Revolve resolve

Nice one Coops……. Anything that saves me a dollar i’m all for. Revolve have, so thats the place for me.

Maybe your stuff WAS crap. remember, 1 mans trash is not necessaryly 1 mans treasure. Why should Revolve pay their hard earned money to take your crap to the tip. And as to someone not getting of the site, thats ACT Nowastes fault now. Too much red tape, don’t you read the papers? At least the stuff is going to good use now, instead of getting bulldozed into the landfill and costing you money. no waste by 2010 – bullshit!

The thing about ‘ACT NOWASTE’ directing everyone to dump it – that’s exactly my experience when I took stuff to Revolve in the past.

I’m going to guess Aussie Junk aren’t going to be set up for a while due to some people not vacating a certain site when they should have…

Hey, all of you negative no hopers!! Did anyone bother to check out the “NEW” Revolve site today?? I couldn’t even get a fxxxing park!! So many bloody people. Even their new drop-off area had cars lined up as far back as the street to the mrf at 2 o’clock. Obviously the Canberra public are happy that they are back in business. Espeacially as Aussie Junk are not even up and running there yet – and won’t be for some time by all accounts. If you have something to recycle at the moment, ACT NOWASTE are directing every thing to the landfill and charging to to dump it – good stuff or bad stuff. Yeah real sensible. Thank god Revolve HAVE opened up down the road. At least someone is being sensible and getting on with the job. Long live Revolve!

Yeah – I thought the whole point was to turn over stuff quickly in the name of recycling (and the whole ‘NOWASTE’ thing) rather than hoarding crap.

If revolve had put lower prices on things, they’d have turned over more stuff, and so been able to take on more stuff. I visited teh place a year or so back, and was amazed at the prices on things. Crazy, for broken, filthy crap. No wonder it sat there and they couldn’t take more stuff.

How DARE you compare onions to ogres. People like you give my onion relatives a bad rep.

Just to assist for those with thinner skins, I’d like to retract my earlier comment and suggest that, perhaps, if Revolve accept my microwave, they can use it to turn the Shrek-swamp into some kind of useful and dry land.

Or is that racist to Ogres? Ogres have feelings, too, and layers, just like parfaits. Or onions.

If the site was selected to be some historic remnants of the European settlement of Australia, I might have said they were going to nuke some of those artefacts. Would it then be racist against any people of that descent?

As a suporter of the Ngunnawal nation i find that comment very derogatory and rasist. How dare you say such a thing. People like you give us gubba’s a bad rep.

Yeah, perhaps. If I smash the door it it might be useful to someone who has a perfectly good microwave door.

Anyway, some people have good experiences, some people have bad, neither are ‘wrong’ experiences. I don’t care, I just want stuff that’s well priced, easy to find, a place that is willing to take stock that is better than their current hoardings rather than throwing away very, very good stuff, and isn’t too much of an effort to get to.

P.S. Salvos don’t really want stuff to do with old electronics, in case someone gets a nasty little shock from it and sues them. I’d be happy to give said microwave away to a Rioter for free, so, poor uni students, let me know with a comment somewhere.

Perhaps if you chain a broken bicycle to it and wrap it in chicken-wire Revolve will take it off your hands?

Nah, I like my garage, I don’t want to sell that.

huh??? maybe u should have a garage sale, or call the Salvos, if u think that it is so good!
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No i don’t work for Revolve. Just have never had a problem with them. Like i said they took most not all of my stuff and Aussi took none of it. I don’t know why.

Actually, speaking of taking stuff, does anyone want a microwave? I had it advertised at ANU, 5 students got back to me wanting it, then no-one turned up.

It’s still damned good.

I’d take it to revolve but they might use it to cook Aboriginal heritage items at their new site.

The truth king Arthur is this: You are clearly associated with Revolve, as you have used the advertised Revolve email address to sign up and login to this site.

