10 October 2012

Zed Seselja has held secret, closed door, private meetings with Tony Abbott.

10 October 2012 | Jazz

As the ACT election draws ever nearer we typically see all sorts of mud slinging back and forth between the major parties. Today, citynews brings us word that ACT Labor have accused The Canberra Liberals of holding “secret, closed door” meetings with Federal Opposition Leader Tony Abbott.

Apparently challenger to the throne Zed Seselja had previously indicated he wouldn’t be talking to Tony Abbott about the local campaign & Labor are furious he’s seemingly going back on his word… as if that never happens in politics.

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Antagonist2:47 pm 11 Oct 12

This thread reminds me of the ‘pigs arse’ quote attributed to John Elliott.

colourful sydney racing identity2:29 pm 11 Oct 12

Anyway said :

pepmeup said :

Rabbitohs_fan said :

I dont care that Zed met with Abbott. I care that he said he wouldn’t and now he has. Doesn’t say a lot in terms of trust.

Zed said he wouldn’t use Abbott in the campaign, he never said he would never talk to him again,ever

he also just said the election should be about local issues – he didnt say Abbott couldnt be here at all?!?!?! Im confused as to where this even came from :S

He did say that he would not be using Abbott in the election campaign. He is. He said something, he did the opposite. I suspect he said it off the cuff without considering it, it does raise the issue of credibility, but not in a massive way.

As Mysteryman points out above, he is no island when it comes to credibility problems.

Let it go, it is boring.

Mysteryman2:12 pm 11 Oct 12

colourful sydney racing identity said :

quote from the Crimes: “Well, here I am,” Mr Abbott said.

“It’s great to be out with Zed, he’s doing a great job and I think is a serious chance to be our first coalition Chief Minister in the ACT since Gary Humphries in 2001.”

I withdraw my previous statements about it being a non-issue, I heard Seselja on the Ross Solly show, specifically state that Abbott would play no part in the campaign.

Meeting with him is one thing but using him in the campaign *when you have said you won’t* is another thing.

It was a stupid statement for Seselja to make at the time and has now presented the Liberals with a credibility problem.

Yep, you’re right. Stupid statement from Zed.

Still got a hell of a long way to go before any perceived credibility problem reaches the magnitude of the one firmly surrounding Fudge-the-numbers-Gallgher.

Anyway1:57 pm 11 Oct 12

pepmeup said :

Rabbitohs_fan said :

I dont care that Zed met with Abbott. I care that he said he wouldn’t and now he has. Doesn’t say a lot in terms of trust.

Zed said he wouldn’t use Abbott in the campaign, he never said he would never talk to him again,ever

he also just said the election should be about local issues – he didnt say Abbott couldnt be here at all?!?!?! Im confused as to where this even came from :S

colourful sydney racing identity1:37 pm 11 Oct 12

quote from the Crimes: “Well, here I am,” Mr Abbott said.

“It’s great to be out with Zed, he’s doing a great job and I think is a serious chance to be our first coalition Chief Minister in the ACT since Gary Humphries in 2001.”

I withdraw my previous statements about it being a non-issue, I heard Seselja on the Ross Solly show, specifically state that Abbott would play no part in the campaign.

Meeting with him is one thing but using him in the campaign *when you have said you won’t* is another thing.

It was a stupid statement for Seselja to make at the time and has now presented the Liberals with a credibility problem.

Girt_Hindrance1:15 pm 11 Oct 12

Masquara said :

pepmeup said :

Rabbitohs_fan said :

I dont care that Zed met with Abbott. I care that he said he wouldn’t and now he has. Doesn’t say a lot in terms of trust.

Zed said he wouldn’t use Abbott in the campaign, he never said he would never talk to him again,ever

That’s what I heard too. Zed said (sensibly, given the toxic federal arena) that he wouldn’t use Abbott to campaign with him. He didn’t say he wouldn’t take campaign advice from him. And I didn’t hear him say he wouldn’t talk to or meet with Abbott. Labor is sounding desperate!

http://m.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/abbott-runs-in-to-canberra-liberals-campaign-20121011-27efz.html

So how many words was a picture worth?

colourful sydney racing identity1:15 pm 11 Oct 12

Masquara said :

Andrew Barr has been on the news claiming that rates won’t triple other than through the standard inflation rate, and that “the increase will be less than 10 per cent per annum”. By less than ten percent, let’s assume he’s allowing himself 9.9 per cent.

On that basis, my rates would grow by 300 per cent over 11 years, but my income at current APS certified agreement rates would grow by less than 50 per cent.

Yes, raters WILL triple, and the impact on my rates bill in terms of spending power is set to MORE THAN DOUBLE in real terms.

Easily enough to hit my hip-pocket nerve to the extent that Labor’s waffly social engineering takes a backseat to my personal financial self-interest.

Obvious Liberal is obvious.

justin heywood12:20 pm 11 Oct 12

‘a secret, closed door, private meeting’

Lol. As opposed to a ‘public, closed door private meeting’, or a secret, open door meeting, or a secret, closed door public meeting. Come on Elias, surely you could have got the word ‘conspire’ in there somewhere.

And it’s not too late to make dark mutterings in the press about Zed’s ‘problem with strong capable women’.

Politicians of all stripes are fond of saying that they have confidence in the ‘intelligence of the electorate’. I think the evidence is otherwise.

Little_Green_Bag12:19 pm 11 Oct 12

Would you believe The Crimes has actually put this garbage on today’s front page as the main story? Boy, they’re really going all out to try and get Katy re-elected, aren’t they?

Masquara12:18 pm 11 Oct 12

Andrew Barr has been on the news claiming that rates won’t triple other than through the standard inflation rate, and that “the increase will be less than 10 per cent per annum”. By less than ten percent, let’s assume he’s allowing himself 9.9 per cent.

On that basis, my rates would grow by 300 per cent over 11 years, but my income at current APS certified agreement rates would grow by less than 50 per cent.

Yes, raters WILL triple, and the impact on my rates bill in terms of spending power is set to MORE THAN DOUBLE in real terms.

Easily enough to hit my hip-pocket nerve to the extent that Labor’s waffly social engineering takes a backseat to my personal financial self-interest.

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