ABC News story here and Canberra Times story here.
The Canberra Business Club, a former Liberal Party fundraising group run by Jim Murphy, will support ACT election candidates Norvan Vogt and Val Jeffery from the Community Alliance Party, and Mark Parton (running as an independent). CBC says they’ll be doing TV advertising campaigns for these candidates. Norvan Vogt is running for CAP in Molonglo, Val Jeffery is running in Brindabella, and Mark Parton in Ginninderra.
Looks like this will be an interesting election campaign.
[ED - Jakez also posted on this story, he added the following comment]
- I never listened to him but I know there are quite a number of RiotACT members who are fans. Can anyone give any clues as to his general ideological/philosophical outlook?
Also note that Jim Murhpy and the CBC are backing his campaign, so I’d just like to take this moment to send a big ‘I told you so’ to the Kate Carnell rumour believers.
what are mark’s policies?
is he able to use simcity at all?
he would be voted for in tuggeralong, my bogan mates and i were religious listeners. We now listen to 2CA…
Just makes you want to ask, what is in it for the Canberra Business Community? He is quoted in the Canberra Times as saying wants to be the voice of reason – what for the people of Canberra or for business issues?
Sure sucks to be in the Liberal Party right now.
Things are almost going back to the early, very silly days of self government.
Thumper said :
so where is the party party or the we don’t want local government party?
I hope these minority candidates, if elected, just use a little common sense when it comes to policies and direction rather than being surrounded by ‘advisers’ and ‘consultants’ and losing touch with reality like most of the present incumbents.
always wondered what the party who didn’t want local government would do if they got in??
revert to anarchy?
peterh said :
All things considered, Somalia is doing quite well in what amounts to an anarchic society.
jakez said :
I was thinking more about the 10 billion dollar note out of zimbabwe. now there is an economy crash…
er, the “no self gov’t party” and “abolish self gov’t party” did get candidates in, from memory. Craig Duby, author of the DubyDome, was one of them. I think Stephenson was another?
peterh said :
Surrender to Queanbeyan?
Primal said :
that’d fix the extradition probs from nsw to act & vice versa…
Even with this Parton fella, I still think the Stefaniak departure’s sunk the Liberal chances in Ginninderra, and therefore across the Territory. Surely Big Bill knew this, so he musta been pretty browned with Zed’s mob to have walked when he did.
Thumper, and the rest of the Riot crew
I can guarantee each of you that the Community Alliance is committed to strong stable ACT government, not in slinging cheap shots from the side lines or holding the government to ransom. When in office each of us will do our best to promote stability and good governance.
Also, by the end of the week we have 31 policies up on our website; we have been working hard to have these developed before Sept 12. More detail on each of these polices will unveiled at our various policy launches during the Campaign proper (Sept 12 – Oct 18).
It is not local government (such as in the NSW guise) that we are after, but a hybrid between a state government and a local council. In the past 4 years the upkeep of our city has been sacrificed for some bizarre ALP social experiment and it has to stop. The roads have potholes everywhere, the footpaths are dirty and our services have not working. Canberra is the National Capital of Australia and should look like it, I love Canberra and I want to get the basics right.
Cheers
Norvan Vogt
Lead candidate for Molonglo
Community Alliance Party
peterh said :
Well Sex Pistols aside, that’s the problem with the word anarchy. Zimbabwe is in chaos because of a brutal and incompetent Government inflating the money supply.
NOT THAT I’M AN ANARCHIST!!!
With this support they might actually be a challenge to the Greens for the minority vote.
Norvan.Vogt said :
Hmm, a worrying choice of words.
Aurelius said :
I still maintain that even with Big Bill gone, I just cannot see the Liberals not being able to reach 2 quotas. Let’s be honest it’s 33.3% of first preferences and let’s not forget that quota will drop as votes start to exhaust.
Then again I’m very heavily invested in the Libs getting 2 what with my ‘I’ll literally eat my hat’ pledge.
I can guarantee each of you that the Community Alliance is committed to strong stable ACT government
I don’t think anyone doubts that.
I can however see CAP and Libs sharing a percentage of the votes and fighting it out whilst Stanhope simply strolls over the line again.
And frankly, I don’t think I’ve been that critical of CAP at any time.
“some bizarre ALP social experiment”
What’s that mean?
Aurelius said :
we are all guinea pigs…
It probably belongs on the rumour thread.
; )
I looked for clarification on Norvan’s party’s website, and was dismayed at it. It’s all babble. Nothing of substance at all.
Norvan.Vogt said :
Services have not been working?
Services are not working?
Services playing, not working?
I’m stumped …
L
Speaking of rumours, someone must have something juicy about ACT politics?
I think they are making a vague suggestion that society should be allowed to operate without heavy handed Government intervention while not actually pledging that they won’t/not actually outlining which programs are legitimate and which are illegitimate.
Dirty footpaths are apparently part of the “ALP social experiment” I presume?