Ellingly: As VY has mentioned, the secret for getting them to take your stuff is to dump it at their gates between 7:30 and 8:00AM before they open.

[insert comment about how we can’t handle the truth]

so…..U folks afraid of the TRUTH!!

Yeah, interesting, obviously my stuff was too good for Revolve ;). What’s the secret to getting them to take it?

So Joyce, do you work for Revolve as well?

(That’s the the official Revolve email contact, innit?)

Hmmm….
Rather transparent Mr “king Arthur | revolve@webone.com.au”

It seems to me that it’s all about location. not recycling for some people.I will drive that extra bit to go to Revolve as i agree with king Arther. Not alot at Aussi Junk.. Been there a few times with stuff for them, Turned away every time, Revolve took most of it. Saved me money at the tip.

Find alot of stufF?? where have u been shopping!! Aussie Junk don’t have anything for sale their yard is empty!! go on ebay if u want to find a lot of their stuff for sale.

You see the quality in the junk they have; I see all the useful stuff turned away, in return for that useful junk you see.

Don’t get me wrong, bought a lawnmower and a few other things from Revolve, got them going, still quite happy a few years later.

There is no inherent reason why Aussie Junk won’t be any different – in fact, if the Mitchell yard is anything to go by, much easier to find a lot of stuff, which makes it more useful for the community. Revolves ability to turn stuff away is one reason why I wouldn’t bothered driving further, away from where I would be going, just in case they want to take some of my items.

How funny. You see broken bikes, i see parts for the one i have at home. fix it don’t throw it. You see dangerous electrical goods, i see stock that students learning to be electricans buy and take to tec. There are many signs at Revolve that ask the public not to pull things apart, however people do.

Mine either. That and the fact that Revolve now has a BAD reputation for turning away useful, quality items because their site is full of broken bicycles, used toilets, scrap metal and outright _dangerous_ electrical goods that should’ve been put out to pasture long ago.

One guess is that Aussie Junk can go through stuff from the Mugga Lane area, and if people want to support Revolve, they take their stuff down the road and give it to Revolve.

Shall be interesting to see if community-mindedness of some people overcomes their natural Canberran laziness. Certainly won’t overcome mine.

Hmmm…so which organisation gets first dibs to rifle through the crap that gets dumped and then on-sell it? I’m guessing Aussie Junk will have the advantage in not having to lug the stuff 3KM down the road.

And Joyce:

“The temporary closure is to allow the territory to take possession of the site from Thiess Services after the expiry of their contract on June 30, 2007 and to put in place new contract arrangements,” the department said.

is probably a fair indication that the Govt owns the site.

The first battle is done, however i belive that the true war has just begun?

Found on the intertubes: Revolve to move to another location.

So, injunction failed, so they take up a site they were offered prior to being locked out. Evidently brinkmanship didn’t get them what they wanted.

By the way jono88 what makes you think the government owns the shed.

I can only say what i heard, has something to do with what they found at the new site.

Source? Sounds like complete bullsh¡t to me.

I heard a rumour that Revolve will be staying at the mugga site.

the Government CAN** put it up for tender.

Joyce the government cant put it up for tender! its there shed, not revolves so what are you talking about? Sure revolve can have a new site but it won’t be at the mugga lane landfill, Becasue someone else won the tender.

Can’t wait to see Revolve up and running again.

Looks like at the very least you *will* be waiting – at least until the service next goes out to tender.

I have been going to revolve for many years and have no complaints. I buy and donate. sometimes my things have been regected……. so what!!!! they do a great job. I have seen the staff cop hell because they can’t take some things. They have a job to do. People like Bushpig need to get over themselves. I don’t like the fact that the government can put a business to tender that does not belong to them. I thought the people of Canberra owned revolved! Can’t wait to see Revolve up and running again.

trading will not be back to normal by the weekend becasue Aussie Junk will be there. They won the contract fair and square.

