

“It’s great to be out with Zed, he’s doing a great job and I think is a serious chance to be our first coalition Chief Minister in the ACT since Gary Humphries in 2001.”

I withdraw my previous statements about it being a non-issue, I heard Seselja on the Ross Solly show, specifically state that Abbott would play no part in the campaign.

Meeting with him is one thing but using him in the campaign *when you have said you won’t* is another thing.

It was a stupid statement for Seselja to make at the time and has now presented the Liberals with a credibility problem.

Yep, you’re right. Stupid statement from Zed.

Still got a hell of a long way to go before any perceived credibility problem reaches the magnitude of the one firmly surrounding Fudge-the-numbers-Gallgher.

pepmeup said :

Rabbitohs_fan said :

I dont care that Zed met with Abbott. I care that he said he wouldn’t and now he has. Doesn’t say a lot in terms of trust.

Zed said he wouldn’t use Abbott in the campaign, he never said he would never talk to him again,ever

he also just said the election should be about local issues – he didnt say Abbott couldnt be here at all?!?!?! Im confused as to where this even came from :S

quote from the Crimes: “Well, here I am,” Mr Abbott said.

“It’s great to be out with Zed, he’s doing a great job and I think is a serious chance to be our first coalition Chief Minister in the ACT since Gary Humphries in 2001.”

I withdraw my previous statements about it being a non-issue, I heard Seselja on the Ross Solly show, specifically state that Abbott would play no part in the campaign.

Meeting with him is one thing but using him in the campaign *when you have said you won’t* is another thing.

It was a stupid statement for Seselja to make at the time and has now presented the Liberals with a credibility problem.

Masquara said :

pepmeup said :

Rabbitohs_fan said :

I dont care that Zed met with Abbott. I care that he said he wouldn’t and now he has. Doesn’t say a lot in terms of trust.

Zed said he wouldn’t use Abbott in the campaign, he never said he would never talk to him again,ever

That’s what I heard too. Zed said (sensibly, given the toxic federal arena) that he wouldn’t use Abbott to campaign with him. He didn’t say he wouldn’t take campaign advice from him. And I didn’t hear him say he wouldn’t talk to or meet with Abbott. Labor is sounding desperate!

http://m.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/abbott-runs-in-to-canberra-liberals-campaign-20121011-27efz.html

So how many words was a picture worth?

Masquara said :

Andrew Barr has been on the news claiming that rates won’t triple other than through the standard inflation rate, and that “the increase will be less than 10 per cent per annum”. By less than ten percent, let’s assume he’s allowing himself 9.9 per cent.

On that basis, my rates would grow by 300 per cent over 11 years, but my income at current APS certified agreement rates would grow by less than 50 per cent.

Yes, raters WILL triple, and the impact on my rates bill in terms of spending power is set to MORE THAN DOUBLE in real terms.

Easily enough to hit my hip-pocket nerve to the extent that Labor’s waffly social engineering takes a backseat to my personal financial self-interest.

Obvious Liberal is obvious.

‘a secret, closed door, private meeting’

Lol. As opposed to a ‘public, closed door private meeting’, or a secret, open door meeting, or a secret, closed door public meeting. Come on Elias, surely you could have got the word ‘conspire’ in there somewhere.

And it’s not too late to make dark mutterings in the press about Zed’s ‘problem with strong capable women’.

Politicians of all stripes are fond of saying that they have confidence in the ‘intelligence of the electorate’. I think the evidence is otherwise.

Would you believe The Crimes has actually put this garbage on today’s front page as the main story? Boy, they’re really going all out to try and get Katy re-elected, aren’t they?

Andrew Barr has been on the news claiming that rates won’t triple other than through the standard inflation rate, and that “the increase will be less than 10 per cent per annum”. By less than ten percent, let’s assume he’s allowing himself 9.9 per cent.

On that basis, my rates would grow by 300 per cent over 11 years, but my income at current APS certified agreement rates would grow by less than 50 per cent.

Yes, raters WILL triple, and the impact on my rates bill in terms of spending power is set to MORE THAN DOUBLE in real terms.

Easily enough to hit my hip-pocket nerve to the extent that Labor’s waffly social engineering takes a backseat to my personal financial self-interest.

Madam Cholet said :

Thumper said :

So technically the point is kind of mute really.

But whatever….

Did you mean ‘Moot’?

“I’d like to tell her that I love her but the point is probably moot”
– Rick Springfield 1981.

chewy14 said :

I though the Liberals stupid “triple your rates” slogan would be the low point of this campaign.

I stand corrected, this wins.

“Triple your rates” is very good.

It resonates with Canberrans, whose cost of living has soared while the government’s inefficient spending on crap we don’t need has soared commensurately.

Madam Cholet said :

Thumper said :

So technically the point is kind of mute really.

But whatever….

Did you mean ‘Moot’?

Thank you 🙂

Late night post.

Thumper said :

So technically the point is kind of mute really.

But whatever….

Did you mean ‘Moot’?

I though the Liberals stupid “triple your rates” slogan would be the low point of this campaign.

I stand corrected, this wins.

The title of this story should be “Dumb meets with dumber”.

Zed, Labor insists you open the door and come out of the closet.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

…Katy didn’t say she wasn’t going to ask Julia to get on her campaign trail. Zed, on the other hand, explicitly said that he wasn’t going to talk to Tony, ….

What is this? Eastenders?

You truly are pathetic if you think this is anything more significant than a windup.

SnapperJack said :

Tony will be PM in less than a year so …

A very brave prediction.

Abbott is sooooo not PM material it’s not funny. You’d have to be banking on a hell of a lot more ALP incompetence to help get Abbott over the line….

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

Should we all just ignore the fact that JULIA TALKED TO KATY YESTERDAY…..

No, because it’s exactly the point. Katy didn’t say she wasn’t going to ask Julia to get on her campaign trail. Zed, on the other hand, explicitly said that he wasn’t going to talk to Tony, because the focus should be on local issues. He said this as a thinly-veiled criticism of Katy. Which would make him a hypocrite, wouldn’t it?

If you’re going to go all southern Baptist crazy shouter, the least you could do is try to keep up.

Actually, Zed said “at this stage” or words to that effect, that he wouldn’t talk to Abbott.

And that was a few weeks ago I believe.

So technically the point is kind of mute really.

But whatever….