Seems like Norvan and his team are on another planet.
Aurelius said :
It means he couldn’t come with a credible line to denigrate the ALP, so he put in something that sounded nice and scary. I call FUD.
L
On lack of services, I will get out with my camera and take a picture of the 2008 Memorial Pothol sometime this weekend.
Do you have a favourite pothole that you’re tired of dodging?
Skids,
Queanbeyan and Bradiwood.
S4anta said :
LOL!
but don’t you mean braidwood??
jakez: In answer to the question in your article, he’s certainly no libertarian. More like an old fashioned “young people are the devil” Tory with a strong Laura Norder bent.
caf said :
…bugger.
Interesting that the Canberra Business Club (Jim Murphy et al) is contributing funds to the CAP and Jim Murphy (with his own money) is contributing funding to the ACT liberals.
Looks like Jim is looking for influence in both parties.
I’ve been on the left of politics most of my life but with the recent poor performance of the ACT Labor party I’ve actually been motivated enough to start looking elsewhere. However, before the rest start cheering I’m not seeing anything better with any other party.
I was looking at the CAP since Val Jefferies is running in my area but Jim Murphy’s involvement leaves me suspicious.
I guess it will probably come down to the standard Aussie voting tradition. Who do I hate the least.
smee said :
I will be voting based on the usual – what are their policies, the WIFM factor (what’s in it for me) and do i know any of the candidates personally or professionally?
makes sense for me to vote for someone that I have met / understand, if their beliefs are similar to mine.
and Jim Murphy (with his own money) is contributing funding to the ACT liberals
I was under the impression that Murphy was no longer funding the Libs/ can anyone confirm that?
Thumper said :
That is correct Thumper.
Smee: The rumours section of Crikey is not a credible source. The rumours section of Crikey quoted on RiotACT is MOST DEFINITELY not a credible source.
Jakez,
I thought by virtue of the fact it was on RiotACT, it is credible?
Aurelius
Skidbladnir – Gilmore Primary, right where you turn into the car park – three potholes in a row! This school is a electoral voting location for the upcoming ACT election, and
I love that the potholes will silently bear witness on that day to the standard of the ACT Govt’s services.
miz said :
*hehe*
Who wants to bet they will mysteriously be repaired in the next six weeks or so?
I love the Triffid breeding ground that is Commonwealth Avenue bridge. Surely the Gov can afford a couple of bucks worth of Roundup.
Do you have a favourite pothole that you’re tired of dodging? – William Hovell Drive, just past the Coppins Crossing lights heading West – right on the bend as you are accelerating downhill in that lovely 80 limited zone which should be 110.
From CAP website today: “The Community Alliance candidates accepted CBC’s support on the basis that there could be ‘no strings attached’ in line with the party’s underlying philosophy, according to Mr Hingee.”
Yeah, right. And pigs might fly.
Norvan.Vogt said :
Er, don’t you mean, ‘IF’ you get elected to office? You sound a tad arrogant already.
Norvan.Vogt said :
Wow, 31 policies up on your website! Should I be more impressed if you had a gazillion policies on your site, or if you had only one really, really good one?
Norvan.Vogt said :
I drove from Tuggers to Belco twice today and didn’t fall into any potholes – in fact I can’t even remember seeing one, so please let me know just where the “potholes are everywhere”. I’d like to take the family out tomorrow for a look. I also look forward to seeing, “when” you get into office, the CAP hiring people to make sure all our paths are scrubbed twice daily and the hiring a squad of crack pothole fillers to work round the clock! I’m also writing to Stanhope right away to tell him to get his finger out as our waters too wet and the mountains too low!
BTW: what does a national capital look like? I’ve been to many capital cities around the world in 1st, 2nd and 3rd world countries and I’m yet to see any typcal plan or standard. Perhaps you can forward me your copy of “Planning Capital Cities of the World for Dummies”.
lead candidate for molonglo, snigger snigger; more like only candidate for molonglo
Oh come on tom tom, there is more to life than sticking up for the ALP.
Seriously mate, you are overdoing it. Seriously, you are really starting to sound like a tool.
spoonbill said :
Indeed. Furthermore, doe’s being a “voice of reason” extend to having a policy on correct use of apostrophe’s? Whoever wrote his blurb on the official website need’s to proof read before publishing: http://markparton.com/
thumper; i could unload on this bloke, i could have unloaded on the kate carnell thread, but i’ve chosen not to.
still i dont see how pointing out that norvan is the only CAP candidiate for molonglo is sticking up for the ALP; but you know, actually reading my comments might be a little beyond you. tool.
Unload man. Frankly I have doubts about CAP as well.
And I have doubts about Libs and ALP.
Feel free. Post away…
thumper; i dont like launching into smears off the back of rumours i hear because it looks like i lack confidence in my sides ability to win on their merits. some time after the election you can buy me a pint and i’ll let you in on them then.