On Saturday night, the ACT government locked revolve out illegally, claiming they hadn’t received court documents served on them on Friday. Cops were called in, and all is before the Supreme Court. Just more underhanded dealings by Chris Horsey and the ACT government – little mans syndrome they call it. Trading should be back to normal by the weekend.

revolve where told to be out by 30/6/07 thay didn’t move so the government is moving them out

revolve has closed down

What is Aussie Junk gonna sell DICKPIG, freshair??

aussiejunk is having a $1 sale at mugga lane on the 1/7/07 all welcome

I heard a rumour last night (unverified at this stage). Apperantly Revolve was seeking to sell the equipment and fittings from the schools closed down by our fearless leader and his goons.
But due to ongoing sniping between Revolve and the ACT Govt, the furniture etc that was no longer required was smashed and dumped.
Like I said, unconfirmed rumour but I’m sure the fair folk of the RiotAct can cast some light on it.

THE END

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HI ALL dose anyone no where revolve is moving to

jl;

what a wast of charitable money revolve is wasting neaded money’ on postage at 50 cent each letter i think revolve is going overboard with all of this revolve has lost the tender for the mugga lane land fill and will be moving on. thay sould be saving ther money to move to new premises

Dear nyssa76,
If you have received a letter from Revolve it is because either yourself and your hubby signed the petition against the tender which was located only on the counters at Revolve. Perhaps someone else used your name and address.
The staff and the Management worked many hours to fold letters and petitions, and address them, it would not be our intention to waste our time sending letters at 50 cents each to people who are not supporters.
I can assure you that no other source of addresses was used in the process. If you received two letters it is because your names and address were on the petition, which we thank you for.
We can understand that you may have put your name on the petition and now wish to withdraw it. If so please contact the Revolve office or leave your contact details at the counter and I will ensure you name is removed from the Supporters List.

Dear nyssa76,
If you have received a letter from Revolve it is because either yourself and your hubby signed the petition against the tender which was located only on the counters at Revolve. Perhaps someone else used your name and address.
The staff and the Management worked many hours to fold letters and petitions, and address them, it would not be our intention to waste our time sending letters at 50 cents each to people who are not supporters.
I can assure you that no other source of addresses was used in the process. If you received two letters it is because your names and address were on the petition, which we thank you for.
We can understand that you may have put your name on the petition and now wish to withdraw it. If so please contact the Revolve office or leave your contact details at the counter and I will ensure you name is removed from the Supporters List.

revolve will be gone on 1/5/07 for good. that will be good to get them out.and let the new contracter in.

Ok, so today I received not 1 but 2 letters (one was addressed to hubby) from Revolve.

They even spelt my surname wrong – which is one of the most common in Australia (idiots).

Inside is a letter thanking me (pre-empted) for signing the staff petition against the tendering decision.

They must have used the electoral roll as my phone is in my name only.

What a waste of time, and paper, to achieve NOTHING.

I promptly put them in the bin. Now had this come out BEFORE the tendering decision, I may have given it a little thought. However, it didn’t so it now lines my bin.

Following VP’s comments, and along similar lines, an item almost buried on page 11 of yesterdays CT pointed out that 2 very lucrative contracts, worth a total of $80m, had very recently been renewed without the inconvenience of calling tenders.

This is OUR money these wretches are so blithly spending. How do we know we cannot get better value from other tenderers?

The Stanhope slime are using their majority in the same way as the little turd up on the Hill.

Hopefully the Auditor General and/or Ombudsman will pick up on this transgression of process, and apply some heat to the soles of the feet of these arogant clowns.

I know very little about Resolve, but thought the process for tendering looked a bit strange. The place was not about a single cash bottom line, but mixed in some concepts like encouraging recycling and providing employment experience. Measuring the quantifiables against the rest was never going to be easy.

I know the ACT Ombudsman has sometimes looked at tendering exercises. Maybe this should be considered.

Get a room you two.

and you did not sack me.i honourably discharged my self. i dont like geting the blame for your bad dowings.

no your takings went up, when you stoped taxing the till.you say the staff are taking all of my money.
butt it”s you

Oink Oink BUSHPIG – Now I realise who you are – indeed you are ex staff -a dishonourably discharged worker. Your lack of language skills and dreadful spelling are a dead giveaway.
Folks when BUSHPIG was sacked by Revolve and we changed the security systems the takings went up by an enormous amount each month.
Please note all readers, as I had said in earlier postings, you will find that the vast majority of complaints about Revolve are from either competitors or disgruntled staff.
BUSHPIG, please give the readers your true identity – they may want to walk on the other side of the street and keep their hands firmly on their wallets.

and kip yur spiling veri distant.

gerryg. i do no what is going on, as i worked for revolve on and off for the last 5 years. so i do know what goes on you sead that i work for aussiejunk butt i dont i could stil be working for you keep your freinds close and your enemies closer

Ah! BUSHPIG such clarity! BUSHPIG tries constantly to defame Revolve and distort the story surrounding the business because like some many others who complain about the business all the time, he has a vested interest.
Let us calarify a few of these points. Revolve does sell on ebay. Our job is to get the best price for goods given to us so that we can create more employment opportunities. We have selected one of the best people in the industry to sell on ebay for us because of their knowledge of a very broad range of goods in antiques and bric a brac. The arrangement is on a profit share basis and is known about and fully supported by all members of the Board.
On the matter of all the staff and management of Revolve being crooks. We have our books audited every year by a registered team of accounts. If you deal with Revolve sales staff you will receive a receipt for your purchase. If you don’t get a receipt, then you are not at the Revolve site at Mugga. Most of the competition in the field don’t issue receipts.
One of Revolves competitors was so disgusted by these rumours and innuendo that they had the Australian Taxation Office come to our offices and go right through every business record we had.
We came through all of that with flying colours, with not a single complaint.
We have the records to prove our integrity and we take great pride in the fact that our staff and our Management give so much to the Canberra community.
I would like to challenge any individual who thinks that the staff and management of Revolve are crooks to come out from behind the name they use on this site and meet me at the front counter of Revolve and say it in public – bring the media with you if you are so confident.

YOU GOT THE ASS FULL STOP. AND YOU GOT IT GOOD.
SO SELL THAT????
PS
HAVE GOOD EASTER.

It has been my experience that the complaints against the way that Revolve is run come from people who either operate the same sort of business, or buy from Revolve and want to on-sell goods themselves. No matter what business you are in there is always someone who can do it better. By the way BUSHPIG we didn’t get the ASS – if we had got an ASS I dare say we could have sold it!.
Heaven help us – another semi-literate Steptoe!

How come this mafia fight doesn’t have any guns involved ?

Gubmint Mafia vs Revolve Mafia. Is any side less crooked than the other ?

Yes Chief Minister Stanhope has said that he cannot interfere in the tender process thus avoiding the real issue which is: Why did Yes Minister Hargreaves instruct Nowaste to sell Revolve? Even though Yes Chief Minister Stanhope will not answer that question we know from the famous BBC documentary about public administration that Nowaste runs Yes Minister Hargreaves and they do whatever they like regardless of the social cost to the people of the ACT. This Yes Minister mob will not interfere with the public service even when it tries to burn down the city!

watermelon rose does have an eclectic range of goods.

curious they dont allow pickup in the act.

i wonder if they are a revolve employee or revolve themselves.

revolve have being going backwards for years. you just dont fill up a huge shed full of shit and expect sell it.
thay have being selling all the good items on ebay for two and half years. but thay say we dont sell on ebay have a look for your self ther user name is WATERMELON_ROSE.
if thay are so good why did thay get the ASS.
because the management are all CROOKS

Sack the bureaucrats…

The good ones are gone or about to go anyway, so no nett loss. The few remaining good ones are said to be hiding their ability to do anything for fear of being targeted. It must be a bit like being a nobel prize winner in CSIRO!

The last three comments are correct. Revolve complained long and hard about the Government’s right to force it to tender in the first place. We are a community owned business, recognised by the Federal Government as a Charity. Any profits made by the business are turned back into jobs. Since its inception in 1988, Revolve has put at least $1 million a year back into the local economy. Before the north side of the business was given to Aussie Junk, it used to employ up to 34 local people – all of the jobs on the north side were lost to Revolve and the community with the handover to Aussie Junk – The bureaucracy said that we couldn’t have the north side of the business because they didn’t want a monopoly in the business!! What are they trying to do now? Give it all to Aussie Junk. Isn’t that a monopoly!! The hatred for Revolve among the bureaucrats goes back to the start of the business as a Federal Government Employment project in 1988. When the original Board started the business it developed the idea with local politicians not through the bureaucrats. Their nose has been out of joint every since. You can trace their obstructive behaviour over the years through many activates. Despite its National and International success it has never been actively promoted in government programs – except of course to pick up the kudos for anything good the business did – The Revolve business, like all others, can be done better. Revolve has been constantly trying to expand its business but it’s difficult to develop when you are constantly obstructed. People often complain that they have tried to drop things off but they have been rejected. This happens because the amount of furniture etc dumped by the ACT Community increases every year, but the space provided for recycling at Revolve stays the same. The Australia Institute estimated in a report last year that every person in the ACT spends more than $1400 per year on material which goes straight to landfill without use. How can any business cope with that extraordinary and bizarre level of consumption without expanding recycling facilities?
The tender process was the last in a long series of steps to take Revolve away from the Canberra community – the question is will the Canberra community let another of its assets be given away?

Put not your trust in princes.

The situation is unusual though, in that Revolve actually thought of, then started up the business.

They then operated it under some sort of agreement with the govt – surely it wasn’t just verbal agreement – there must have been some sort of agreed terms of operation.

Then, recently, the govt announces that the operation is such a success that it will now be put out to commercial tender.

You can see why Revolve are annoyed.

i was thinking about this yesterday afternoon while evaluating some tenders for my employer. one thing occurred to me – is revolves fate simply because they didnt meet the requirements of the tender process. there are many hoops to jump, any of which can bring about instant removal from the process if not completed correctly.

ive noticed that it is often very small business or one man shows which screw up this process, larger companies and multinationals have entire divisions to ensure tenders and contracts are administratively perfect.

if revolve is a not for profit, run by dogooders, staffed by the disabled – well…

i think aussie junk will be doing a bulky waste pick up’ that is a good thing for canberra.

dont we all thay were good pickings but ther gone for good

Bring back public scavenging at the tip face!
I miss the good old days….

I’ve found that streetside hard rubbish recycling is self-organising – in my experience you can get rid of pretty much anything by leaving it on the nature strip in the (student-infested) inner north.

I notice the govt has quietly dropped the ‘2010’ bit off their ‘No waste’ slogan . . . and I also notice we STILL don’t have a kerbside hard rubbish collection here in the ACT. I reckon the tender should go to whichever mob wants to do the kerbside collection. 2nd Hand Sunday is pathetic.

Nah guys it’s ‘artistic genius’.

That boy needs therapy.

crazy as a coconut

It’s a treat to see someone so mad they argue with themselves in the one post.

It would be good to see the stanhope government introduce a deposit scheme that covers all plastic, glass, and paperwaste.

Somthing with reverse vending machines, something that pays for itself, and if it employs more people all the better, Gotta laugh and them libs in oppostion, almost as funny as the Martin Labour government, shoulder to shoulder with the Northern Land Council, now in power argueing over sea rights, how quickly things can move.

I can’t wait for the next election, if Stanhope can set the pace for labour on green issues, including this florescent light bulb issue, and a national deposit scheme goes ahead, I might get to see my dream come true, No Liberals in power.

Anyone of a conservative persuasion that gets up in public and calls themselves liberal is pathetic, to be copying the greens is just lazy, besides, I want a party that will do it, thats why I vote green, Bobs getting old, Best I can hope for is to see him elected president of the senate, that would be as good as the next 10 years of politics could get for me I reckon.

Why waste Bobs time.

Besides the Australian electorate isn’t that politically savy or sensible enough to vote in its own best interest.

Great to see them all over the floor, where I would expect the loudest most obnoxious drunks.

Double the doll!

Revolve was the first Public Company to do this in an organised way. we all know that it has been going on for decades. Remember the good old days of a free for all on the tip face!

We also now have a monopoly on our tips. This was the very Reason revolve didn’t Get The tender for the tranfer station in mitchell when it was called for, the government didn’t want Revolve to hold both.

Revolve was not the first org or business to recycle stuff from the tip. In Sydney on the Northern Beaches, and old tip-wench called Mary used to run a legal warehouse business of scavenged junk from the Kimbriki Rd Tip at Ingleside. She did this all through the 70’s and 80’s (and probably still does). Part of her biz was to employ others – similar to the Revolve model.

Revolve are too precious about things like their history even though they once provided a great service…but perhaps their time has come. And that lady on 666 this morning sounded like a fruit-loop; did Revolve no favours at all.

Just because a particular group of people have been doing something does not mean that they can claim to have a god given right to continue to do the same thing ad-infinitum..

People are speculating about tender responses they haven’t even seen… maybe the winning tender actually offered the best outcomes… who knows if the value of the contract is worth more than $50,000 it will turn up on http://www.basis.act.gov.au for scrutiny eventually.

Perhaps the Gubmint should allow 2 operators at each site. There is plenty of space.

I assume the most valuable part of the contract is the first (and only) right to whatever people throw out.

Allow 2 operators, and each gets equal time to scavange. Make it a rolling time period, say 2 days each.

That way, no operator gets the benefit of a particular day(s) of the week when better stuff traditionally turns up.

So what? It’s all rubbish.

I found the opposite. I liked the days when i could wander in to Belconnen Revolve and find that odd piece of small junk, like a half tap fitting, or a screen door handle. The replacement at Mitchell is nothing like that, and we have pretty well stopped bothering to even look. For the renovation phase of life, Revolve Belconnen was great.

we are making a tonne of assumptions.

what were the terms they have been operating under ?

and what do we as a community really want ? if we want junk recycled then i think aussie junk do a good job. honestly, they are better than revolve from a consumer perspective.

That is the issue. Love them or hate them, Revolve are expected to close the gate one day and Aussie junk open it the next.Sounds like easy money to me!

So where is the compensation (for goodwill) then? It seems like an unfair process to me.

Revolve as I understand it were (untill friday) sub-contracted to Thiess. who in turn were contracted to the government.

I think the issue is that ‘Revolve’ has pretty much become a generic term for a recycling facility and drop off center There are hundreds of them with that name popping up all over the world.

Revolve was the First Compnay in the world to do this so therefore have made it acceptable and even expected amongst the community. Anyone else coming In already has a customer base and really has none of the hard work to do

And what terms were revolve operating under, seeing as they had not had to tender in the past?

Tenders on existing operations seem to be designed to make people offer to do what they are already doing, for less profit.

The question is whether it should have gone out to tender in the first place, and whether Revolve could have ever competed as a not-for-profit organisation. Were the terms of the tender process such that Revolve couldn’t have met them? Does anyone know?

Well it seems to me that we have the ‘open, transparent and justified decision’, in the form of the tender process. Now thats not to say that tender processes always result in the best outcome for everyone. Of course they cannot.

I’d be very interested to know if Revolve even submitted a tender. The lady from Revolve, speaking on 666 just before nine this morning, intimated that they didn’t.